Kentucky Is Working To Get Drake, Lil Wayne Plus Kanye (Ye) To Lexington In The Future.

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Very relevant. Name a rapper with a more successful 25 year run. You can’t, don’t try.

Eminem of course.

The only reason anyone would think lilw over E is because of the trend that he started. But I’d argue Eminem actually changed the entire culture. And the only reason lots of guys followed lilw over E is because it’s easier to Be lilw than E. You can’t be Eminem, he’s too talented. No disrespect to Lilw, but mumble rapping with some face tats is just easier to do to make money. If they try being Eminem they’ll make a fool of themselves. And many artist have tried to follow Eminem but it’s too difficult. I’d still rather listen to an E prodigy like Hopson than a Lilw prodigy like Tekashi or post.

I’ll go old school and blast skinny Pimp before I listen to the mumble ****.

Eminem is the goat at this point I know a lot of people in hip hop don’t like it but he is. I still think Dre and E together leaves no room to get better
 
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UofL will probably have MasterP performing the Ice Cream Man this year since his little boy Hercy will be playing for the Cards this year! Well he will be sitting his *** in a corner somewhere til P can think up some more excuses why his son didn’t get more floor time. He’d probably still b at Tenn State but they just didn’t have enough trainers lol according to Master P. It all started to come to me why UK is the favorite to land DJ again is cuz he don’t wanna go play behind Hercy 😂.
 

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Seems like a great thing for the program if they can pull it off. Also if live to hear some suggestions from the people that don’t like rap. Who would you get that recruits would also be into?

Several recruits were into Katina and her crew. ;)
 

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I’m not a huge rap fan but I am a musician and you’re spot on. Anyone saying rap artists aren’t musicians don’t know **** about performing/creating music on any level IMO.

Personal taste is one thing and everyone has their own but saying rap isn’t valid is dumb. Hell nothing touches Beethoven on a “musicality” level, doesn’t mean all music past the 1800’s sucks.

Growing up in the 50s and 60s the first time I heard the term "Beethoven's Fifth" I thought it was probably another over priced whiskey. 🍸
 

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I hate rap and know nothing about it. Has Lil Wayne been rapping successfully for 25yrs? When did his first album drop? Was it 2000?
Years of successful rapping being almost equal. Eminem seems to have had more success. Google says so anyhow.
Wayne was in a group called hot boyz before he went solo. Late 90s when he was like 15 or 16 years old. He's had plenty of success even if you don't prefer his music which is cool because i haven't always been a fan either. Em selling more records isn't as crazy to me because he was the white boy who could rap. Nobody was ever like him when he blew up
 

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My taste in music seems to have largely died when the grunge and gangster rap era ended. However, in my highly cultured Gen X - Millennial tweener view, I can confidently state that Drake > Jack Harlow.
 
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Eminem of course.

The only reason anyone would think lilw over E is because of the trend that he started. But I’d argue Eminem actually changed the entire culture. And the only reason lots of guys followed lilw over E is because it’s easier to Be lilw than E. You can’t be Eminem, he’s too talented. No disrespect to Lilw, but mumble rapping with some face tats is just easier to do to make money. If they try being Eminem they’ll make a fool of themselves. And many artist have tried to follow Eminem but it’s too difficult. I’d still rather listen to an E prodigy like Hopson than a Lilw prodigy like Tekashi or post.

I’ll go old school and blast skinny Pimp before I listen to the mumble ****.

Eminem is the goat at this point I know a lot of people in hip hop don’t like it but he is. I still think Dre and E together leaves no room to get better
Grom, you lost me when you called Wayne a mumble rapper. Made it clear you don’t know enough about the topic to have a respectable opinion. I’ll talk basketball or politics with you all day though.
 

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I think Em has gotten better with time, flow and rhymes, speed and writing. I don’t know who’s good anymore, most every new rapper I’ve heard is mumble junk.
Name one rapper who “mumbles”.
 

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Grom, you lost me when you called Wayne a mumble rapper. Made it clear you don’t know enough about the topic to have a respectable opinion. I’ll talk basketball or politics with you all day though.

Let me make a correction. He’s not a mumble rapper, but mumble rap was sort of birthed from his path in a sense.

