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CatsFanGG24

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Jones doesn't have to declare if he has reached $5k in contributions or expenses from what I have read. If you have $5k in either you are a candidate.

Did his state travels cost $5k when he was kissing babies and talking, Mitch, Please?

Is his book a campaign against MM - has he mentioned that he is NOT running? Is the book payment a campaign contribution of negative ad against MM? Is it over $5k?

All we know is that the lawyers for the TV & Iheart had no intention of fighting this...and that adds legitimacy to the claims.
 
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CatsFanGG24 said:
Jones doesn't have to declare if he has reached $5k in contributions or expenses from what I have read. If you have $5k in either you are a candidate.

Did his state travels cost $5k when he was kissing babies and talking, Mitch, Please?

Is his book a campaign against MM - has he mentioned that he is NOT running? Is the book payment a campaign contribution of negative ad against MM? Is it over $5k?

All we know is that the lawyers for the TV & Iheart had no intention of fighting this...and that adds legitimacy to the claims.
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Why would Iheart fight it to gain at most another 2 weeks or so of him on the air? If he announces his candidacy (and he will within the next week I am guessing), they have to pull him anyway. Besides, there is no where to fight it. The FEC can't meet because they don't have enough members. They don't have enough members because Mitch has refused to appoint any of the nominations.

So in the course of my normal job, I travel through out the state and I discuss Mitch, Bevin, etc with the people I meet with? I have earned over $5k during that time, does that make me a candidate for office even though I will never ever file for it?
 
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Why would Iheart fight it to gain at most another 2 weeks or so of him on the air? If he announces his candidacy (and he will within the next week I am guessing), they have to pull him anyway. Besides, there is no where to fight it. The FEC can't meet because they don't have enough members. They don't have enough members because Mitch has refused to appoint any of the nominations.

So in the course of my normal job, I travel through out the state and I discuss Mitch, Bevin, etc with the people I meet with? I have earned over $5k during that time, does that make me a candidate for office even though I will never ever file for it?
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Well 2 things - if it is no big deal to Iheart OR MJs potential run, he'd still be on air. Period. As you said, nowhere to fight it, but MJ backed off IMMEDIATELY.

Second: Money raised and spent to test the waters does not count toward this dollar threshold ($5,000) until the individual decides to run for federal office or conducts activities that indicate he or she is actively campaigning rather than testing the waters.

If you have $9700 in "Matt Jones for Kentucky" exploratory committee fees in the past couple months, publicly mention a desire to run (and for a specific seat & against a specific person), continue to state a decision would be coming and hasn't been made yet AND then start writing a book about your opponent, travel the state to discuss your political views, why your opponent is bad and what you would do & needs to be done, then yes, you'd qualify as a candidate.

When you start piling all of the items together it looks much like conducting activities towards an active campaign (for and against someone).
 
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Well 2 things - if it is no big deal to Iheart OR MJs potential run, he'd still be on air. Period. As you said, nowhere to fight it, but MJ backed off IMMEDIATELY.

Second: Money raised and spent to test the waters does not count toward this dollar threshold ($5,000) until the individual decides to run for federal office or conducts activities that indicate he or she is actively campaigning rather than testing the waters.

If you have $9700 in "Matt Jones for Kentucky" exploratory committee fees in the past couple months, publicly mention a desire to run (and for a specific seat & against a specific person), continue to state a decision would be coming and hasn't been made yet AND then start writing a book about your opponent, travel the state to discuss your political views, why your opponent is bad and what you would do & needs to be done, then yes, you'd qualify as a candidate.

When you start piling all of the items together it looks much like conducting activities towards an active campaign (for and against someone).
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Quite honestly, how it "looks" has no bearing. Secondly, Matt filed his form for the exploratory committee to be transparent. He had no legal right to do so and the person who filed on his behalf filed the wrong one. He filed form 1 when he should have filed form 2. If Matt was truly trying to take advantage of things, he wouldn't have filed a form in the first place. Without that form, he has to report nothing. Doing what he felt was the transparent and right thing is what Mitch is using against him.
 
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TCurtis75 said:
Quite honestly, how it "looks" has no bearing. Secondly, Matt filed his form for the exploratory committee to be transparent. He had no legal right to do so and the person who filed on his behalf filed the wrong one. He filed form 1 when he should have filed form 2. If Matt was truly trying to take advantage of things, he wouldn't have filed a form in the first place. Without that form, he has to report nothing. Doing what he felt was the transparent and right thing is what Mitch is using against him.
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How it looks does matter because how it looks indicates he is conducting campaign activities...I don’t even know how you could argue this.

You truly believe MJ has never taken any action to further his candidacy or campaign/campaign activities vs McGrath/McConnell and will not do so until he formally declares? Come on :joy:

And quite honestly, filing the wrong form might be an indication that they aren’t quite sure whats proper and improper...not really a great start.
 
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How it looks does matter because how it looks indicates he is conducting campaign activities...I don’t even know how you could argue this.

You truly believe MJ has never taken any action to further his candidacy or campaign/campaign activities vs McGrath/McConnell and will not do so until he formally declares? Come on :joy:

And quite honestly, filing the wrong form might be an indication that they aren’t quite sure whats proper and improper...not really a great start.
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To you it looks like he’s conducting a campaign. To me and others, it looks like he is researching a book while considering a campaign. How it looks to you does not trump how it looks to others. So how it looks subjective and open to interpretation and should not warrant any sort of complaint like Mitch filed.

