Kyrie Irving thinks the earth is flat.......REALLY

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At one time the "consensus" was the earth was flat.

Haha!

Utter nonsense. The Greeks circa 300 BC proved the Earth was a sphere.

This contention is a modern exercise in dishonesty and/or flamboyant ignorance. It's sprung with the sole purpose to discredit certain scientific theories that individuals find unpalatable, be it due to political affiliation or religion.
 

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You may well be adept at your own branch of science but if so you need to point that sharp mind toward the propaganda you've been sold. The carbon 14 you mentioned is no friend at all to deep-timers. Its half life is so short that no amount of it at all could persist more than a hundred thousand years. Which is a serious problem for long agers since diamonds everywhere are chock of it in situ, to the point where attempts to explain it all away by sample contamination have become outright hilarious. Potsssium-argon analysis on the other hand only gives old-Earth results if you interpret the measured proportions using old-Earth assumptions about the starting ratios. It's highly circular and is of no value whatsoever in "proving" the interpretive framework under which it is used.

What's even more useful and critical though it to examine the history of what passes for secular origins science. For example, did LeMaitre begin with any scientific observations when he set up his Big Bang model, or did he just give mathematical form to Teilhard's heretical fantasy that so inspired him, and then adjust the numbers for that post-hoc until the laughter quieted down a bit and a younger, more naive generation of scientists started to give him public credence? Did Charles Darwin actually get any ideas from looking at finches, or did he simply republish and repackage his grandfather's (Erasmus Darwin) ridiculously impluasible atheist's wet dream Zoonomia with the Biblical creationist Edward Bylthe's idea about natural selection crammed into it?

The whole thing's a ridiculous house of mirrors and the closer you look at absolutely any part of it with authentic scientific thinking--especially if you look at the history of thinking behind it--the more it will unravel.
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Haha!

Utter nonsense. The Greeks circa 300 BC proved the Earth was a sphere.

This contention is a modern exercise in dishonesty and/or flamboyant ignorance. It's sprung with the sole purpose to discredit certain scientific theories that individuals find unpalatable, be it due to political affiliation or religion.

At one time there was a broad consensus that the earth was flat. Many many people believed it. Including educated.

What about homosexuals having a disorder? I realize that one keeps being ignored. Was science right then or now? Or is it the famous "settled science resettled" nonsense that people spout when the facts change? Which is my entire point.

The point of the conversation you jumped into was an insinuation that the department of education / science communities don't put out unprovable and some unlikely realities as fact. The gentleman i was referring to seems to think you just walk lock step with the "consensus" in time. Lots of people have been burned by believing that way.
 
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Well that's it. I've played devils advocate long enough here. Topics sure to rowl up spontaneous consciousness believers and Catholics, Jews, gays, atheist, baptist, and probably aliens.

Probably settled what Gods made of, probably still don't know who he is.
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive incapacity, on the part of those with low ability, to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their competence accurately."

:boom:

There's basically a 100,000% chance I'm going to yell "You dumbass Dunning-Kruger Effect motherf***er!" at someone in the near future. And it will be well deserved.
 

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:boom:

There's basically a 100,000% chance I'm going to yell "You dumbass Dunning-Kruger Effect motherf***er!" at someone in the near future. And it will be well deserved.

That's honestly the best insult I've ever seen. "You're such a f***wit, you don't even know that you are objectively a f***wit, you dumb motherf****er! Just google Dunning-Kruger! I dare you!"

Love it.
 

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There's basically a 100,000% chance I'm going to yell "You dumbass Dunning-Kruger Effect motherf***er!" at someone in the near future. And it will be well deserved.

You'll have plenty of potential targets. Because, unfortunately, the internet age has spawned a worldwide epidemic of Dunning-Kruger effect dumbasses like never before in history. People now read a few junk science or conspiracy freak websites, perhaps view some youtube videos, and then delude themselves into thinking they know more than real scientists and historians.

And, as someone else noted, it's usually people that could barely pass their high school science classes. But they've got ready made excuses to explain that--"by god, my grades weren't my fault, instead it was just that public education propaganda conspiring against me...."
 
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You'll have plenty of potential targets. Because, unfortunately, the internet age has spawned a worldwide epidemic of Dunning-Kruger effect dumbasses like never before in history. People now read a few junk science or conspiracy freak websites, perhaps view some youtube videos, and then delude themselves into thinking they know more than real scientists and historians.

And, as someone else noted, it's usually people that could barely pass their high school science classes. But they've got ready made excuses to explain that--"by god, my grades weren't my fault, instead it was just that public education propaganda conspiring against me...."

My brother, who has been accepted to Yale graduate school and is about as intellectually brilliant as it gets, once tried to explain some masonic conspiracy theory involving Jay-Z and iconography on drivers licenses to me that he learned off youtube.

He was high a lot then, so I want to blame that, but that was a very bad day.
 
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You'll have plenty of potential targets. Because, unfortunately, the internet age has spawned a worldwide epidemic of Dunning-Kruger effect dumbasses like never before in history. People now read a few junk science or conspiracy freak websites, perhaps view some youtube videos, and then delude themselves into thinking they know more than real scientists and historians.

And, as someone else noted, it's usually people that could barely pass their high school science classes. But they've got ready made excuses to explain that--"by god, my grades weren't my fault, instead it was just that public education propaganda conspiring against me...."

Yep.

Between the conspiracy kooks, the religious nuts, the people who can't see anything without a liberal or conservative lens, and high school graduates who for some reason think they're on the same level as post-graduate level experts made me realize long ago the internet has played a role in how ridiculously stupid the American public has become as a whole.

Some of us will believe damn near anything we're told, true or not.
 

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To flat earthers, all pictures showing a globe earth are photoshopped by NASA for some reason. Still not sure what the actual conspiracy is.

The sun is actually really small and moves in a circular path above the flat earth. Rather than being a raging ball of plasma, think of it more like a flashlight.

I can't remember the nonsense about why we don't go to the edge of the flat earth, but it's pretty in line with the other stuff.

And there's a dome covering the flat earth, kind of like a snow globe.


Just went to their website. It says the edges of earth are big ice walls that hold the oceans in. That's why no one has even been past Antarctica. North pole is actually the center of the flat earth.

It's all bullxxxx, but it was on their sight. I hope the site is a guy sitting in his mom's basement.
 
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You can't even get past step four of the scientific method when it comes to proving a god exists. Therefore, if the basis of your religion is untestable by the scientific method, your religion has no place in a scientific discussion.