Part of the problem is Butler, Oweh, and Williams probably go to the line the most, and they might be the three worst FT shooters on the team.
Kentucky vs. Clemson Game Thread
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I’m gonna be honest outside of brea I don’t think any of them are overly good shooters
It was a tougher matchup than some are acting like .
But we were also out matched vs Duke.
And tbh, I don't think we were outmatched vs this team or out talented. We simply don't have shot creators. Like at all.
You can't win on the road against a great team when you shoot like that.
Offensively he needs to become more of a traditional back to the basket guy. Gotta cut out those possessions where he "drives" from the top of the key.
What are you smoking? We have zero chance to win it all. Let's hope we make March Madness and hopefully get to round of 32. If we do that we will have had a great job of coaching by Pope. We have to be more realistic and just enjoy what we have after getting the entire squad depleted.
We will see more intensity in every SEC road game. Remember guys, it is hard to win on the road. I think we beat Clemson by 5 in Rupp. Clemson will be one of the better ACC teams this year. It is not a disgrace to loose to Clemson on the road.
I feel like we have a lot of experienced guys here. Not to say they couldn't improve but after years of track records I tend to just think they are what they are.
Like Williams
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Going forward I'm going to assume he's going to shoot in the 60s.
Amari Williams - 9 pts, 11 Rebs
Lamont Butler - 16, 5 assists
Otega Oweh - 17 pts, 7 Rebs
Jaxson Robinson - 12 pts, 4 Rebs
Andrew Carr - 5 pts, 5 Rebs
Bench - 4 players combined for 7 pts, 6 Rebs.
Thats the tiers on who came to play tonight. Pope was tight with his rotation. I’m guessing he’s going to say that he went with who he thought could defend the best.
Lamont Butler - 16, 5 assists
Otega Oweh - 17 pts, 7 Rebs
Jaxson Robinson - 12 pts, 4 Rebs
Andrew Carr - 5 pts, 5 Rebs
Bench - 4 players combined for 7 pts, 6 Rebs.
Thats the tiers on who came to play tonight. Pope was tight with his rotation. I’m guessing he’s going to say that he went with who he thought could defend the best.
Other than Butler did anybody play well?
Oweh mostly
Oweh mostly
The bigger issue was missing the open three when creation actually did occur.
Meh… I’m not too worried about it. Frenzied crowd, many, many curious calls by the refs, uncharacteristic poor shooting night from the floor and the FT line, perhaps a mistake not getting Brea more minutes in the second half, and to top it all off we had an opponent YET AGAIN bank in a prayer of a 3 point shot… and we only lost by 4 points.
Plenty of easy fixes here and this game is a win. Time to move on to Gonzaga.
Plenty of easy fixes here and this game is a win. Time to move on to Gonzaga.
Is Clemson great though? I don’t think Clemson is great, they’re alright, Kentucky just sucked for the third game In a row.
This has always been the thing. But he has to get a pass this year since he literally could not recruit.
But yeah.......ultimately you need good coaching but that could only take you so far. You still need some top tier guys.
You can tell even when a slow player playing hard. I never felt like we were playing hard. It looked like we believed we could start making 3s whenever we wanted to win the game and we didn't.
And too much dribbling. And too much holding the ball. Other teams have quickly figured out UK is no threat inside so they don’t double down.
I’ve never been his biggest fan even going back to when he signed, but he’s just not been good at all so far this year. We knew he was going to be a trade defense for offense kind of guy anyway, but he’s shooting 28% from the field. He’s been a total bust so far, and he hurt us a lot tonight when Butler was battling injuries and fouls.
Is it me or tell me how many times did we give up a drive to the basket with no weak side help???!!!
He receives the ball too far from the basket and when he tries to back his man down, he dribbles the ball to far from his body. I cringe every time he gets the ball.
Not sure how he could be with what we’ve gotten from Kriisa so far. maybe a good time to see if he can ever play at this level or if he’s more of a mid-major type kid. And there’s no shame in that if he is.
it was our first road test in a crazy environment. This was nothing like a Cal loss to me. Pope played his rotation trying to keep the guys fresh and mindful of their foul situation.
Yeah the bench was rough, I wish we got a four minute stretch of Chandler just to see how he looked. I would put Williams in the second tier with Robinson.
He doesn’t want us to be the only loser. He wants us to have some company so we don’t stand out so much.
I could live without him bringing the ball up the court but Shieflin or whatever his name was - was on him most of the night and he couldn't stop him. The big russian guy was focused on Carr
Would like to have seen more Brea les Kerr.
Nothing that happened this game changes my mind about what I think this team can accomplish this year tho. This was a coinflip game. All predictions said it would be.
And the game was back and forth. Both teams went on runs.
Strangely, this the FULL GAME into account, I feel better about this than I did the Duke game. The Duke game we were completely overmatched the majority of the game.
This wasn't that at all.
And the game was back and forth. Both teams went on runs.
Strangely, this the FULL GAME into account, I feel better about this than I did the Duke game. The Duke game we were completely overmatched the majority of the game.
This wasn't that at all.
Let's debate the word great until midnight. You're obviously up for that.
They're not great. I'm tired, and meant to use the word good, but I want you to focus on that word, because that's what matters right now, right?
That could be fair. Williams made some TO’s. I was just thinking that #4 would have had 35 Rebs if not for Amari
I get what you're saying. Just felt like Pope had no answers. I'm not panicking. Pope is s good coach. Just didn't have it tonight. Happens to all coaches. Could be worse....could be UConn.
Just lowering expectations a bit. And worried about the physicality of the SEC.
We’ll see i guess. I haven’t seen anybody that much better when we’re playing well. Think you’re putting way too much stock into losing on the road to a good team. We weren’t going 40-0.
We basically got nothing from any of the bench players and Carr was terrible, along with Amaris numerous turnovers. Rebounding and free throw shooting killed us!
Rough night. Lots of contact. Less than optimum officiating. 3s weren't falling and the inside game was ugly.
We’ll know much more about this loss in Feb/March. I think Clemson is a tournament team.
I still think we finish around 21-10 to 23-8. Thanks very good in today’s P5 conferences. SEC is loaded this year
I still think we finish around 21-10 to 23-8. Thanks very good in today’s P5 conferences. SEC is loaded this year
Bringing up Uconn is a great point tho.
Hurley.......the guy a lot of people wanted as coach on this board. The guy who's team won back to back National Titles. That team has lost 3 in a row. And their schedule isn't going to get any easier any time soon.
It happens to even good coaches.
Pope's system has put a good bit of playmaking pressure on our 5's. Garrison and Williams just don't quite fit that mold.