Kentucky vs. UNC
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It's so difficult to watch a game where you want both teams to somehow find a way to lose (though I did feel for the fans on whoever was going to lose ... well, just a bit).
Just thankful it was not a title game - that is always the worst case scenario in a given season.
But, both are certainly uber talented and #1 seed calibre teams. I dislike this UK team a lot less than the one that went 38-0 a couple of years back. These guards of theirs are super entertaining to watch (unlike the sulky Harrison twins). Monk is obviously the real deal. So is Justin Jackson on UNC.
Neither one is an easy beat. Nor is UCLA. There are a number of quality teams this year with Duke, 'Nova, UCLA, UK, UNC, Kansas and, I guess, Baylor (not really sure how good they will be). Even IU and L'Ville.
This is shaping up to be an epic Blue Blood year for CBB. You really can't get much more tradition in the top 11. And even the Zags have become a long standing traditional power team and this could be their best team ever - though they often flatter-to-deceive when ranked high early.
Just thankful it was not a title game - that is always the worst case scenario in a given season.
But, both are certainly uber talented and #1 seed calibre teams. I dislike this UK team a lot less than the one that went 38-0 a couple of years back. These guards of theirs are super entertaining to watch (unlike the sulky Harrison twins). Monk is obviously the real deal. So is Justin Jackson on UNC.
Neither one is an easy beat. Nor is UCLA. There are a number of quality teams this year with Duke, 'Nova, UCLA, UK, UNC, Kansas and, I guess, Baylor (not really sure how good they will be). Even IU and L'Ville.
This is shaping up to be an epic Blue Blood year for CBB. You really can't get much more tradition in the top 11. And even the Zags have become a long standing traditional power team and this could be their best team ever - though they often flatter-to-deceive when ranked high early.
UK has played to good teams and they both scores 100. What that truly means remains to be seen. With the game on the line, no one on UNC is shadowing Monk. How he gets that ball, initially wide open on the wing, after last years NC game is beyond me.
If Giles is healthy, I see UNC and UK having a really hard time keeping their bigs on the floor based on foul trouble vs. Duke.
Some of you guys need to stop dissing Big Luke. If Big Luke hits a last second 3 to nip us at the buzzer after Meeks and Hicks have fouled out, I am going to lobby for a minimum 1 year ban for Skysdad et.al. for the biggest jinx in Duke history!
If Giles is healthy, I see UNC and UK having a really hard time keeping their bigs on the floor based on foul trouble vs. Duke.
Some of you guys need to stop dissing Big Luke. If Big Luke hits a last second 3 to nip us at the buzzer after Meeks and Hicks have fouled out, I am going to lobby for a minimum 1 year ban for Skysdad et.al. for the biggest jinx in Duke history!
I see Duke's guards having a lot more trouble defending Monk and Fox than UNC's did. Not saying Monk will be as hot as he was yesterday, but he'll have the opportunity imo. I think Fox should have an easier time getting to the rim as well. Duke's guards are slow and don't have a history of playing solid defense in the first place.
Monk was great, Fox played about average for himself, everyone else had a subpar game. Adebayo never really got a chance. If he can stay out of foul trouble he's a top 3 big man in the country.
Having said that, Duke is one of three teams that scares me come tournament time.
Monk was great, Fox played about average for himself, everyone else had a subpar game. Adebayo never really got a chance. If he can stay out of foul trouble he's a top 3 big man in the country.
Having said that, Duke is one of three teams that scares me come tournament time.
I'd go UCLA, Nova, Uk, Kansas, Duke UNC and I don't think Indiana is even decent.
Of course you'd put UK there, but they have one pretty big weakness right now: defending.
No they don't lol. It could be better, and probably will, but I'll guarantee you 80 percent plus "experts" would say UK is a better defensive team than Duke. You can't just look at points allowed lol.
Not just looking at points allowed, not sure where you derived that from. I'm looking at how they don't have much defensive presence in the paint, particularly at the 4, and their guards, while quick, are pretty easily broken down. I know, Briscoe is a stud defender (supposedly) but I just watched Jackson tear him apart. I'd pay to see him try to check Tatum. Then again many uk experts were calling Gabriel as a lock at the 3. His defense has been a bit suspect as well. UK has a long way to go defensively; you simply can't just outscore everyone at this level (UCLA showed that comfortably).
Anyone have a GIF of Ol Roy hitting his player with his suit jacket?
