Very relevant. Name a rapper with a more successful 25 year run. You canāt, donāt try.
Thank God I wasnāt the only one thinking that.In no world should Niki Minaj have more sales than Tupac. Dead or not PAC should be right behind Eminem in sales.
Better than the techno version. LMAO. Dude in the green shirt is killin it!Can someone post a video of some rappers rapping while cloggerās clog. I need to see this happen before I die.
Some funny **** here....
Seems like a great thing for the program if they can pull it off. Also if live to hear some suggestions from the people that donāt like rap. Who would you get that recruits would also be into?
Iām not a huge rap fan but I am a musician and youāre spot on. Anyone saying rap artists arenāt musicians donāt know **** about performing/creating music on any level IMO.
Personal taste is one thing and everyone has their own but saying rap isnāt valid is dumb. Hell nothing touches Beethoven on a āmusicalityā level, doesnāt mean all music past the 1800ās sucks.
Better than the techno version. LMAO. Dude in the green shirt is killin it!
Wayne was in a group called hot boyz before he went solo. Late 90s when he was like 15 or 16 years old. He's had plenty of success even if you don't prefer his music which is cool because i haven't always been a fan either. Em selling more records isn't as crazy to me because he was the white boy who could rap. Nobody was ever like him when he blew upI hate rap and know nothing about it. Has Lil Wayne been rapping successfully for 25yrs? When did his first album drop? Was it 2000?
Years of successful rapping being almost equal. Eminem seems to have had more success. Google says so anyhow.
The info @ThunderMash posted hadnāt came out yet. It was shortly thereafter that the news hit about what he posted.Seems to me if youāre going to create the thread about it thatās your job.
Grom, you lost me when you called Wayne a mumble rapper. Made it clear you donāt know enough about the topic to have a respectable opinion. Iāll talk basketball or politics with you all day though.Eminem of course.
The only reason anyone would think lilw over E is because of the trend that he started. But Iād argue Eminem actually changed the entire culture. And the only reason lots of guys followed lilw over E is because itās easier to Be lilw than E. You canāt be Eminem, heās too talented. No disrespect to Lilw, but mumble rapping with some face tats is just easier to do to make money. If they try being Eminem theyāll make a fool of themselves. And many artist have tried to follow Eminem but itās too difficult. Iād still rather listen to an E prodigy like Hopson than a Lilw prodigy like Tekashi or post.
Iāll go old school and blast skinny Pimp before I listen to the mumble ****.
Eminem is the goat at this point I know a lot of people in hip hop donāt like it but he is. I still think Dre and E together leaves no room to get better
Name one rapper who āmumblesā.I think Em has gotten better with time, flow and rhymes, speed and writing. I donāt know whoās good anymore, most every new rapper Iāve heard is mumble junk.
Grom, you lost me when you called Wayne a mumble rapper. Made it clear you donāt know enough about the topic to have a respectable opinion. Iāll talk basketball or politics with you all day though.
Name one rapper who mumbles.Let me make a correction. Heās not a mumble rapper, but mumble rap was sort of birthed from his path in a sense.
Iām well versed on my music.
My taste in music seems to have largely died when the grunge and gangster rap era ended. However, in my highly cultured Gen X - Millennial tweener view, I can confidently state that Drake > Jack Harlow.
Name one rapper who mumbles.
You couldnāt even give me one nameā¦Is this serious? Now Kari donāt make the case that mumble rap isnāt real. I know thatās not where weāre going.
You couldnāt even give me one nameā¦
Name one āmumble rapperā. Iām still waiting.Well tell me what weāre doing. I can name a lot of mumble rap itās really all thatās out today. I need it faster I canāt do it.
Are you making a case that mumble rap isnāt a thing? I know a lot of younger guys try and get around it but you canāt. Mumble rap is real and itās wasting the game away.
You couldnāt even give me one nameā¦
And for the record I think the term āmumble rapā has been propagated mostly by whites attempting to delegitimize a black dominated genre of music. When pressed, Iāve never heard anyone who talks about supposed āmumble rapā, be able to articulate what exactly they mean by that. Usually when they throw names out, itās rappers who have southern accents that they have trouble understanding. People of past generations had the same type of reactions to Jazz music in dismissing its quality.
Name one āmumble rapperā. Iām still waiting.
Name one mumble rapper MorgDamn Kari you really have gone all in on the leftist playbook to brainwash Black America into seeing racism around every corner and in every closet. Youāre too smart to go down this road man. Itās all a tactic and thatās why if you look at the data more and more minorities are leaving the mindset behind and stepping away from white made victimization and grievance for Black minds. Youāre partnering with the wolf Kari.
To bring this back down to earth no, itās not a āpolitically racist commentā lol. The entire concept of mumble rap was started by Black rappers lol. Kari let go of the feminist playbook thatās making you totally paranoid my man.
Name one mumble rapper Morg
You know I've been skeptical, but I like this move because Drake is now affiliated with Nike.Aka Cal is desperate. That all sounds great but he still needs to show that heās willing to change his coaching ways to be successful again.
