Kentucky Expands Voting Access

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They are certainly liberal. I didn’t call them socialists. There is a difference. Many people would consider me liberal. Many would consider me conservative. I consider you a sheep
lol at the AP being liberal.

As someone who claims to be a libertarian, I would consider you an idiot living in a fantasy world who willingly associates, given your self claim of being a libertarian, with people who want to remove the age of consent so they can legally have sexual with children and babies.
 
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I didn’t have to provide a driver’s license or any other form of government issued photo ID to get my last credit card.

For a bank you need one. For a CC, you might not need it, but chances are, to prove you're responsible enough for a lender to take you on as a customer, you had to have used ID at some point. An example being, your address. Sure, you can fudge this, but many landlords require ID Verification. I know I do.

Id be curious to see how many Credit Card holders DON'T have ID. I can't imagine it's any meaningful percentage.
 

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Can the OP spell out how Georgia’s voters are disenfranchised as compared to
Kentucky’s after the passage of these laws?
There's nothing in that georgia bill that stops poc from voting. It's not hard to get an id and get an absentee ballot in on time. More woke bs.
 

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lol at the AP being liberal.

As someone who claims to be a libertarian, I would consider you an idiot living in a fantasy world who willingly associates, given your self claim of being a libertarian, with people who want to remove the age of consent so they can legally have sexual with children and babies.
nice Talking point sheep. As someone who is a liberal I would Be embarrassed if I were you associating myself with people who think Minorities are too poor and stupid to get an ID. You can’t even contain your subconscious racism. It’s bred into your democratic DNA.
 
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Is it coincidence that a red state rapidly losing control to Democrats, but still controlled by Republicans, would modify voting laws to work in their favor?

**** no. And let’s be real. That’s what it is. Would Democrats do anything different? Probably not. Because politics is 95% hypocrisy and 5% principle
 

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Is it coincidence that a red state rapidly losing control to Democrats, but still controlled by Republicans, would modify voting laws to work in their favor?

**** no. And let’s be real. That’s what it is. Would Democrats do anything different? Probably not. Because politics is 95% hypocrisy and 5% principle

That isn’t what is, the last election was a farce. You think states are just going to stand by and allow elections to be stolen?

400000 absentee votes in Georgia that were collected from drop boxes can’t have their chain of custody verified, that’s roughly 50% of all absentee votes in GA. That is an issue.
Nothing GA has done will prevent any legal voter from casting a ballot.
 
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If liberals are so dumb, what’s that say for the conservatives who, on average, have lower IQs, less education, are far more likely to fall for fake news and misleading/deceptive stories on social media, and primarily live in states that comprise the overwhelming majority of states in the bottom 15-20 for quality of life?

Sounds like some real geniuses to me!
 
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That isn’t what is, the last election was a farce. You think states are just going to stand by and allow elections to be stolen?

400000 absentee votes in Georgia that were collected from drop boxes can’t have their chain of custody verified, that’s roughly 50% of all absentee votes in GA. That is an issue.
Nothing GA has done will prevent any legal voter from casting a ballot.
Biden got the vast majority of military absentee votes in GA. Trump got most of the military vote... do the math. People were joking that Biden should of got the GA national guard to defend the capitol since 80% of them voted for him while Trump got 54%ish of the military vote.... which even that is weird since he was poling way higher in approval poles among the military before the election.
 
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If liberals are so dumb, what’s that say for the conservatives who, on average, have lower IQs, less education, are far more likely to fall for fake news and misleading/deceptive stories on social media, and primarily live in states that comprise the overwhelming majority of states in the bottom 15-20 for quality of life?

Sounds like some real geniuses to me!
Yet they donate more to charity and score higher on current event quizzes... Its garbage in garbage out. Half these people with degrees don't have a single marketable skill and are functional idiots. Those quality of life stats are soooo misleading. Im not trading my semi rural KY life for NYC or San Fran. Those people may say they are happy but its the free sandwich conundrum added with self worth through group history.
 
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If liberals are so dumb, what’s that say for the conservatives who, on average, have lower IQs, less education, are far more likely to fall for fake news and misleading/deceptive stories on social media, and primarily live in states that comprise the overwhelming majority of states in the bottom 15-20 for quality of life?

