Kiffin to Bama rumors heating up again

onewoof

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$2M buyout after this season for Kiffin, is that correct?

Would Bama really pay $70M to get rid of Deboer?
 
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patdog

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They should have hired Kiffin last time. And yes, they'll pay the $70M in a heartbeat unless Deboer really turns it around this year.
 
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RivaDawg

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If they hire Kiffin, you know he is going to troll the hell out of Saban every chance he gets.
 
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dawgstudent

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$2M buyout after this season for Kiffin, is that correct?

Would Bama really pay $70M to get rid of Deboer?
Google says...


If Kiffin Leaves Ole Miss
  • 2024: Kiffin would owe the foundation $4 million if he leaves before December 31, 2024.
  • 2025: The buyout amount decreases to $3 million.
  • 2026: The buyout decreases to $2 million.
  • Thereafter: The buyout levels off at $1.5 million.
 

Faustdog

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Google says...


If Kiffin Leaves Ole Miss
  • 2024: Kiffin would owe the foundation $4 million if he leaves before December 31, 2024.
  • 2025: The buyout amount decreases to $3 million.
  • 2026: The buyout decreases to $2 million.
  • Thereafter: The buyout levels off at $1.5 million.
Those are wildly low buyouts for Kiffin. How on earth does everyone seem so sure he's "made his home" in Oxford if those are the buyouts he's negotiated. You know OM would have preferred more.
 

dawgstudent

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  1. I don't think Alabama is paying $70 MM to get rid of DeBoer.
  2. Whenever that job comes open, I don't think they're hiring Kiffin.
Why would you not hire Kiffin? He's ridiculously successful but I'm not 100% sold he would even leave Ole Miss. He seems comfortable. Just depends on how bad he wants to win a national championship. Ole Miss will pay him as they have done in the past.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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AL will definitely hire a new coach if DeBoer ends up losing another game to an unranked team. 9-3 don't cut it at Bama. Not when they're throwing around this much money. They won't think twice about paying out his contract to get a better coach.

You can tell DeBoer knows he's in over his head. Looks very uncomfortable talking to the press about AL football.

That said: No way in hell Kiffin leaves Ole Miss. He's got the best set up any coach could have.

Now OM might be stupid enough to run Kiffin off when he chokes in the playoffs or just misses the playoffs. But he will win them and SEC title at some point and maybe even a National Championship. If he cares enough to grind for it.
 

patdog

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AL will definitely hire a new coach if DeBoer ends up losing another game to an unranked team. 9-3 don't cut it at Bama. Not when they're throwing around this much money. They won't think twice about paying out his contract to get a better coach.

You can tell DeBoer knows he's in over his head. Looks very uncomfortable talking to the press about AL football.

That said: No way in hell Kiffin leaves Ole Miss. He's got the best set up any coach could have.

Now OM might be stupid enough to run Kiffin off when he chokes in the playoffs or just misses the playoffs. But he will win them and SEC title at some point and maybe even a National Championship. If he cares enough to grind for it.
Kiffin could win multiple national championships at Alabama. He can't win one at Mississippi.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Kiffin's no idiot. He wasn't following Saban.

Bama's problem is girly men playing for them. Most talented softest team I've ever seen.
That can be cured in an offseason.

See Croom to Mullen transition. Also the Moorhead to Leach one.
 

ckDOG

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Those are wildly low buyouts for Kiffin. How on earth does everyone seem so sure he's "made his home" in Oxford if those are the buyouts he's negotiated. You know OM would have preferred more.
OM fans are at good at messaging whether they believe their own BS or not. I wish we could do it.
 
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anon1758050382

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Why would you not hire Kiffin? He's ridiculously successful but I'm not 100% sold he would even leave Ole Miss. He seems comfortable. Just depends on how bad he wants to win a national championship. Ole Miss will pay him as they have done in the past.
According to "sources," Alabama will never hire Kiffin as HC. It may have something to do with his time there as OC.

