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Bravo John Clay for calling it like it is... Stansbury's teams'
performances are a reflection of their lack of discipline and focus,
which is a direct reflection on their coaching. They lack a will to win
and that is, in part, down to coaching. Pot shots at former players,
constant complaining about the officiating, crying about NCAA decrees,
etc... Meanwhile his players fight in the stands, forget to withdraw
their name from the NBA draft on time, can't win games in conference
play that they should, try and trip players when calls don't go their
way, shove them in the back when the game is all but over, and in
general lack discipline. They get up for one game a year (UK) and expect
to be patted on the back for losing... again.
Mississippi State is
likely the second most talented team in the SEC behind UK. Yet somehow
they manage to lose to LSU, Auburn, and GA (at home)? Then they blow a
13 point halftime lead to UK in the Hump and all Stansbury has to say
(multiple times) is that Hood being out was huge. Oh, and that everyone
saw how hard his team fought... UK finished on a 20-4 run; that's not
Hood being out, that's not Miss St fighting hard, that's UK and
Calipari's will to win. As soon as Miss St. got behind, they all hung
their heads and acted like someone had stolen their tater tots. I think
Stansbury is certain that John Calipari stole his tater tots, which is
why his team lost. </div> </div><div style="width: 1px; height: 1px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font: 10pt sans-serif; text-align: left; text-transform: none; overflow: hidden;">
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2...-gets.html#storylink=cpy</div>
Bravo John Clay for calling it like it is... Stansbury's teams'
performances are a reflection of their lack of discipline and focus,
which is a direct reflection on their coaching. They lack a will to win
and that is, in part, down to coaching. Pot shots at former players,
constant complaining about the officiating, crying about NCAA decrees,
etc... Meanwhile his players fight in the stands, forget to withdraw
their name from the NBA draft on time, can't win games in conference
play that they should, try and trip players when calls don't go their
way, shove them in the back when the game is all but over, and in
general lack discipline. They get up for one game a year (UK) and expect
to be patted on the back for losing... again.
Mississippi State is
likely the second most talented team in the SEC behind UK. Yet somehow
they manage to lose to LSU, Auburn, and GA (at home)? Then they blow a
13 point halftime lead to UK in the Hump and all Stansbury has to say
(multiple times) is that Hood being out was huge. Oh, and that everyone
saw how hard his team fought... UK finished on a 20-4 run; that's not
Hood being out, that's not Miss St fighting hard, that's UK and
Calipari's will to win. As soon as Miss St. got behind, they all hung
their heads and acted like someone had stolen their tater tots. I think
Stansbury is certain that John Calipari stole his tater tots, which is
why his team lost. </div> </div><div style="width: 1px; height: 1px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font: 10pt sans-serif; text-align: left; text-transform: none; overflow: hidden;">
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The stats below show that KY played 6 guys with significant minutes, while MSU played 7. So lack of depth is an excuse KY can use, not MSU. We just looked like we have no depth because our guys are gassed so frequently from poor conditioning. ## Player Name FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF TP A TO BLK S MIN
03 Jones, Terrence..... f 5-12 0-1 1-3 5 1 6 3 11 1 2 1 1 33
14 Kidd-Gilchrist, M... f 7-12 0-1 4-5 1 9 10 0 18 1 1 2 2 36
23 Davis, Anthony...... f 4-9 0-2 5-6 3 8 11 1 13 1 1 2 2 38
20 Lamb, Doron......... g 3-9 1-3 4-4 0 1 1 0 11 2 0 0 1 33
25 Teague, Marquis..... g 3-8 2-3 0-0 0 2 2 4 8 2 3 0 0 23
01 Miller, Darius...... 3-7 3-6 3-3 0 3 3 2 12 3 0 0 1 31
30 Vargas, Eloy........ 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
33 Wiltjer, Kyle....... 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 4 01 Renardo Sidney...... f 1-6 1-2 0-2 0 1 1 4 3 1 0 0 1 21
