Kentucky Expands Voting Access

[hmt5000]

Voted by mail here in Florida last election and will continue to do so as long as it's permitted. We requested our ballots, filled them out, took them by the elections office up the road from us because the gutted US mail system was/is a train wreck. They scanned them in and handed them back to me to personally deposit in the box located in their office. Best voting experience we've ever had. Voting needs to be that easy for everyone. No exceptions.

Florida has been working on their absentee ballot for years though. And their state legislature set up the process as described in the constitution. The problem people have with GA, PA, MI, NV, AZ and WI is that their legislation was not involved in the process so the people who set up their mail in ballot plans did it unconstitutionally.

You requested a ballot but those other states just sent out ballots to registered voters with no request made. They didn't know if the people still lived in that address or even still lived in the state. Ballots were dropped off at drop boxes with no chain of custody. The constitution says that state legislatures determine how a state operates its election process and that didn't happen in any of those states.

 

[hmt5000]

Yes because a state like New Hampshire, which #2 on the list for states with the best quality of life but also ranks #1 for states with most tree coverage (89%, compared to Kentucky's 58%), is teeming with the big city life!

The average city/town population in New Hampshire, of which there are 231, is 5,786. The average city/town in Kentucky, of which there are 533, is 4,930.

NH only has three cities with a population over 40K in Manchester (112K), Nashua (89K), and Concord (43K). Meanwhile, KY's biggest cities are Louisville/Jefferson County Metro (618K, and that's how it's listed on the website I'm looking at), Lexington-Fayette (321K), Bowling Green (68K), Owensboro (59K), and Covington (41K).

One can have a high quality of life while living in a largely rural state.

Meanwhile, all these people with college degrees have such a complete lack of marketable skills that in 2019, a person with a master's degree had an average weekly salary of $1,559 while those with a bachelor's had an average weekly salary of $1,281. Meanwhile, all those people with an advanced skillset that have some college and no degree only made $874 a week while those with a HS diploma and no college only made $749.

And is this the same current events quiz you are talking about? The one that has those with as little as just some college experience (which could mean you took one class on one day), on average, answering 11.5 questions correctly compared to 9.6 without any college experience? This doesn't help your crusade against college education. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2011/11/07/what-the-public-knows-in-words-and-pictures/

And the increase in charitable giving by conservatives can easily be chalked up to them having to fund stuff more on the private market because their state governments are proving far less for the needy in the form of taxes. Better funded organizations don't have to rely on charity as much as poorly funded organizations.

Got any other factually flawed opinions you'd like to share?

You realize that most people aren't getting medical degrees and engineering degree right? Im all for education but getting a degree in womens studies or any race or gender "science" is basically like being an expert of a fictional story. And I didn't bring up NH... I brought up San Fran and NY. They have a poop app for drug addicts shitting on sidewalks in San Fran and violence is way up over the last 5 years in both. An 80 yo woman was hit up side the head just for giggles and died and the DA declined prosecution. There is a reason people are fleeing Cali and NY and Uhaul is months behind on supply.... Restaurants and bars only goes so far toward "Happiness".

But at least you admit Conservatives give more to charity. Of course you find some way to act like its not because they put their money where their mouth is and libs are largely hypocrites that want to help people as long as it doesn't put them in any discomfort.

The current events thing goes back decades. Republican voters generally score higher on quizzes about current events and policy than Dem voters.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

They are the most white state in the country I believe.

I thought it was North Dakota

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

They are the most white state in the country I believe.

Actually it’s Vermont so you were close

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

You realize that most people aren't getting medical degrees and engineering degree right? Im all for education but getting a degree in womens studies or any race or gender "science" is basically like being an expert of a fictional story. And I didn't bring up NH... I brought up San Fran and NY. They have a poop app for drug addicts shitting on sidewalks in San Fran and violence is way up over the last 5 years in both. An 80 yo woman was hit up side the head just for giggles and died and the DA declined prosecution. There is a reason people are fleeing Cali and NY and Uhaul is months behind on supply.... Restaurants and bars only goes so far toward "Happiness".

But at least you admit Conservatives give more to charity. Of course you find some way to act like its not because they put their money where their mouth is and libs are largely hypocrites that want to help people as long as it doesn't put them in any discomfort.

The current events thing goes back decades. Republican voters generally score higher on quizzes about current events and policy than Dem voters.

And you realize most people don’t get degrees in whatever those degree fields you mention, right?

19% (386,000) of all undergraduate degrees in 2017-18 were in business.* Health professions accounted for 12% (245,000). 8% (160,000) went to social sciences and history. 6% apiece (122,000) were in engineering, biology and biomedical science (119,000), psychology (116,000). 5% were in communications/journalism. 4% were in mostly worthless arts fields. Another 4% each were in education and computer science.

That’s the top-ten degree fields, which accounts for 72% of all undergraduate degrees rewarded on 2017-18.