Even if you don't buy that, he would have to choose to leave Ole Miss for Alabama. He is a better fit at Ole Miss. Alabama wouldn't let him be the brand. Alabama Football will always be the brand. Ole Miss doesn't have any historic success to speak of, so they let Kiffin be the brand.

It's working now for Ole Miss, but one day, he will not be their coach, and they'll be starting over, looking for an identity.
 

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If he were to go to Alabama one day, can you imagine the Alabama/Tennessee game? You just thought Tennessee acted up when he came back to Knoxville before.
 

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According to "sources," Alabama will never hire Kiffin as HC. It may have something to do with his time there as OC.

Even if you don't buy that, he would have to choose to leave Ole Miss for Alabama. He is a better fit at Ole Miss. Alabama wouldn't let him be the brand. Alabama Football will always be the brand. Ole Miss doesn't have any historic success to speak of, so they let Kiffin be the brand.

It's working now for Ole Miss, but one day, he will not be their coach, and they'll be starting over, looking for an identity.
That might’ve been true a few years back, but if Kiffin keeps stacking wins and Bama drops another one to an unranked team, the fanbase / administration will develop amnesia real quick.
 

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According to "sources," Alabama will never hire Kiffin as HC. It may have something to do with his time there as OC.

Even if you don't buy that, he would have to choose to leave Ole Miss for Alabama. He is a better fit at Ole Miss. Alabama wouldn't let him be the brand. Alabama Football will always be the brand. Ole Miss doesn't have any historic success to speak of, so they let Kiffin be the brand.

It's working now for Ole Miss, but one day, he will not be their coach, and they'll be starting over, looking for an identity.
There is something to this. Alabama wasn't the brand before Saban got there, but they are now.

Mullen learned the hard way too. He was the brand at MSU, at Florida, not so much.
 
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DoggieDaddy13

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According to "sources," Alabama will never hire Kiffin as HC. It may have something to do with his time there as OC.

Even if you don't buy that, he would have to choose to leave Ole Miss for Alabama. He is a better fit at Ole Miss. Alabama wouldn't let him be the brand. Alabama Football will always be the brand. Ole Miss doesn't have any historic success to speak of, so they let Kiffin be the brand.

It's working now for Ole Miss, but one day, he will not be their coach, and they'll be starting over, looking for an identity.
See, even pseudonym gets it.

Kiffin is the man at OM and ain't no OM booster giving him any grief - only shares, hookers, and blow. He's going to win just enough to keep them happy enough. 17ers got it made.
 

patdog

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See, even pseudonym gets it.

Kiffin is the man at OM and ain't no OM booster giving him any grief - only shares, hookers, and blow. He's going to win just enough to keep them happy enough. 17ers got it made.
No football coach worth a damn is going to be happy at a place where just getting close to the playoffs is good enough to keep everyone happy if he knows he can't win a championship there. He wants to go where he can win championships. Hell, he could have stayed at Florida Atlantic if he was afraid of expectations.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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No football coach worth a damn is going to be happy at a place where just getting close to the playoffs is good enough to keep everyone happy if he knows he can't win a championship there. He wants to go where he can win championships. Hell, he could have stayed at Florida Atlantic if he was afraid of expectations.
Kiffin is not worth a damn. That's my point. He's a manipulative ***, a pied piper, and OM is a village of idiots. He can play them however he wants. And he still might win a national championship in spite of himself and them.

because he's also a damn good coach and recruiter. the sumbich knows how to work the system.
 

patdog

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Kiffin is not worth a damn. That's my point. He's a manipulative ***, a pied piper, and OM is a village of idiots. He can play them however he wants. And he still might win a national championship in spite of himself and them.

because he's also a damn good coach and recruiter.
You really don't understand the drive and ambition it takes to win at this level. Kiffin is very ambitious. He appears to be happy where he is and he'll stay there unless he gets a real chance to win a national championship. But you can bet the farm he would love to win a championship and he knows he can't where he is now.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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You really don't understand the drive and ambition it takes to win at this level. Kiffin is very ambitious. He appears to be happy where he is and he'll stay there unless he gets a real chance to win a national championship. But you can bet the farm he would love to win a championship and he knows he can't where he is now.
You really don't understand the drive and ambition it takes to win at this level. Kiffin is very ambitious. He appears to be happy where he is and he'll stay there unless he gets a real chance to win a national championship. But you can bet the farm he would love to win a championship and he knows he can't where he is now.
I think he can win there. And he might.