It does have a long way to go, but the Duke guards are physically incapable of being a top 100 perimeter defense. It's not just me saying this, it's pretty much everyone.
Your not a better defensive team than Duke though especially since we are getting healthy. Gabriel is soft at the four spot. For how quick fox and monk are they seem to easily get beat off the dribble. Briscoe was torched by jackson . Then go back and look at how easily ucla scored against them
If you seriously feel this way you need to watch basketball
Actually Matt and Frank are good on defense . Sure Grayson and Luke will struggle some on d but they are playing better as of late
Who exactly is everyone? The same people who still think the 2015 UK was way better than the 2015 national champion Duke team? I'm all for backing your favorite team, but you're just saying things with no substance.
UK can score with anyone, problem is, they can't stop anything much higher than a "good" offense. UCLA and UNC picked them apart, but fortunately for you, they play in the soft SEC so the weakness should be hidden until the NCAA's....
I honestly think Duke is a tougher matchup for unc than UK is for the reasons you mentioned..also I dont feel like duke needs someone going off for 50 points to win either, I think the weapons in the frontcourt are much more formidable. UNC played most that game yesterday without Hicks on the floor.
Sorry but from what I've seen ucla is the best team in the country as of right now. Hands down the best backcourt in the country and very good skilled bigs. Until we beat a big time opponent, I also put Nova and hate to say it but U.K. ahead of us as well. Obviously I think that will change once everyone is back and we start to gel but that's the way I see it as of right now.
They are not going to put a 100 on you because you are not going to run with the other team to allow that pace.
About as "original" as Tar Heel excuses for losses.Theo was happy and jivin w/the rest of the bench when Jackson went to the FT line to attempt to give you a 3 pt lead. Then you got another chance when Maye tapped the ball out to really put the hammer down. Face it, you just got beat....
OFC
Where did this troll come from?!! You UK people always go with this idea that Duke won't be able to guard Fox and Monk because they are just too quick and fast. Well good thing it isn't a 100m race then, right? Yeah, Fox would just get to the rim at will, huh? Jefferson and Giles would have nothing in the lane, right?? Lol.
"Everyone" is you UK turds. Over the years Duke has been known for their defense, guess you missed it.
Whos making excuses? the kid dropped 50 points and they needed every last one of them to barely hold on. Im hardly crying in my count chocula over losing that game.
Imo UNC will be where they belong come Monday...Out of the top 10 lol You slow the game down against them, they are slightly above average in my eyes.
Now UCLA scares me a little
Now UCLA scares me a littleThey were up 8 to 10 mostly the whole game
Lol. ok. and Unc was ahead by 4 with one minute left, whats your point?Whatever you need to tell yourself to downplay UNC, thats fine I expect it to some extent. But do realize we played most that game without Hicks and our starting 2 guard. No excuses, its what it is.
Valid point - I bet k would throw the kitchen sink, including zone variety, to get the pace of game he wanted.
Yet you keep making excuses, lol...
1/Theo would've stopped Monk
2/ foul trouble
Whats next??
There is no excuse. Kentucky won a great game in which both teams showed why they are two of the best teams in the ncaa.
It was an entertaining game; but as someone said, there wasn't a whole lot of coaching that took place. K slows the pace down and neither team can handle all our weapons. I like how Duke matches up across the board with both these teams. I'm interested to see how UNX does vs Northern Iowa again this year. Slow the Holes down to a half court game and I think they're beatable by a lot of teams.
Awwwwww. Must be terrible not having all your players in the game . To quote Bud Kilmer " Cry me a river YA fat Fu*#ing baby!"
Here is the gif, GoDuke. It has a local weather advisory graphic on it...which I changed...just slightly.
OFC
Haha Im not using these as excuses and I never stated anywhere that Theo wouldve "stopped" Monk. However even a blind man can see hes a much better matchup defensively for Monk than anyone else on our roster. The foul trouble isnt an excuse either as UNC left a lot of points at the line so they shot themselves in the foot I had no problem with the refs at all except the one Roy got a tech on which was Hicks 3rd foul.
Youre the one saying Im making excuses, Im not. Stating facts.
No ones making excuses. But to say we aren't a top 10 or are barely above average is completely false. I don't think we will drop out of the top 10 given that we were one free throw away from winning that game. If I were a Duke fan I wouldn't underestimate us or Kentucky.
I don't underestimate either team. However, I like our team more. I believe that if we slow things down and execute, we can beat both teams. They could beat us too, but I back my team.
K > Cal and Roy.
K > Cal and Roy.
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