Sounds like some real geniuses to me!

You’re a fool if you believe any of that. This is coming from the Russia hoax and 100 grand for a liberal arts degree people. You know, “educated”.

The reality is that people are fleeing blue states for red states. That is an inarguable, incontrovertible fact, one that has no need for skewered stats and hollow preening.
 
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You need an ID to get food stamps, liquor, buy lotto tickets at a gas station. Someone out to remind the Democrats of that fact when they talk about how disenfranchised their voter base is by having IDs to vote.
 

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That isn’t what is, the last election was a farce. You think states are just going to stand by and allow elections to be stolen?

400000 absentee votes in Georgia that were collected from drop boxes can’t have their chain of custody verified, that’s roughly 50% of all absentee votes in GA. That is an issue.
Nothing GA has done will prevent any legal voter from casting a ballot.
How’d that work out for ya?
 
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Yet they donate more to charity and score higher on current event quizzes... Its garbage in garbage out. Half these people with degrees don't have a single marketable skill and are functional idiots. Those quality of life stats are soooo misleading. Im not trading my semi rural KY life for NYC or San Fran. Those people may say they are happy but its the free sandwich conundrum added with self worth through group history.
Yes because a state like New Hampshire, which #2 on the list for states with the best quality of life but also ranks #1 for states with most tree coverage (89%, compared to Kentucky's 58%), is teeming with the big city life!

The average city/town population in New Hampshire, of which there are 231, is 5,786. The average city/town in Kentucky, of which there are 533, is 4,930.

NH only has three cities with a population over 40K in Manchester (112K), Nashua (89K), and Concord (43K). Meanwhile, KY's biggest cities are Louisville/Jefferson County Metro (618K, and that's how it's listed on the website I'm looking at), Lexington-Fayette (321K), Bowling Green (68K), Owensboro (59K), and Covington (41K).

One can have a high quality of life while living in a largely rural state.

Meanwhile, all these people with college degrees have such a complete lack of marketable skills that in 2019, a person with a master's degree had an average weekly salary of $1,559 while those with a bachelor's had an average weekly salary of $1,281. Meanwhile, all those people with an advanced skillset that have some college and no degree only made $874 a week while those with a HS diploma and no college only made $749.

And is this the same current events quiz you are talking about? The one that has those with as little as just some college experience (which could mean you took one class on one day), on average, answering 11.5 questions correctly compared to 9.6 without any college experience? This doesn't help your crusade against college education. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2011/11/07/what-the-public-knows-in-words-and-pictures/

And the increase in charitable giving by conservatives can easily be chalked up to them having to fund stuff more on the private market because their state governments are proving far less for the needy in the form of taxes. Better funded organizations don't have to rely on charity as much as poorly funded organizations.

Got any other factually flawed opinions you'd like to share?
 
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You need an ID to get food stamps, liquor, buy lotto tickets at a gas station. Someone out to remind the Democrats of that fact when they talk about how disenfranchised their voter base is by having IDs to vote.
I can buy lotto tickets from what amounts to a vending machine here in Virginia.
 
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New Hampshire is one of thee most racist and biggest pro gun states in the nation. It looks beautiful.
New Hampshire is a really weird state politically. Like Forrest Gump said, it's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Swings wildly from Republican to Democrat to split seemingly every election cycle, pro-gun state as you mentioned, the first state to legalize gay marriage through the legislative process, first state to have a municipal recycling center, first state to have LED traffic lights, heavily anti-tax, opened the first public library funded by public funds in the world (despite being heavily anti-tax, which makes this so weird), first forest conservation group was founded in the state.

Can't vouch for the racism thing one way or the other, but it does seem fairly pretty from the pictures I've seen. Never been there before though.
 

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All this stuff about which state is better is silly. If you have enough money, there are great places to live in all 50 states. Personally, you could not pay me enough to live in Manhattan or anywhere in NYC, yet 8,000,000 people choose to do so. And a lot of them would laugh at you to suggest living in Kentucky. But what does that prove? I am right and 8,000,000 are wrong?