I’m well versed on my music. I literally have gin and juice every morning.
 
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My taste in music seems to have largely died when the grunge and gangster rap era ended. However, in my highly cultured Gen X - Millennial tweener view, I can confidently state that Drake > Jack Harlow.

We’re the same age apparently. Xllenial. When Lane Staley and gangster rap went away a lot about me went with it.
 

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Is this serious? Now Kari don’t make the case that mumble rap isn’t real. I know that’s not where we’re going.
You couldn’t even give me one name…

And for the record I think the term “mumble rap” has been propagated mostly by whites attempting to delegitimize a black dominated genre of music. When pressed, I’ve never heard anyone who talks about supposed “mumble rap”, be able to articulate what exactly they mean by that. Usually when they throw names out, it’s rappers who have southern accents that they have trouble understanding. People of past generations had the same type of reactions to Jazz music in dismissing its quality.
 
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You couldn’t even give me one name…

Well tell me what we’re doing. I can name a lot of mumble rap it’s really all that’s out today. I need it faster I can’t do it.

Are you making a case that mumble rap isn’t a thing? I know a lot of younger guys try and get around it but you can’t. Mumble rap is real and it’s wasting the game away.
 

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Well tell me what we’re doing. I can name a lot of mumble rap it’s really all that’s out today. I need it faster I can’t do it.

Are you making a case that mumble rap isn’t a thing? I know a lot of younger guys try and get around it but you can’t. Mumble rap is real and it’s wasting the game away.
Name one “mumble rapper”. I’m still waiting.
 

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You couldn’t even give me one name…

And for the record I think the term “mumble rap” has been propagated mostly by whites attempting to delegitimize a black dominated genre of music. When pressed, I’ve never heard anyone who talks about supposed “mumble rap”, be able to articulate what exactly they mean by that. Usually when they throw names out, it’s rappers who have southern accents that they have trouble understanding. People of past generations had the same type of reactions to Jazz music in dismissing its quality.

Damn Kari you really have gone all in on the leftist playbook to brainwash Black America into seeing racism around every corner and in every closet. You’re too smart to go down this road man. It’s all a tactic and that’s why if you look at the data more and more minorities are leaving the mindset behind and stepping away from white made victimization and grievance for Black minds. You’re partnering with the wolf Kari.

To bring this back down to earth no, it’s not a “politically racist comment” lol. The entire concept of mumble rap was started by Black rappers lol. Kari let go of the feminist playbook that’s making you totally paranoid my man.it’s all to keep Black people in the grievance industry because the gains made take their jobs away.
 

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Damn Kari you really have gone all in on the leftist playbook to brainwash Black America into seeing racism around every corner and in every closet. You’re too smart to go down this road man. It’s all a tactic and that’s why if you look at the data more and more minorities are leaving the mindset behind and stepping away from white made victimization and grievance for Black minds. You’re partnering with the wolf Kari.

To bring this back down to earth no, it’s not a “politically racist comment” lol. The entire concept of mumble rap was started by Black rappers lol. Kari let go of the feminist playbook that’s making you totally paranoid my man.
Name one mumble rapper Morg
 

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Aka Cal is desperate. That all sounds great but he still needs to show that he’s willing to change his coaching ways to be successful again.
You know I've been skeptical, but I like this move because Drake is now affiliated with Nike.

If it means getting guys like Wagner huge NIL deals, and they actually end up in Lexington, I'm all for it.

Use Nike. Use Drake. Use combinations of both of all of those connections. Pay the kids a ton of money to play for us. Get the elite of the elite again, and get back to the Final Four.

I actually like what I'm seeing from Calipari this summer. I think he's willing to change.
 

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Lil Pump. Easy one. K Black. Another easy one. I could go on and on.
Ok for one Lil Pump is unbelievably irrelevant and doesn’t even make music anymore. Second, explain how he mumbles? That makes no sense, he literally does the opposite. It’s more like chant “rapping”, where he yells the same thing over and over. This is kinda proving my point. “Mumble rap” gets slapped on to anything you don’t like (not that anyone does or should like Lil Pump).
 