Just Google most popular college degrees and you’ll see some sites with different data or more specific data that breaks down business and health professions into smaller groups instead of lumping them all together.

But you know what degrees aren’t listed on any of these sites for most popular college degrees? Women’s studies or race/gender sciences. This site** even lists 44 of the most popular degrees and those programs aren’t even listed in the top 44. How interesting, thought all these colleges were producing skill-less morons in all these touchy feely degrees?

*https://www.bestcolleges.com/blog/most-popular-college-majors/
**https://www.niche.com/blog/the-most-popular-college-majors/

 

[JumperJack]

Florida has been working on their absentee ballot for years though. And their state legislature set up the process as described in the constitution. The problem people have with GA, PA, MI, NV, AZ and WI is that their legislation was not involved in the process so the people who set up their mail in ballot plans did it unconstitutionally.

You requested a ballot but those other states just sent out ballots to registered voters with no request made. They didn't know if the people still lived in that address or even still lived in the state. Ballots were dropped off at drop boxes with no chain of custody. The constitution says that state legislatures determine how a state operates its election process and that didn't happen in any of those states.

Could we get this tattooed on the foreheads of the idiots still saying the election was not fraudulent? This is a perfect summation.

 

[jameslee32]

‘No Evidence’ Of Election Fraud In Battleground States, Statistical Analysis Finds As Trump Continues False Claims

Various Trump-appointed judges agreed in throwing out over 60 cases filed by his lawyers. Can't stop the lies though. That trick has continued and the rubes buy it every time.

 

[Tskware]

‘No Evidence’ Of Election Fraud In Battleground States, Statistical Analysis Finds As Trump Continues False Claims

Various Trump-appointed judges agreed in throwing out over 60 cases filed by his lawyers. Can't stop the lies though. That trick has continued and the rubes buy it every time.

It has been five months or more since the election, seems like there would be some real evidence by now, if such really existed anywhere other than on social media. Amazing how the two senate races in Georgia so closely matched the state results for President. Gotta hand it to the Democratic crooks, they managed to cheat in the same invisible and undetectable fashion in three different elections in 60 days. And nobody can prove how they did it!

OTOH, at some point you have to just admit "Your guy lost". Period, full stop. And the main reason he lost is that he is a blazing A hole and would not shut up or get off Twitter. Best evidence of this is that Republicans by and large did quite well nationally and at the state level, better than many expected. Speaking of Georgia, they would still control the Senate had DJT not acted like such a complete horse's *** in Georgia, no way they would have lost both runoffs.

 

[SDC888]

They just need to figure out a way to have a verifiable election, where it can be easily and expeditiously proven that one valid person equals one valid vote.

Failure to do that by the next election is proof positive the last one was stolen. There's no reason not too. Failing to find no statistical evidence of fraud, is not that, nor is it even proof that there isn't statistical evidence of the fraud.

 

[Kentucky#1]

A grand total of zero of Trump’s lawsuits were granted an evidentiary hearing.

Judges didn’t want to touch it with a ten foot pole.

That’s not some stellar example of due process or proof that Trump got his day in court and his claims were meritless.

 

[Tskware]

A grand total of zero of Trump’s lawsuits were granted an evidentiary hearing.

Judges didn’t want to touch it with a ten foot pole.

That’s not some stellar example of due process or proof that Trump got his day in court and his claims were meritless.

We will just have to agree to disagree, because many many people will say that the above is absolutely proof that his claims were and are meritless.

As an aside, I have heard for years how the courts should immediately throw out "frivolous" lawsuits. That is until judges actually start doing just that, like in this instance, and then the losing Plaintiffs (just like in this instance) are screaming bloody murder that the Judges are on the take, won't apply the law, are political hacks, blah, blah, blah.

Point being is that frivolous is often in the eye of the beholder.

 

[SDC888]

We will just have to agree to disagree, because many many people will say that the above is absolutely proof that his claims were and are meritless.

As an aside, I have heard for years how the courts should immediately throw out "frivolous" lawsuits. That is until judges actually start doing just that, like in this instance, and then the losing Plaintiffs (just like in this instance) are screaming bloody murder that the Judges are on the take, won't apply the law, are political hacks, blah, blah, blah.

Point being is that frivolous is often in the eye of the beholder.

That's not proof; that's the equivalent of the plaintiff and the defense presenting expert witnesses that disagree.

 

[SDC888]

You can have proof by creating a system that is verifiable, plenty of time between now and 2022 to get that done.

The rushed Covid extenuating circumstances excuse will no longer apply.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

lol at the AP being liberal.

As someone who claims to be a libertarian, I would consider you an idiot living in a fantasy world who willingly associates, given your self claim of being a libertarian, with people who want to remove the age of consent so they can legally have sexual with children and babies.

 

[29er]

When Kentucky turns into Swing state like Georgia. GOP will start trying to suppress black voting areas.

 

[Deeeefense]

I didn’t know Georgia had 90+ temps in November.