23 Arnett Moultrie..... f 6-10 0-1 1-1 3 8 11 2 13 2 3 2 0 39
03 Dee Bost............ g 5-15 3-6 8-8 0 2 2 4 21 7 3 0 4 38
04 Rodney Hood......... g 2-6 2-4 0-0 1 1 2 1 6 0 1 0 0 12
22 Brian Bryant........ g 3-6 0-0 0-2 0 5 5 1 6 2 1 1 0 35
00 Jalen Steele........ 4-8 3-7 2-2 0 1 1 2 13 1 2 0 0 33
10 Shaun Smith......... 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
30 Wendell Lewis....... 1-3 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 3 2 0 1 1 0 19
33 DeVille Smith....... 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 2We played 6, they played 6.
And you think Bost and Moultrie are gassed at the end of games from "poor conditioning" and not because they play 38 minutes a game. Dubmass, again.
And you think Bost and Moultrie are gassed at the end of games from "poor conditioning" and not because they play 38 minutes a game. Dubmass, again.
Actually, I was considering anything over 10 minutes (25% of the game) as significant. So according to that, Hood played Significant minutes. Kentucky used 6 players to fill 194 minutes of a 200 minute game; MSU used 7 players to fill 197 minutes. So any idiot can see that MSU showed more depth than KY last night. I guess I understand why you don't get it.
As for Bost and Moultrie being "gassed", I'm sure they are just as gassed as Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist. Yet, we don't hear the constant fatigue excuses for these guys.
Maybe, if you took your lips off of Stansbury's taint for any amount of time, you'd be able to see the light of day and what this program really is.
As for Bost and Moultrie being "gassed", I'm sure they are just as gassed as Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist. Yet, we don't hear the constant fatigue excuses for these guys.
Maybe, if you took your lips off of Stansbury's taint for any amount of time, you'd be able to see the light of day and what this program really is.
Sid played 1 min over half of the game and it wasn't because he was gassed. Just go watch the game again and look at the fouls called on Sid and look at non calls even some of them on Sid. It is a joke the way BB is called. After one of the BS calls the refs made two of our guys including Sid mauled a man and we knocked the ball out of bounds and they gave us the ball. When we went to the other end of the floor they called another nick pick foul on guess who.
Granted you have to play through this kind of thing and when you get a total BS call like the two men fouling Lewis on the dunk you can't get a T but over time these crap calls get to you. KY played a better game the second half but they also had help the second half.
Granted you have to play through this kind of thing and when you get a total BS call like the two men fouling Lewis on the dunk you can't get a T but over time these crap calls get to you. KY played a better game the second half but they also had help the second half.
If Hood had not got hurt, he would have played his normal 34-36 minutes a game instead of 12. But since he got hurt, we had to play Lewis (someone who would never even sniff KY's bench but he's your example of great depth) and Steele a LOT MORE than we wanted to. So that gave them, especially Lewis, a lot more "significant" playing time. So your argument is that since Hood got hurt, we played more people more minutes and therefore should be better because we had more depth. That is so 17ing dumb.
So just to be clear, your argument is that we were a better team when Hood got injured. Dumb17.
Maybe if you would take Coach34's scrotum out of your mouth for a second, you could get a clue.
So just to be clear, your argument is that we were a better team when Hood got injured. Dumb17.
Maybe if you would take Coach34's scrotum out of your mouth for a second, you could get a clue.
This whole argument was started because you wanted to contribute part of the loss to MSU being exhausted, hence we don't have the depth to compete with KY. Now, you're spinning it to a question of talent. Everyone knows KY is more talented. I was arguing your point of exhaustion/depth by saying MSU played 7 guys to KY's 6. Even if you take out Hood's injury and reduce Lewis's minutes, you're still left with 6 guys on each team getting significant minutes, regardless of talent.
Quit trying to spin your argument in your favor, you were wrong, plain and simple. All you're left with is distorting the truth.