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Ok for one Lil Pump is unbelievably irrelevant and doesn’t even make music anymore. Second, explain how he mumbles? That makes no sense, he literally does the opposite. It’s more like chant “rapping”, where he yells the same thing over and over. This is kinda proving my point. “Mumble rap” gets slapped on to anything you don’t like (not that anyone does or should like Lil Pump).

I knew you were going to argue that mumble rap isn’t even real. It’s an entire genre of rap today lol. I just threw two names out.

You might want to tell every OG walking that mumble rap isn’t even a thing. They don’t know that.
 

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Personally I think Drake is a form of mumble rap (arguable) and really Wayne is close but I’ll accept he’s not.


If Eazy-E was around today he would absolutely throw a **** fit over this style being called rap.
 

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I knew you were going to argue that mumble rap isn’t even real. It’s an entire genre of rap today lol. I just threw two names out.

You might want to tell every OG walking that mumble rap isn’t even a thing. They don’t know that.
I know you didn’t just call Kodak Black a mumble rapper. He has a Haitian accent. This is exactly what I was talking about in the comment that you threw a hissy fit about. The term Mumble rap has a negative connotation and you know that’s true. Kodak is supremely talented by any standard and you dismiss him as a mumble rapper because of regional accent. That’s the exact ******** I’m talking about.
 

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Personally I think Drake is a form of mumble rap (arguable) and really Wayne is close but I’ll accept he’s not.


If Eazy-E was around today he would absolutely throw a **** fit over this style being called rap.
You have to be trolling at this point. Drake is more of a singer than a rapper, and Eazy-E was an objectively terrible rapper. Dude literally didn’t even know how to rap and that’s a fact. **** they made a movie about the guy and STILL clowned him for being garbage.
 
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Rap is def not what I listen to most but when I’m not Listening to classic rock or metal i really like J Cole and kid cudi
 
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I know you didn’t just call Kodak Black a mumble rapper. He has a Haitian accent. This is exactly what I was talking about in the comment that you threw a hissy fit about. The term Mumble rap has a negative connotation and you know that’s true. Kodak is supremely talented by any standard and you dismiss him as a mumble rapper because of regional accent. That’s the exact ******** I’m talking about.

I don’t care what he is he’s a mumble rapper. He doesn’t rap in the way rap was intended.

This is what I’ve always thought and I’ve been listening to rap far longer than you I’d bet money on that. What we’re hearing today really isn’t rap, it’s a form of rap but much of it needs its own genre. If we would simply do that then myself as well as millions of others (including the OG’s who started everything and agree with me) would gladly let it go. But they Call themselves rappers and that’s where the problem comes in. Real lyricism in this line of music cannot be mumbled or slowly spoken, it’s gotta be the way it’s intended.

I get it you grew up on it and you’re younger. We’ve all got our opinions. But at least with this type of conversation try, just a little, to keep the leftist rules (everything is racist) out of it. My God do you not understand this is why nobody takes the word seriously? You’ve gotta be pretty far out on the leftist network to suggest something so incredible. I do not value people by skin color and I do not believe the color of skin can tell me anything about a person, at all. So continuing to insinuate this just shows you’ve been told what to believe, which is the point of the people you’ve chosen to build your mindset to. KBlack is a mumble rapper where he’s from has nothing to do with it. There’s a lot more I can name but then you won’t like that I’m talking about a person of a certain color and that’ll be racist.

You’re too smart for this ********. That I know. In my opinion and in my line of work you see this routinely. Victimization is a base desire. All humans have the capacity to seek and entertain a sort of self excitement that arises from a base desire like victimization. We utilize this often to soften people and make them feel really comfortable. It’s a tactic, and it’s what you’ve bought into because your brain tells you it feels great. Then what people do in the political sense is use it as a tool to hate people based off of nothing but it’s acceptable. In reality it’s not acceptable - and I’d personally appreciate it if you’d stop with those insinuations. Eventually this kind of thing is going to wear thin and end up hurting real causes that matter.

Personally I would begin to think about it.

You know what I think is racist? And has negative connotation? White Leftist feminists telling 50 cent to remember he’s black when he goes to vote. Maybe you’re angry at the wrong people.
 