And are Dems saying minorities aren’t smart enough to bring water when they go out in hot temperatures? Are there mass heat casualties in GA year round when there aren’t campaign workers to bring them water in the other 11 months?

I don't think this is about temperatures, it goes back to the issue of why anyone of any color or political persuasion should have to stand in line for as much as 10 hours to vote. There should be sufficient voting infrastructure that would allow people to cast their votes in a reasonable length of time. I don't know if the blame here falls on local election officials, the state legislature, lack of funding etc. but to me that is a disgracefully situation that should be addressed.

 

[Deeeefense]

Biden got the vast majority of military absentee votes in GA. Trump got most of the military vote... do the math. People were joking that Biden should of got the GA national guard to defend the capitol since 80% of them voted for him while Trump got 54%ish of the military vote.... which even that is weird since he was poling way higher in approval poles among the military before the election.

Not sure that's correct. Poll in Military Times showed the Biden was considerably more popularity before the election. However Trump got more votes from veterans:

 

[Bill Derington]

I don't think this is about temperatures, it goes back to the issue of why anyone of any color or political persuasion should have to stand in line for as much as 10 hours to vote. There should be sufficient voting infrastructure that would allow people to cast their votes in a reasonable length of time. I don't know if the blame here falls on local election officials, the state legislature, lack of funding etc. but to me that is a disgracefully situation that should be addressed.

The bill in GA directly tackles that problem.

 

[Bill Derington]

We will just have to agree to disagree, because many many people will say that the above is absolutely proof that his claims were and are meritless.

As an aside, I have heard for years how the courts should immediately throw out "frivolous" lawsuits. That is until judges actually start doing just that, like in this instance, and then the losing Plaintiffs (just like in this instance) are screaming bloody murder that the Judges are on the take, won't apply the law, are political hacks, blah, blah, blah.

Point being is that frivolous is often in the eye of the beholder.

There’s a difference between a frivolous lawsuit, and judges not wanting to hear a case.
They didn’t allow one witness that signed an affidavit to testify in court. There were hours upon hour of testimony in several key states.
PA Sec of State resigned for the same thing the Republicans were accusing her of with the voting law, 400000 absentee votes in GA roughly 50% of the total don’t have a chain of custody, Billionaires giving out grants, ie payoffs, to have access to absentee ballots. The 2020 election was a shitshow and if what took place here were in another nation the State Drpt would call it a fraudulent election.
Also in GA the new law removes the Sec of State from the equation, because Raffensberger is either an idiot or corrupt, and likely both.

 

[Deeeefense]

The bill in GA directly tackles that problem.

I did a little fact checking and guess what - you are correct! (see linked article below for details)

The concern I have about the bill is the power they granted themselves to seize control of local elections. That's potentially a huge issue. Also what in the heck does this mean?

The law guarantees that any one Georgia voter can challenge an unlimited number of other individuals' qualifications to vote.

So if half the Dems challenge half the Reps and vice versa what happens then??

link

 

[Tskware]

I did a little fact checking and guess what - you are correct! (see linked article below for details)

The concern I have about the bill is the power they granted themselves to seize control of local elections. That's potentially a huge issue. Also what in the heck does this mean?

The law guarantees that any one Georgia voter can challenge an unlimited number of other individuals' qualifications to vote.

So if half the Dems challenge half the Reps and vice versa what happens then??

link

I am no legal expert but I will bet a lot of money the law as passed will not stand scrutiny by the courts

 

[Bill Derington]

I did a little fact checking and guess what - you are correct! (see linked article below for details)

The concern I have about the bill is the power they granted themselves to seize control of local elections. That's potentially a huge issue. Also what in the heck does this mean?

The law guarantees that any one Georgia voter can challenge an unlimited number of other individuals' qualifications to vote.

So if half the Dems challenge half the Reps and vice versa what happens then??

link

That’s a valid concern, as far as taking over an election I would assume it’s to prevent a district from intentionally creating a situation where voters have to wait long periods of time.

 

[Bill Derington]

I am no legal expert but I will bet a lot of money the law as passed will not stand scrutiny by the courts I am no legal expert but I will bet a lot of money the law as passed will not stand scrutiny by the courts

Which part? You are probably right, as Stacey Abrams sister is a federal judge in GA. Having said that, the SCOTUS just set a precedent of not wanting the federal judiciary to get involved with state election laws.

 

[JDHoss]

It has to do with the false narrative that the post office can’t handle mail in ballots.

All of your examples were after Election Day.

It's been going downhill way since before election day. We spend most of the year in Florida, but when we go back to Tennessee for a month, I have the mail forwarded, but it winds up being a jacked up mess. That Dollar Shave Club shipment that I said was a week behind? I tracked it today. It arrived here last week, and was marked "out for delivery" but never scanned as delivered. I've got to go to the ****ing post office on Midway Rd tomorrow to see WTF happened.