You're absolutely right. We went to the 4 guard lineup and were 11 and 9. We put Kodi back in for the next 7 games starting with the Florida game and we go 6 and 1 with a 4 game run to the SEC Title and an NCAA birth. Kodi is absolute garbage.... Kodi gives this team a weak side rebounder and the length to defend against a true PF. If Kodi was playing on Pondexter yesterday as opposed to Phil Turner, we have a chance to win because Pondexter was clearing out Phil and shooting over the top of him uncontested. We need a guy like Kodi to play 4 for us. He can shoot, he got better defensively, he rebounds extremely well, and he now hustles back on the defensive end, which is something he did the entire game against Washington because I was there and saw him. I think if coach tells me that even though I'm playing pretty decent that he's gonna sit me for a 4th guard, I think I might have an attitude problem too.
Kodi Tells Veazy He Does Not Know If He's Coming Back
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I agree that we need him next year. we also need him to have his head on straight which seemed to be an issue with him this season. There is no doubt he is a good player. And if you think that kodi was pulled solely because Stansbury wanted to runa 4 guard line up you are kidding yourself. It is pretty obvious Koid did something to piss Stansbury off and was sat for a huge partof the season for itmstatefan88 said:
I'm sure there were other factors, because Kodi seems like the type of guy whos mouth could get him into trouble. But as many people on here have said, Charles Rhodes was very similar in this stage of his career. Kodi wants guaranteed playing time because he wants to contribute and knows he can help this team win. Some people are raised to handle situations differently and he probably grew up with everything basketball related handed to him without having to work for it because of how good he is. A guy like him probably thought he would be given the starting job without having to practive had or work much at it because thats what he did his whole life. Give him time to realize what he needs to do to be a starter in the SEC and hopefully he will work at his craft and get better at it and stay at State and benefit us for the next 2 years.
I don't really know why you guys still refer to it as a 4 guard lineup. Ravern is 6'7" w/ long arms, made that much longer by the fact that he elevates so high to shoot his jumper and has a pretty quick release, unlike Kodi.mstatefan88 said:
Also, Phil may be 6'3", but if you forget about his size for a second you'll realize that he's the best 4 we've got. I'd rather have him out there, he's a better defender and hustler in my opinion. It's not like his man was abusing us all season, and he rebounded pretty well also. Plus he can extend the defense more so than Kodi b/c he can shoot consistently from well beyond the arc, plus has a quicker release.
Have you EVER seen Ravern Johnson post up or defend the 4 of the other team? Absolutely not, and thats because he is a guard. He jump shoots like a guard, he attempts to play defense like a guard, drives to the basket like a guard, so I'm pretty sure that makes him a guard. As for Phil, I think his energy would be much better served to help our 2nd team. I think Phil should start, but over who? Our 2nd team doesnt really have a guy that could create his own shot except Elgin. Phil would be great on 2nd team to give us a boost when they come in.
Wow...whatever said:
I have no idea why Stans did not play Kodi and neither do you. Stans has never came out and said why he was not playing, coaches decision.
Kodi was the reason we won the SEC tourney, without him I say we don't pull it off, once again we will never know..
Good point. Probably could have layed into him a little more on that one. He does play some pretty terrible defense....
None of us know the exact reason he sat Kodi, but you're naive if you think it was b/c he "was in love w/ the 4 guard lineup" and that it wasn't b/c of his attitude or some personal rift between the two. What I'm saying is, why don't you just support our coaches judgment in why he sat him?
Also statefan, I meant that Ravern was our small forward, not a 4. Not many two guards or small forwards with his length and skill set. And while Phil doesn't play offense at all like a 4, he's just as good as anyone we've got at defending the other team's 4</p>
Also statefan, I meant that Ravern was our small forward, not a 4. Not many two guards or small forwards with his length and skill set. And while Phil doesn't play offense at all like a 4, he's just as good as anyone we've got at defending the other team's 4</p>
Because Ravern is not a forward. There is nothing about him that even hints at what a forward typically does.whatever said:
Ravern has literally run away from a loose ball...he isnt strong at all. He is a perimeter shooter(stereotype-> guard). He doesnt rebound(stereotype-> guard). He doesnt go anywhere near the post...ever(stereotype-> guard). He stands on the perimeter and when he does make cuts, its out on the perimeter(stereotype-> guard). The only time he goes into the lane is when he is trying to drive to the hoop from...the perimeter(stereotype-> gurard).
What about him even suggests Forward? And im not talking about a PF, im talking about anything that would even hint at him being a forward?
Except for his total lack of ability to dribble without turning it over, his skill set screams guard.