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You have to be trolling at this point. Drake is more of a singer than a rapper, and Eazy-E was an objectively terrible rapper. Dude literally didn’t even know how to rap and that’s a fact. **** they made a movie about the guy and STILL clowned him for being garbage.

It’s all the same in ways to me even though it’s not the same in reality. When Wayne went big (I was listening to rap way before that) it changed the industry. Everything that flowed from that is the similar to me. It’s all similar and it’s not rap.

No I’m not saying Drake and lil Wayne are the same.
 

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It’s all the same in ways to me even though it’s not the same in reality. When Wayne went big (I was listening to rap way before that) it changed the industry. Everything that flowed from that is the similar to me. It’s all similar and it’s not rap.

No I’m not saying Drake and lil Wayne are the same.
You can see a lot of Wayne in early Drake, some verses sound like Wayne wrote and recorded them and had Drake kinda copy the template. Obviously Drake has branched out since then, he’s hit or miss for me though. Whatever you think about Drake, you have to give the guy credit for how strategic he has been in always keeping his music out there and always in the consciousness of hip hop culture. His last two releases were vomit-inducing garbage though 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮 His music seems to be geared toward the 16 and under TikTok audience these days. It’s a winning strategy monetarily no doubt though.
 
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I don’t care what he is he’s a mumble rapper. He doesn’t rap in the way rap was intended.

This is what I’ve always thought and I’ve been listening to rap far longer than you I’d bet money on that. What we’re hearing today really isn’t rap, it’s a form of rap but much of it needs its own genre. If we would simply do that then myself as well as millions of others (including the OG’s who started everything and agree with me) would gladly let it go. But they Call themselves rappers and that’s where the problem comes in. Real lyricism in this line of music cannot be mumbled or slowly spoken, it’s gotta be the way it’s intended.

I get it you grew up on it and you’re younger. We’ve all got our opinions. But at least with this type of conversation try, just a little, to keep the leftist rules (everything is racist) out of it. My God do you not understand this is why nobody takes the word seriously? You’ve gotta be pretty far out on the leftist network to suggest something so incredible. I do not value people by skin color and I do not believe the color of skin can tell me anything about a person, at all. So continuing to insinuate this just shows you’ve been told what to believe, which is the point of the people you’ve chosen to build your mindset to. KBlack is a mumble rapper where he’s from has nothing to do with it. There’s a lot more I can name but then you won’t like that I’m talking about a person of a certain color and that’ll be racist.

You’re too smart for this ********. That I know. In my opinion and in my line of work you see this routinely. Victimization is a base desire. All humans have the capacity to seek and entertain a sort of self excitement that arises from a base desire like victimization. We utilize this often to soften people and make them feel really comfortable. It’s a tactic, and it’s what you’ve bought into because your brain tells you it feels great. Then what people do in the political sense is use it as a tool to hate people based off of nothing but it’s acceptable. In reality it’s not acceptable - and I’d personally appreciate it if you’d stop with those insinuations. Eventually this kind of thing is going to wear thin and end up hurting real causes that matter.

Personally I would begin to think about it.

You know what I think is racist? And has negative connotation? White Leftist feminists telling 50 cent to remember he’s black when he goes to vote. Maybe you’re angry at the wrong people.
First of all I’m not with the “you’re too smart for this ********” gaslighting ********. Secondly, I just spent 5 of the last 6 years in the military living in the panhandle of Florida (3rd most Red district in America), so I’m about as far removed as one can be from whatever the hell this “Leftist network” you speak of is. I haven’t had cable television in over a decade so when people say stuff like “you must watch CNN”…I literally don’t even know what CNN is or what they talk about.

What I said is 100% true. People have been denigrating “black music” for so long and if you don’t believe it’s happened with rap over the decades and still today, you are literally ignoring history and facts. Look up the Luther Campbell/2 Live Crew court case for starters. If you can’t even recognize that rappers face racism, then you are part of the problem. NBA Youngboy was just the target of a federal case called “Never Free Again” and beat the case. The feds spent YOUR tax money to try to put away a black man for life because they didn’t like his music videos. Young Thug and Gunna are currently imprisoned and their lyrics are being used against them as “evidence”. This isn’t happening to white artists, and it isn’t happening to white rappers. It’s not pretty, but acting like there’s not a problem just makes **** worse.