The person who filed it made a mistake and has since been replaced. The fact that Matt took a step that most politicians don’t take in filing the exploratory papers shows me that he is getting started on the right foot and truly wants to help make change if he does indeed run.
 
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TCurtis75 said:
To you it looks like he’s conducting a campaign. To me and others, it looks like he is researching a book while considering a campaign. How it looks to you does not trump how it looks to others. So how it looks subjective and open to interpretation and should not warrant any sort of complaint like Mitch filed.

The person who filed it made a mistake and has since been replaced. The fact that Matt took a step that most politicians don’t take in filing the exploratory papers shows me that he is getting started on the right foot and truly wants to help make change if he does indeed run.
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Lol got it.

McGrath AND McConnell, Dems/GOP we’re both wrong and had no basis in their complaints and are picking on MJ.

good luck in your campaign (that hasn’t started yet, showing no indication that there could be a campaign and clearly, clearly hasn’t been pushed prior to a formal announcement) and glad everything started off on the right foot.

also interesting that the person who filed has been replaced...another indication of a campaign to be run? No, no...I’m sure there could just be another exploratory committee or something.
 
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CatsFanGG24 said:
Jones doesn't have to declare if he has reached $5k in contributions or expenses from what I have read. If you have $5k in either you are a candidate.

Did his state travels cost $5k when he was kissing babies and talking, Mitch, Please?

Is his book a campaign against MM - has he mentioned that he is NOT running? Is the book payment a campaign contribution of negative ad against MM? Is it over $5k?

All we know is that the lawyers for the TV & Iheart had no intention of fighting this...and that adds legitimacy to the claims.
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He took out a loan for atleast this much and spent it..some congressman not even from KY put it on twitter a few weeks ago. I'll try to find it...but it didnt get much traction bc no one knew who matt was.
 
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https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00718908/

Interesting website. Shows the campaign exploratory committee has spent almost $10,000. Looks like Matt Jones himself put all the money into the committee. Paid $9,000 for Spiros Consulting and a little over $700 for Priceline.

Its kinda sad looking at McConnell and McGraths pages. Pretty much all donations listed are from out of state. I guess its to be expected though.
 
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Super psyched about another Matt Jones thread on the board. Looking forward to original takes.

if he doesn't run: Ha. What a coward. he knowed he'd get beat by Mitch. Stick to sports dumass. just a publisity stunt.

or

if he's running: What a idiot. Mitch is gunna beet his *** so bad he'll lose everything.
 
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funKYcat75 said:
Super psyched about another Matt Jones thread on the board. Looking forward to original takes.

if he doesn't run: Ha. What a coward. he knowed he'd get beat by Mitch. Stick to sports dumass

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if he's running: What a idiot. Mitch is gunna beet his *** so bad he'll lose everything.
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That's exactly what it's going to happen. Nobody can be objective.
 
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TCurtis75 said:
Quite honestly, how it "looks" has no bearing. Secondly, Matt filed his form for the exploratory committee to be transparent. He had no legal right to do so and the person who filed on his behalf filed the wrong one. He filed form 1 when he should have filed form 2. If Matt was truly trying to take advantage of things, he wouldn't have filed a form in the first place. Without that form, he has to report nothing. Doing what he felt was the transparent and right thing is what Mitch is using against him.
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So Matt and his campaign don't even know the form to file? That should give Kentuckians confidence. But when you are running a publicity stunt the right form doesn't really matter .
 
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I am stupid said:
https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00718908/

Interesting website. Shows the campaign exploratory committee has spent almost $10,000. Looks like Matt Jones himself put all the money into the committee. Paid $9,000 for Spiros Consulting and a little over $700 for Priceline.

Its kinda sad looking at McConnell and McGraths pages. Pretty much all donations listed are from out of state. I guess its to be expected though.
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When you are the most powerful man in the senate and are Majority Leader you are a national figure. It is important for all Americans that want conservative judges for McConnell to remain in office. The old lady is about to exit the stage and we need the most conservative judge in America to take that seat. This is what McConnell will bring us and both Jones and McGrath would be in the way of that. They would obstruct just like all Democrats obstruct.
 
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He made a smart call as he didn't have a snowball's chance in the pit of winning. Besides, I simply cannot fathom how he, matt mcgrath or anyone else for that matter is a better candidate than Mitch. How many states in the union wouldn't love to have one of their senators as Majority Leader????

Only hillury types.
 
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It's going to be Cameron in 2026, so Jones might want to consider school board or something.
 
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ram1955 said:
No problem with free speech but that doesn't mean you can use media that someone else owns at your beck and call.. We can criticize elected officials all we want. However, there are campaign rules that must be followed. Business, such as the radio station, producers, sponsors, whatever have the right to decide what is on their stations. Has nothing to do with free speech. If he wants to go out on the street corner right now and blast away at other pols, he can do so.
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Wow. "Nothing to do with free speech" = being taken off the airwaves due to political speech. That's exactly what free speech is. As I've said like 3 times in this thread, you either believe in free speech or you don't. The "campaign rules" that you refer to are literally regulations on speech. You support regulations on speech, I don't. Agree to disagree.
 
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The true democrat party shows itself again. After Jones decides not to run- heres a democrat strategist...already excuses


 
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