Ok for one Lil Pump is unbelievably irrelevant and doesnāt even make music anymore. Second, explain how he mumbles? That makes no sense, he literally does the opposite. Itās more like chant ārappingā, where he yells the same thing over and over. This is kinda proving my point. āMumble rapā gets slapped on to anything you donāt like (not that anyone does or should like Lil Pump).Lil Pump. Easy one. K Black. Another easy one. I could go on and on.
Ok for one Lil Pump is unbelievably irrelevant and doesnāt even make music anymore. Second, explain how he mumbles? That makes no sense, he literally does the opposite. Itās more like chant ārappingā, where he yells the same thing over and over. This is kinda proving my point. āMumble rapā gets slapped on to anything you donāt like (not that anyone does or should like Lil Pump).
I know you didnāt just call Kodak Black a mumble rapper. He has a Haitian accent. This is exactly what I was talking about in the comment that you threw a hissy fit about. The term Mumble rap has a negative connotation and you know thatās true. Kodak is supremely talented by any standard and you dismiss him as a mumble rapper because of regional accent. Thatās the exact ******** Iām talking about.I knew you were going to argue that mumble rap isnāt even real. Itās an entire genre of rap today lol. I just threw two names out.
You might want to tell every OG walking that mumble rap isnāt even a thing. They donāt know that.
You have to be trolling at this point. Drake is more of a singer than a rapper, and Eazy-E was an objectively terrible rapper. Dude literally didnāt even know how to rap and thatās a fact. **** they made a movie about the guy and STILL clowned him for being garbage.Personally I think Drake is a form of mumble rap (arguable) and really Wayne is close but Iāll accept heās not.
If Eazy-E was around today he would absolutely throw a **** fit over this style being called rap.
I know you didnāt just call Kodak Black a mumble rapper. He has a Haitian accent. This is exactly what I was talking about in the comment that you threw a hissy fit about. The term Mumble rap has a negative connotation and you know thatās true. Kodak is supremely talented by any standard and you dismiss him as a mumble rapper because of regional accent. Thatās the exact ******** Iām talking about.
You have to be trolling at this point. Drake is more of a singer than a rapper, and Eazy-E was an objectively terrible rapper. Dude literally didnāt even know how to rap and thatās a fact. **** they made a movie about the guy and STILL clowned him for being garbage.
Absolutely relevant. And his 25 year run was incredible.Very relevant. Name a rapper with a more successful 25 year run. You canāt, donāt try.
You can see a lot of Wayne in early Drake, some verses sound like Wayne wrote and recorded them and had Drake kinda copy the template. Obviously Drake has branched out since then, heās hit or miss for me though. Whatever you think about Drake, you have to give the guy credit for how strategic he has been in always keeping his music out there and always in the consciousness of hip hop culture. His last two releases were vomit-inducing garbage thoughItās all the same in ways to me even though itās not the same in reality. When Wayne went big (I was listening to rap way before that) it changed the industry. Everything that flowed from that is the similar to me. Itās all similar and itās not rap.
No Iām not saying Drake and lil Wayne are the same.
First of all Iām not with the āyouāre too smart for this ********ā gaslighting ********. Secondly, I just spent 5 of the last 6 years in the military living in the panhandle of Florida (3rd most Red district in America), so Iām about as far removed as one can be from whatever the hell this āLeftist networkā you speak of is. I havenāt had cable television in over a decade so when people say stuff like āyou must watch CNNāā¦I literally donāt even know what CNN is or what they talk about.I donāt care what he is heās a mumble rapper. He doesnāt rap in the way rap was intended.
This is what Iāve always thought and Iāve been listening to rap far longer than you Iād bet money on that. What weāre hearing today really isnāt rap, itās a form of rap but much of it needs its own genre. If we would simply do that then myself as well as millions of others (including the OGās who started everything and agree with me) would gladly let it go. But they Call themselves rappers and thatās where the problem comes in. Real lyricism in this line of music cannot be mumbled or slowly spoken, itās gotta be the way itās intended.
I get it you grew up on it and youāre younger. Weāve all got our opinions. But at least with this type of conversation try, just a little, to keep the leftist rules (everything is racist) out of it. My God do you not understand this is why nobody takes the word seriously? Youāve gotta be pretty far out on the leftist network to suggest something so incredible. I do not value people by skin color and I do not believe the color of skin can tell me anything about a person, at all. So continuing to insinuate this just shows youāve been told what to believe, which is the point of the people youāve chosen to build your mindset to. KBlack is a mumble rapper where heās from has nothing to do with it. Thereās a lot more I can name but then you wonāt like that Iām talking about a person of a certain color and thatāll be racist.
Youāre too smart for this ********. That I know. In my opinion and in my line of work you see this routinely. Victimization is a base desire. All humans have the capacity to seek and entertain a sort of self excitement that arises from a base desire like victimization. We utilize this often to soften people and make them feel really comfortable. Itās a tactic, and itās what youāve bought into because your brain tells you it feels great. Then what people do in the political sense is use it as a tool to hate people based off of nothing but itās acceptable. In reality itās not acceptable - and Iād personally appreciate it if youād stop with those insinuations. Eventually this kind of thing is going to wear thin and end up hurting real causes that matter.
Personally I would begin to think about it.
You know what I think is racist? And has negative connotation? White Leftist feminists telling 50 cent to remember heās black when he goes to vote. Maybe youāre angry at the wrong people.