A. I dont support the coach because this (and you shouldnt either)- if all this is true, and he was sitting due to attitude and a rift with you know who, then he should have sat the whole time. We played him 7 minutes total in losses to Bammer, Tennessee, and Auburn. Well, when Bailey goes down, he still should have sat. If it was that big of a deal for him to not play, then we should played one of the white walk-ons before we played Kodi.whatever said:
So based on all those facts, You Know Who has made it seem like he thought playing Bailey over Augustus was the thing to do. Because when Bailey couldnt play, Augustus got his minutes. You know Who only started playing Kodi again because Bailey was hurt, not because of any coaching decision. So it wasnt that he wasnt playing because of a rift, he was playing because You Know Who thought Bailey deserved the minutes more.
B. Ask Tasmin Mitchell who he would rather have guard him- Turner or Augustus...Mitchell didnt come close to his performance in Tampa like he did in BR and Starkville against Turner. Having Augustus match up with him in Tampa was critical for our success.
Exactly Coach. Phil has played great having to fill in and be overmatched every game, but Kodi is tall, long, and has gotten much better defensively. Phil can jump out of this building, but Kodi gives a true PF much more problems with his length than Phil Turner will with his quickness and scrappyness. Gotta go Kodi over Phil when it comes to guarding guys like a Taz Mitchell, or a Perry Stevenson, or a Pondexter.
Are you so childish that you won't type out Stans, Rick, or Stansbury instead of trying to belittle him by calling him Bury, Ricky, or You Know Who? Regardless of whether or not you like the guy or what you think about how he performs his job, he deserves enough respect to be called by his name. It really shouldn't surprise me coming from you though.
Coach, just throwing out this scenario, b/c neither you nor I know if Kodi started playing again out of necessity or b/c he was out of Stans' "doghouse."
Let's say Stans knew all along that Kodi makes our team better by him playing than Bailey, but he wasn't playing Kodi b/c of attitude, rift, whatever...
Then, when Bailey gets hurt and Stans realizes that he needs someone to fill that void, he swallows his pride, has a heart to heart w/ Kodi, and they work out their rift. Kodi softens his stance too, and then we move past whatever differences that we had.
Isn't that scenario possible? B/c in my opinion, Stans isn't stupid, he can see that Kodi gives us a little better chance to win than Bailey.
And on the Ravern thing, I know he's not a forward. But a 3, or a small forward, doesn't necessarily ever play in the post. And I think Ravern still deserves to start, and if he puts on weight, becomes more physical and aggressive, and keeps improving, then he has more upside than anyone on our team.
Let's say Stans knew all along that Kodi makes our team better by him playing than Bailey, but he wasn't playing Kodi b/c of attitude, rift, whatever...
Then, when Bailey gets hurt and Stans realizes that he needs someone to fill that void, he swallows his pride, has a heart to heart w/ Kodi, and they work out their rift. Kodi softens his stance too, and then we move past whatever differences that we had.
Isn't that scenario possible? B/c in my opinion, Stans isn't stupid, he can see that Kodi gives us a little better chance to win than Bailey.
And on the Ravern thing, I know he's not a forward. But a 3, or a small forward, doesn't necessarily ever play in the post. And I think Ravern still deserves to start, and if he puts on weight, becomes more physical and aggressive, and keeps improving, then he has more upside than anyone on our team.
"Let's say Stans knew all along that Kodi makes our team better by him playing than Bailey, but he wasn't playing Kodi b/c of attitude, rift, whatever...
Then, when Bailey gets hurt and Stans realizes that he needs someone to fill that void, he swallows his pride, has a heart to heart w/ Kodi, and they work out their rift. Kodi softens his stance too, and then we move past whatever differences that we had.
Isn't that scenario possible? B/c in my opinion, Stans isn't stupid, he can see that Kodi gives us a little better chance to win than Bailey."
But I hope what you mentioned is what happened. It pisses me off that we lost games that we could won this year because of it, but if they have buried the hatchet and he stays, then we should be a force next year and at least a Sweet 16 team.
Then, when Bailey gets hurt and Stans realizes that he needs someone to fill that void, he swallows his pride, has a heart to heart w/ Kodi, and they work out their rift. Kodi softens his stance too, and then we move past whatever differences that we had.
Isn't that scenario possible? B/c in my opinion, Stans isn't stupid, he can see that Kodi gives us a little better chance to win than Bailey."
But I hope what you mentioned is what happened. It pisses me off that we lost games that we could won this year because of it, but if they have buried the hatchet and he stays, then we should be a force next year and at least a Sweet 16 team.