Just one more example of why Baskin & Robbins sells 31 flavors
 

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Voted by mail here in Florida last election and will continue to do so as long as it's permitted. We requested our ballots, filled them out, took them by the elections office up the road from us because the gutted US mail system was/is a train wreck. They scanned them in and handed them back to me to personally deposit in the box located in their office. Best voting experience we've ever had. Voting needs to be that easy for everyone. No exceptions.
 
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I find it weird we have people on here who want to put all these restrictions to practice the Constitutional right to vote but want everyone to have seemingly zero restrictions to practice their constitution right to gun ownership.
 
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New Hampshire is a really weird state politically. Like Forrest Gump said, it's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Swings wildly from Republican to Democrat to split seemingly every election cycle, pro-gun state as you mentioned, the first state to legalize gay marriage through the legislative process, first state to have a municipal recycling center, first state to have LED traffic lights, heavily anti-tax, opened the first public library funded by public funds in the world (despite being heavily anti-tax, which makes this so weird), first forest conservation group was founded in the state.

Can't vouch for the racism thing one way or the other, but it does seem fairly pretty from the pictures I've seen. Never been there before though.
They are the most white state in the country I believe.
 

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Voted by mail here in Florida last election and will continue to do so as long as it's permitted. We requested our ballots, filled them out, took them by the elections office up the road from us because the gutted US mail system was/is a train wreck. They scanned them in and handed them back to me to personally deposit in the box located in their office. Best voting experience we've ever had. Voting needs to be that easy for everyone. No exceptions.

The Postal service isn’t gutted, that was a narrative to get drop boxes on every corner.
What you just described is exactly what GA just adopted.
 
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I find it weird we have people on here who want to put all these restrictions to practice the Constitutional right to vote but want everyone to have seemingly zero restrictions to practice their constitution right to gun ownership.

There is no restriction on voting, showing an ID is common sense, and ensures election integrity which this past election was blatantly missing in many states. Each person has a responsibility to vote, showing an ID isn’t a restriction.
 
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The Postal service isn’t gutted, that was a narrative to get drop boxes on every corner.
What you just described is exactly what GA just adopted.
Wrong Bill. It's gutted and unreliable. My wife sent her dad a gift card for his birthday back in early March, and it has yet to show up. I received an email from my Dr. in February about paying a bill for a visit in December. I went online and paid it, and finally got the bill in the middle of March. Sent my niece a birthday card in January and she got it two weeks later. Currently, my Dollar Shave Club box is a week late. As for Georgia v Florida, did I mention Georgia? I was describing my excellent experience with voting by mail. We need for voting to be an easy experience for everyone.
 
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Wrong Bill. It's gutted and unreliable. My wife sent her dad a gift card for his birthday back in early March, and it has yet to show up. I received an email from my Dr. in February about paying a bill for a visit in December. I went online and paid it, and finally got the bill in the middle of March. Sent my niece a birthday card in January and she got it two weeks later. Currently, my Dollar Shave Club box is a week late. As for Georgia v Florida, did I mention Georgia? I was describing my excellent experience with voting by mail. We need for voting to be an easy experience for everyone.

No it isn’t JD, that’s a narrative. The post office is fine, that was a narrative created to get drop boxes.
I get live birds shipped through the mail, multiple packages a week, many are delivered on sundays.
 
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No it isn’t JD, that’s a narrative. The post office is fine, that was a narrative created to get drop boxes.
I get live birds shipped through the mail, multiple packages a week, many are delivered on sundays.
Narrative? No Bill, it's our experience over the last year plus. We have Sunday delivery too. Not sure what that has to do with anything though.
 

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Narrative? No Bill, it's our experience over the last year plus. We have Sunday delivery too. Not sure what that has to do with anything though.

It has to do with the false narrative that the post office can’t handle mail in ballots.

All of your examples were after Election Day.
 
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Narrative? No Bill, it's our experience over the last year plus. We have Sunday delivery too. Not sure what that has to do with anything though.
You're arguing that the post office can't handle the mail and are having serious delays getting your stuff while lauding mail in ballots as a great way to do voting. Do I have this right?