KB visits Auburn this weekend. Malzahn is on the hot seat, desperate, and must win next year at all costs.
That combo doesn’t bode well for us with KB.
That combo doesn’t bode well for us with KB.
Kelly Bryant
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Kelly Bryant can go somewhere and have success, but I don't think he has the legs to do what Mahazan needs his QB to do for success. Could make for good watching next fall though.
If this young man has parents/guidance wise enough to see through desperate ******** and genuinely have his long term interests at heart, we will still be in consideration.
If he goes, he goes. If not, KT and Kylin will lead us just fine running the Mullen/Moorhead hybrid offense. I know Joe wants a more developed passing QB, but even if we got McSorley to transfer he would still have receivers who struggle to get open and catch the ball. Until we get those, I think our offense would be better suited for KT and Kylin to pound the rock.
I still don't see why it matters. He wasn't a world beater at Clemson. I mean I guess if you're looking for a guy to help us get from a 5-6 win team to a 7-8 win team, fine. I figure Thompson is good enough to do that.
We aren't challenging for the West again until 2021.
We aren't challenging for the West again until 2021.
I'd much rather play Auburn with Bryant at QB, than Stidham. Stidham is an NFL-level passer, which always wins out in the end. And their OL will be a year older.
I would advise him to go where he is most likely to be the Game 1 starter. 2019 is his last year of eligibility. I'm not sure he can beat out KT. Missouri might be a good fit with Lock graduating.
Couldn't disagree more, Bodd. Experience counts. Completion percentage is 67 per cent. I'm not a huge fan of qb transfers for several resons, but to get him in the midst of all the attention he's receiving says a lot about the program.
Why is everyone so sure that Auburn (see boosters) would put out their usual effort to get Bryant? The big names want Gus gone. Even if they think Bryant has all the talent in the world and is THE ANSWER for next year and would make their team better...why go all out for a one-year bandaid that might make it that much harder to fire the coach that you see as a deterrent to future long term success?
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I don’t see Auburn being seriously considered unless Stidham decides to leave. That’s all very up in the air right now. A 2-year starter still sticking around is a definite deal breaker for any grad transfer’s potential destination. He may or may not decide that by December 4th....which is Bryant’s decision date.
Bingo. If Auburn tried to put something together it would have to come from Gus and his staff themselves, not the usual guys. No one is helping Gus over there right now unless they're helping him pack his bags.
You're ignoring fit. Gus cannot win without a duel threat QB and/or a great RB. No great RB is walking through that door next year, so they desperately need a duel threat guy. Plus their offensive line is atrocious so they need someone with mobility as a weapon, not a pure pocket passer.
I think Gus goes after Khalil Tate. And we better hope he doesn't get him. He'd be a major upgraded version of Nick Marshall in that offense and Marshall was hell on wheels in that offense.
They were a national championship contender last year.
Oh, you're saying he can't win without players? Well hell that's all of sports.
KB makes his decision on Tuesday. He is clearly a big target for us. I wish fans would hold off any negative opinions at least until Wednesday. KB is a key component to us having a successful season next year. Too bad that so many of our fans can't see that.
As for AU, I really hate their system. I think it's too much east and west and its a little outdated. I can't see KB wanting to play there. K. Tate would be a fitter fit at AU and KB is a better fit at MSU.
As for AU, I really hate their system. I think it's too much east and west and its a little outdated. I can't see KB wanting to play there. K. Tate would be a fitter fit at AU and KB is a better fit at MSU.
You figure KT is good enough to do that, but obviously, Moorhead doesn't. I'm a little bothered by that, as it seems like KT has all the tools and if he can't get this offense (after Nick not getting the offense), I'm worried that's a coaching issue and not a KT issue. But I am not concerned that Moorhead somehow doesn't know what he has.
Just really hope auburn doesn't get Khalil Tate. Gus would be dangerous with tate
Moorhead needs an insurance policy. That's all this is. Similar to Malik Zaire at Flarrda or whatever.
He was 6th in the ACC last year in passing efficiency rating. That's while surrounded by Clemson talent vs. (non-Clemson) ACC talent. And his experience was beat out this year by a true freshman who with all that talent around him is currently leading the ACC in passing efficiency rating.
Think about our talent around the quarterback position relative to our SEC West competition. And think about Clemson's talent around the quarterback position relative to their ACC competition. I don't see him coming here and doing better than he did at Clemson. If I had to guess right now, I would say KT would beat him out.
Think about our talent around the quarterback position relative to our SEC West competition. And think about Clemson's talent around the quarterback position relative to their ACC competition. I don't see him coming here and doing better than he did at Clemson. If I had to guess right now, I would say KT would beat him out.
It matters because our head coach thinks he is an upgrade over who we have on campus.
Cool. That’s a valid opinion. How about we find out if he can beat him out? There’s literally no downside to bringing him in. We have the room on the roster and no guaranteed starter. Getting someone who would be serviceable at absolute minimum would be a great thing. Some folks on here have been severely spoiled by Dak or Mullen or both. Having just average QB play is never a given at MSU.
I don't think anyone expects him to do better than what he did at Clemson. If he does close to as good as he did at Clemson that's a win.
I'm not saying we or any other school shouldn't recruit him. I'm saying (1) it probably would not be wise on his part to transfer into a QB battle with 1 year of eligibility remaining and (2) State fans shouldn't assume he would beat out KT or even if he did that he would be a significant upgrade.
Look, If KT goes down, we would have a good replacement in KB. I see nothing but good insurance in getting KB or some other good experienced QB for a backup. I would hate to put an incoming frosh in the middle of an SEC game with such little experience. What am I missing here?
If you're basing that on the fact that we've offered him and he's been on an official visit, I think you're overstating your knowledge of what Moorhead thinks. Maybe you do have inside information, but there are other reasons to recruit a player. From our perspective, of course we'd love a QB battle to get the best QB possible. We'd also love to have the best possible backup. It could also be a reminder to KT that he shouldn't take anything for granted and that he still has to work for the job with Fitz graduating.
I don’t see him coming to Starkville just to sit the bench.
I have a feeling, if he chooses to come here, KT will have a decision to make.
i like KT but I don’t see either one, at this juncture, sitting a bench.
In my selfish eyes, I’d like to see us get KB and redshirt KT. Then reopen the QB competition up for Shrader/KT and prob a couple new faces....for 2020.
Joe is trying to win NOW. It’s very evident to me.
I don't see any grad transfer QB with only one year left going anywhere that doesn't promise him the starting job at least out of the gate, no matter what his competitive spirit is.
KB has a great comparison in the sec...
2017 KB...
65.8 comp % 7.0 yds/pass 13 td 8 int 131.73 rating
2018 terry wilson Kentucky...
67.6 comp % 7.0 yds/pass 11 td 8 int. 134.32 rating
Virtually identical stats, but Wilson did it in the sec with about a 1/3 of the offensive talent around him