Don't know if anybody else caught this but as I was reading the CL a strange thing kellenberger said caught my attention. In his article he says that with Miles making 4.3 mil a year is not the kind of money for LSU to go to the music city and Texas bowl as they did the last two seasons. Hmm, isn't Mullen making 4.2 mil a year? But it's ok for us to go to these bowls because hey, we just keep on going to bowls every year.
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Honestly, they are all over paid. But to be fair he is the lowest paid coach in the SEC west and has constantly out preformed that ranking.
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Catching that would have required reading the CL. So no, I did not catch that.
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//I almost subscribed, maybe Kellenberger is happy with that.
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//I almost subscribed, maybe Kellenberger is happy with that.
In context of what he means to the bottom dollar of Bama's budget. Probably. In the real world and appropriate priorities of where that type of money should go, they are all vastly over paid. However, that is also what makes capitalism great.
What are the salaries of the entire staff?
I believe we are in the ballpark of top programs for HC pay, but way behind in assistant pay. Kinda like putting cheap tires on a corvette, you're not gonna get the results you want.
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Couldn't that be an indirect stab at MSU? If I can believe what I see posted here, he is wont to do such things.
Accurate. Did you know the U of Alabama is growing so fast they cut the ribbon on a new building every 62 days.
That's not a result of their philosophy professors' ability to communicate the subtleties of Hegel and Kant.
Fastest-growing student population in the country. Almost doubled since 2000.
http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/news/2015/09/28/university-of-alabama-has-the-fastest-growing.html
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Our campus has changed a lot since I started in 2000, but it pales in comparison to the changes they have gone through since my wife enrolled at Alabama in 2000. Saban has truly been one of their best investments.
The season isn't over, check with me in November. But as I have said before, MSU is a program that is going to have rebuilding/transition years. There is no avoiding it. So coming off 19 wins in two years, losing the best player in school history and three juniors who would be big time contributors to this team early, I don't see how people had hope that somehow we could be better than last year.
Sherlock Einstein. He's gotta be a new addition to the SixPack Speak lexicon.
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Considering that the year before he arrived our budget was around $30MIL and if you deduct the SEC money we are getting now, we have an increase of a conservative $20MIL per year now more than when he arrived, he has help add a lot of money to the budget. Including stadium expansion to help generate that extra income. During his time here our athletic department has had some of the biggest increases in budget of any university in the country and one of the few operating in the black.
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How many coaches have their been NOT to have a transition year that brings their win totals back to the schools historic average? The list will be small I know that. Tom Osborn, Urban Myer, Miles at LSU but at Oklahoma State his last year he only won 7, Spurrier didn't at Florida but did at USCe, Bear had a couple of 6 win seasons back to back after he had been at Bama several years and won a national title.
I think rational Bulldog fans understand rebuilding/transition years. But even in a rebuild/transition year we shouldn't be losing to South Alabama or struggling with UMASS. With the schedule we have this year, a rebuild year should have us dominating both South Alabama and UMASS and winning at least 6 games. We can still get to 6 games but it will be tough. If we continue to play, the way we've played for most of the year, we might win 3 more games. In year 8 under Mullen, a rebuilding year, we shouldn't have to sweat 6 wins.
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They entered a growth period long before St. Nicholas rolled into town. It hasn't been THAT long ago that Auburn was the largest institution in the state. That grated on them, so they decided to grow and grow and grow. That comes with a cost. Let's just say they are not the most selective university out there. Using that playbook, lots of institutions could grow rapidly. Has Saban helped? I'm sure he's had some impact, but to give him more than a sliver of credit for the expansion of the U of A is still almost giving him too much.
I was talking about the 3 juniors. I realize it would have been a hell of a feat to replace Dak. But you know, we all know, Dan should have recruited better. That's our main issue. I don't want to knock the players that are here working their tails off, but better
players, better program.
players, better program.
And with all that taken into account, if State can make a 23 yard field goal, they're 3-1 and none of this is happening.
If you as a MSU fan can't accept there are going to be some rebuilding years, you're gonna have a bad time. State will never just reload.
If you as a MSU fan can't accept there are going to be some rebuilding years, you're gonna have a bad time. State will never just reload.
How many times are people going to repeat this as fact -- without going looking for the actual answers and posting them? It's a simple search -- 3 clicks away.
As of last season -- we were #21 nationally in assistant coach salary pool. Well above our ranking in the mid 30s in total athletics dept income. Outside of the SEC Nebraska, Oregon, Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas, UCLA, Ohio State, Michigan, FSU, and Clemson outpay us for assistants right now, today. We are ~ ponying up to keep one elite assistant away from those first 4. 6 non-SEC teams in the entire country significantly outpay us for assistants.
It's hardly the situation it was a few years ago with our assistant pool. We are where we can afford to be and where we need to be right now in regards to that. Maybe people are just regurgitating same issues we(me included) trumpeted from the rooftops in 2013. But it's time to move to something else -- those issues have been addressed.
I think most people would be more willing to forgive the USA loss if there were a couple more "shelf life" wins for Mullen. This has obviously been covered ad nauseum, but even the 2014 LSU/TAMU/Auburn run proved to be a little less impressive by December of that year. Basically it boils down to Alabama and LSU, who we've historically never had much success against. But Mullen is about to be 1-15 against the two of them. And his perfect record against teams we were supposed to beat finally caught up with hiim.
What Mullen has done, to his credit and his detriment, is raise the floor for State fans. Rebuilding used to mean 3-8. Now it means for most people 6-6 or 7-5.
What Mullen has done, to his credit and his detriment, is raise the floor for State fans. Rebuilding used to mean 3-8. Now it means for most people 6-6 or 7-5.
Not him but against this schedule 6 should be the minimum. 3 cupcakes (already lost one of these), 2 weak East teams and one of either BYU (not sure if they are good or bad yet) and the next to worst West team (assuming we are the worst).
Mullen has lost the "never lose a bad one" with USA. The bowl streak is probably over. And 8 years in we still don't have a memorable upset.
What's worse? LSU & Auburn are BOTH down. Ole Miss is headed for a downturn. Are we taking advantage? Of course not. We lost our AD and we're in the first of two (or three, please not three) lame duck seasons.
Our coach got complacent and we're paying the price for it through 2017 at least.
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