KT: loyal?

[Darryl Steight]

There seems to be an ongoing level of confusion about how college football makes its money, and who could potentially be paying these deals. The idea that a millionaire Mississippi state fan cuts a multi million dollar check for a player just to watch his team win on Saturdays is absurd.

Are you saying the idea that someone did cut a check for this is absurd? Or are you saying that those outsiders don't understand that's what happened?

 

[triton28]

Are you saying the idea that someone did cut a check for this is absurd? Or are you saying that those outsiders don't understand that's what happened?

I’m saying don’t assume the check came from a Mississippi State booster or even someone whose primary interest is Mississippi State football. KT being at State is a legitimate business investment for certain outside entities that stand to profit from his presence there. That money could have very little to do with our athletic department or its commitment to building a winning program. My point is that keeping KT and going all-in on the transfer portal are two entirely different things. One shouldn’t automatically be taken as evidence of the other.

 

[POTUS]

From an accountability perspective, all you can do is measure ROI after the season and see if you want to pay them again. I don't think there is anyway to approach ROI on the front end. Even if you win a national championship, from a pure financial perspective, there is no way to arrive at a "worth it" value.

This is how you have to think about it. Too many variables to decide before the season is played. How do you measure the economic impact of the attention we will receive? It’s so much more than wins and losses.

 

[patdog]

I’m saying don’t assume the check came from a Mississippi State booster or even someone whose primary interest is Mississippi State football. KT being at State is a legitimate business investment for certain outside entities that stand to profit from his presence there. That money could have very little to do with our athletic department or its commitment to building a winning program. My point is that keeping KT and going all-in on the transfer portal are two entirely different things. One shouldn’t automatically be taken as evidence of the other.

I think when you have 3 of the richest NFL players in the game today say publicly they’ll chip in to pay what it takes to keep KT & then a couple weeks later he signs a $7.5M deal, there’s a decent chance the money came from MSU alumni.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I think when you have 3 of the richest NFL players in the game today say publicly they’ll chip in to pay what it takes to keep KT & then a couple weeks later he signs a $7.5M deal, there’s a decent chance the money came from MSU alumni.

I hope they pitched in to keep receivers, get an some OL, and some coaching too.

 

[Darryl Steight]

I’m saying don’t assume the check came from a Mississippi State booster or even someone whose primary interest is Mississippi State football. KT being at State is a legitimate business investment for certain outside entities that stand to profit from his presence there. That money could have very little to do with our athletic department or its commitment to building a winning program. My point is that keeping KT and going all-in on the transfer portal are two entirely different things. One shouldn’t automatically be taken as evidence of the other.

 

[Monmorning QB]

From an accountability perspective, all you can do is measure ROI after the season and see if you want to pay them again. I don't think there is anyway to approach ROI on the front end. Even if you win a national championship, from a pure financial perspective, there is no way to arrive at a "worth it" value.

I get your point on evaluating ROI on the front end. It’s a roll of the dice. But I do think a national championship would be a “worth it”! But would just making, let’s say, the quarterfinals be a winner in most folks view? I guess it’s all a wait and see.

 

[triton28]

I think when you have 3 of the richest NFL players in the game today say publicly they’ll chip in to pay what it takes to keep KT & then a couple weeks later he signs a $7.5M deal, there’s a decent chance the money came from MSU alumni.

Thats a nice narrative. And a lot of times narratives are necessary to maintain order. For example, it sounds better to say “sec tv contract” than to say “televising each game to facilitate betting”. It’s a lot easier to say “anonymous booster donation” than to say “corporate deal by one of several companies who recognizes mad revenue off of Mississippi state having value. It all depends on what glasses you’re wearing honestly. I think it’s highly likely that this thing has been done for some time and was used as a way to shut us up about the coaching job. One perfectly timed release of information and boom we are excited about the potential of making the playoff with the losingest coach in sec history next year.

 

[patdog]

I hope they pitched in to keep receivers, get a some OL, and some coaching too.

Even if not, they’ve freed up the budget we already had to reallocate the QB money to those positions. We desperately need to make some coaching changes. As badly as we need quality players.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Would you take less money to do your job because you're a fan of the company?

I have done exactly that. It just depends on how those numbers came about.

I don't begrudge KT getting his money. Happy for him. But as an outsider with no information about the negotiations its hard to say whether that was a good price or not.

I have been in a situation where a firm was trying to poach me, and made a very attractive offer. The downside was I would have to move, and I really didn't think very highly of the firm making the offer. I took my offer to the firm partners, and they agreed to raise my salary, but not as high as what the other firm was offering. I liked my job, so I took the smaller pay increase and never looked back.

I sort of expected the same out of Kamario; that he would give State a "friends and family discount". And maybe he did. We don't know what all happened in the negotiation.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

He might have given us a discount. But KT was worth more and more important to us than any other school. He is a luxury for LSU, Texas, Ohio State, Miami, etc. If they don’t get him, it’s “ah well, would’ve been fun, life goes on.”

But imagine, after our last few years of misery, what KT leaving his lifelong dream school to go play at Texas does to our collective psyche. It may be the event that caused our fanbase to totally lose all hope and give up any pursuit in football. We HAD to keep KT here with whatever it took.

 

[Perd Hapley]

I mean how many wins was he worth for us just this year alone?

I suppose 3. I mean, I’d like to think we could have beaten ULM without him. But at this point, who knows?

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I suppose 3. I mean, I’d like to think we could have beaten ULM without him. But at this point, who knows?

You are one argumentative SOB. You know I meant the games we lost that he would have helped us win. You can't project injuries.

Look I realize you want Lenny gone. So do I. But the only thing you can do to help make that happen is showing up in Starkville a week from tomorrow and rooting for Tennessee Tech. Besides that, just shut up about it, or at minimum, quit taking every opposing viewpoint imaginable. We're stuck with the guy for 2 more years. We survived Croom, we'll survive this too.