Now, who's the dumbass/moron/dumb17?
The simple fact is that MSU played with a little more depth than KY did; however, they played with more talent (players and coaches), and they won.
Quit trying to spin your argument in your favor, you were wrong, plain and simple. All you're left with is distorting the truth.
Now, who's the dumbass/moron/dumb17?
The simple fact is that MSU played with a little more depth than KY did; however, they played with more talent (players and coaches), and they won.
How any coach with half a brain would allow a player to openly walk down the court???
How is the media not eating this **** up? ...because stansbury is a nice guy
I still had 3 people tell me to my face today, man Sidney played hard last night didn't ...he walked down the court with 2 mins gone in the 2nd half
How is the media not eating this **** up? ...because stansbury is a nice guy
I still had 3 people tell me to my face today, man Sidney played hard last night didn't ...he walked down the court with 2 mins gone in the 2nd half
UK is much more athletic. Once they smelled blood it was over. The refs missed some calls in key moments that went against us. Hood not playing WAS a factor.
It was a single thing that lead to us losing but a combination of the above. It all falls on Stans, sure, but I didn't see him out there making the calls the refs did, colliding with Hood or recruiting those kids for Cal. Some of y'all are ridiculous.
It was a single thing that lead to us losing but a combination of the above. It all falls on Stans, sure, but I didn't see him out there making the calls the refs did, colliding with Hood or recruiting those kids for Cal. Some of y'all are ridiculous.
Just because some skinny white kid (who isn't the coach's son) is sitting on the end of the bench doesn't mean we have depth. You have to have 'talented' depth. We have NONE. Haven't ALL YEAR. That's why we fade late in ALMOST EVERY BALLGAME WE PLAY. It's not the moronic reasons the sheep on here love like "the Stansbury Stall" or "Stans can't coach" or "Sidney doesn't care" (well maybe a little with that one).
If we had one decent player coming off the bench, we would be a great team. Now we are a good team that fades late in almost every game. You don't have to be 17ing Kentucky to wear us out.
Just remember, your argument is that we were a better team once Hood got hurt, because we played more people, therefore, more depth. <-- stupid
If we had one decent player coming off the bench, we would be a great team. Now we are a good team that fades late in almost every game. You don't have to be 17ing Kentucky to wear us out.
Really? Your boy coach34 and fish were on here last night saying we had just as much talent. Of course that's when we were winning and they needed something to deflect.
Just remember, your argument is that we were a better team once Hood got hurt, because we played more people, therefore, more depth. <-- stupid
if our top 6 played roughly the same amount of minutes as their top 6 and our top 6 were pretty clearly gassed at the end of the game and their's weren't, are you saying that the "talent" of the players on their team somehow was the thing that got them in better cardiovascular shape than our guys?
He's not saying that when we lost Hood we were better. He's saying that we had more players that played significant minutes when compared to Kentucky<div>
</div><div>This goes against the argument that Kentucky having more talented depth is what won them the game. Not that we were better because we had more players.</div><div>
</div><div>C34, Fishwater and many others were not saying we are just as talented as Ky... they have said on numerous occasions that Ky is more talented but the gap is not as large as people claim.</div><div>
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</div><div>This goes against the argument that Kentucky having more talented depth is what won them the game. Not that we were better because we had more players.</div><div>
</div><div>C34, Fishwater and many others were not saying we are just as talented as Ky... they have said on numerous occasions that Ky is more talented but the gap is not as large as people claim.</div><div>
</div><div>It's not that hard to get...</div>
perch0 said:
1- Baby Huey was gassed. He is gassed after the first 4 min of play. He then stays that was for much of the game, then really let's it show in the 12-4min left point of the game...when he is even able to be on the court during that time.
2- the refs let both teams play...a little too much. The funniest no call was when Jones took it to the the rim, Sidney slid in his way, and Jones bounced off of Sidney like a racquetball. No foul on either player apparently. It's not often that a 250# forward trampolines like that.