If he's truly ambitious he may want to take a perennial loser and make a national champion out of them. That's how you become legend. Maybe two or three time national championships.

OM will come much closer to giving him a blue blood salary than we ever could.

What's little Dickie got to spend his money on these days?
 

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AL will definitely hire a new coach if DeBoer ends up losing another game to an unranked team. 9-3 don't cut it at Bama. Not when they're throwing around this much money. They won't think twice about paying out his contract to get a better coach.

You can tell DeBoer knows he's in over his head. Looks very uncomfortable talking to the press about AL football.

That said: No way in hell Kiffin leaves Ole Miss. He's got the best set up any coach could have.

Now OM might be stupid enough to run Kiffin off when he chokes in the playoffs or just misses the playoffs. But he will win them and SEC title at some point and maybe even a National Championship. If he cares enough to grind for it.
If I'm him, I'm looking up the post game presser after Saban lost to that directional LA school and taking some notes just in case...
 
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Kiffin is not worth a damn. That's my point. He's a manipulative ***, a pied piper, and OM is a village of idiots. He can play them however he wants. And he still might win a national championship in spite of himself and them.

because he's also a damn good coach and recruiter. the sumbich knows how to work the system.
I know it's unpopular to say on the board, but Kiffin has become a very good college coach and he could be a championship winner. He's more of a CEO than a hands-on guy, but he understands the modern college game because he was raised in an NFL environment. He's navigated NIL as good as any other college program since its inception. The results are there.

He's happy to leave defense to someone else, and he gets far too into his quarterback projects. But, if he had real money to spend, he'd get there.

As for where he could actually win a NC, certainly Bama would be easier. He would leave UM in a heartbeat for the opportunity.
 

Dawgzilla2

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There is something to this. Alabama wasn't the brand before Saban got there, but they are now.
No, I dont think you get it. To Alabama fans - at least most alums - Alabama football is bigger than any one person. They won their first Rose Bowl 100 years ago. They have statues of 5 different coaches outside their stadium. In their minds, all Bear and Saban did was maintain Alabama in its rightful place of football dominance.

Saban may have even been a little too flashy for them, and Kiffin is off the charts.

That said, if DeBoer doesnt get them into the playoffs this year, I think they could panic and go after the hottest available coach, even if that is Kiffin.

They wont pay $70 million as a buyout. They'll negotiate it down and pay in installments.
 

horshack.sixpack

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According to "sources," Alabama will never hire Kiffin as HC. It may have something to do with his time there as OC.

Even if you don't buy that, he would have to choose to leave Ole Miss for Alabama. He is a better fit at Ole Miss. Alabama wouldn't let him be the brand. Alabama Football will always be the brand. Ole Miss doesn't have any historic success to speak of, so they let Kiffin be the brand.

It's working now for Ole Miss, but one day, he will not be their coach, and they'll be starting over, looking for an identity.
They have an "identity" alright...
 

OG Goat Holder

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No, I dont think you get it. To Alabama fans - at least most alums - Alabama football is bigger than any one person. They won their first Rose Bowl 100 years ago. They have statues of 5 different coaches outside their stadium. In their minds, all Bear and Saban did was maintain Alabama in its rightful place of football dominance.

Saban may have even been a little too flashy for them, and Kiffin is off the charts.

That said, if DeBoer doesnt get them into the playoffs this year, I think they could panic and go after the hottest available coach, even if that is Kiffin.

They wont pay $70 million as a buyout. They'll negotiate it down and pay in installments.
I know that. I'm just talking in reality.
 

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Listening to Finebaum, sounds like Kiffin was not on the Bama short list, last go.
And, Saban did fire him, ...so.