Kyrie Irving thinks the earth is flat.......REALLY

[UKCAT5FAN]

Supernova remnants disperse, therefore evidence of them fades away. The remnants can only be visible for approx. 10,000 years or so. You have to think beyond the simplicity of young earth theorists. It's so very easy to pokes holes in their "logic".

Oh, ok. I don't claim to know much about this. I was just following. That's interesting to and that would explain it. Thanks!

I just find the Cosmos interesting. It amazes me just how truly small we really are in comparison of things. The universe and its story has always fascinated me. Just so much out there.

 

[BigKari]

"smoking gun" lmao.

We both know you haven't researched much of anything. I don't buy it for a second. But you keep on keepin on.

I mean to be honest it's not like it's a topic that requires extensive research.

 

[BlueThruAndThru_rivals115784]

I've been alive for 45 years. The earth didn't exist for me before then. The earth is 45 years old.

/thread

 

[BigKari]

Oh, ok. I don't claim to know much about this. I was just following. That's interesting to and that would explain it. Thanks!

I just find the Cosmos interesting. It amazes me just how truly small we really are in comparison of things. The universe and its story has always fascinated me. Just so much out there.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's so mind boggling to me just how vast the universe is and how long it took for everything to become how it is right now.

 

[morgousky]

Oh, ok. I don't claim to know much about this. I was just following. That's interesting to and that would explain it. Thanks!

I just find the Cosmos interesting. It amazes me just how truly small we really are in comparison of things. The universe and its story has always fascinated me. Just so much out there.

the amount of knowledgeable expansion we've obtained in relation to the universe is amazing. The fact that little humans who haven't been around longer than a half an eye blink think they know the answers to creation when we have trouble even getting to the moon is the funnest part of the whole debate. Their God is Bill Nye, a damn children's comedian.

But just imagine, you came from a ray of electricity that struck a little pond of something goopy and managed to turn from organism, fish, lizard, monkey, person and all of the consciousness that surrounds it was merely invented by dust.

And I am the crazy one.:cool2:

 

[morgousky]

I've been alive for 45 years. The earth didn't exist for me before then. The earth is 45 years old.

/thread

could easily be true. We don't exactly know if we even exist or not as of now.

 

[BlueThruAndThru_rivals115784]

could easily be true. We don't exactly know if we even exist or not as of now.

You younger guys are gonna be SOL when I die, that's one thing I know for sure.

 

[morgousky]

You younger guys are gonna be SOL when I die, that's one thing I know for sure.

[laughing]

 

[morgousky]

I almost feel like rafters has accomplished a small feat in this thread.

We should peer review this.

 

[BigKari]

the amount of knowledgeable expansion we've obtained in relation to the universe is amazing. The fact that little humans who haven't been around longer than a half an eye blink think they know the answers to creation when we have trouble even getting to the moon is the funnest part of the whole debate. Their God is Bill Nye, a damn children's comedian.

But just imagine, you came from a ray of electricity that struck a little pond of something goopy and managed to turn from organism, fish, lizard, monkey, person and all of the consciousness that surrounds it was merely invented by dust.

And I am the crazy one.:cool2:

I watched Bill Nye one time when my science teacher showed us a video in 6th grade. Even then I thought I was just a bit too old for it. Don't remember what it was about. I was raised catholic, as was almost everyone I grew up with. I was lied to my whole childhood and adolescence. I had to find out the truth on my own.

You can't comprehend the complexities of evolution and that's okay, I guess not everyone can wrap their brains around it.

 

[morgousky]

I watched Bill Nye one time when my science teacher showed us a video in 6th grade. Even then I thought I was just a bit too old for it. Don't remember what it was about. I was raised catholic, as was almost everyone I grew up with. I was lied to my whole childhood and adolescence. I had to find out the truth on my own.

You can't comprehend the complexities of evolution and that's okay, I guess not everyone can wrap their brains around it.

evolution is the most frail piece of garbage"scientist" ever invented. More holes than a graveyard. Even if I were an atheist I think I'd just stop pushing it.

We're worse off than we were to start with. And I'd say if you were raised catholic, you were lied to, but that's another topic all together.

 

[BlueThruAndThru_rivals115784]

evolution is the most frail piece of garbage"scientist" ever invented. More holes than a graveyard. Even if I were an atheist I think I'd just stop pushing it.

We're worse off than we were to start with. And I'd say if you were raised catholic, you were lied to, but that's another topic all together.

The evolutionary process cares not.

 

[BigKari]

evolution is the most frail piece of garbage"scientist" ever invented. More holes than a graveyard. Even if I were an atheist I think I'd just stop pushing it.

We're worse off than we were to start with. And I'd say if you were raised catholic, you were lied to, but that's another topic all together.

I'm done, you're too far gone my friend. I'll ask my religious friends to pray for you

 

[DCFseattle]

I couldn't agree with you more. It's so mind boggling to me just how vast the universe is and how long it took for everything to become how it is right now.

 

[Levibooty]

This thread to me proves that you don't have to be very smart, educated, or curious to post on the internet. The men and women who fought Hitler and the emperor of Japan may have believed stories in the bible but it was science that produce the weapons that defeated the Axis. Deluded people today believe they are on the right track and they know the big secrets they learned not in school but on the internet. I can't decide whether it's caused by too many drugs or not enough.

 

[DCFseattle]

The men and women who fought Hitler and the emperor of Japan may have believed stories in the bible

Totally true. When we die, a magic spaceman puts us in one of two alternate dimensions for the rest of forever.

 

[BlueThruAndThru_rivals115784]

evolution is the most frail piece of garbage"scientist" ever invented. More holes than a graveyard. Even if I were an atheist I think I'd just stop pushing it.

We're worse off than we were to start with. And I'd say if you were raised catholic, you were lied to, but that's another topic all together.

A graveyard doesn't have holes. The holes that it may have had are now filled with our loved ones.

It leads one to ponder when is a hole no longer a hole. Half filled? Three-quarters?

Can a hole ever truly be filled? Negating its "hole-ness".

 

[bluedog79]

I believe the earth is 7500 years old or so. I believe dinosaurs are fake ********.
That about covers my beliefs lol.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

For all this bible talk @morgousky sure does love a cocktail

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

I feel bad for some ppl in this thread, taxes and a tithe must kill their take home salary

 

[morgousky]

I'm done, you're too far gone my friend. I'll ask my religious friends to pray for you

If they're catholic please don't, and my kids are off limits.

 

[morgousky]

For all this bible talk @morgousky sure does love a cocktail

As I said, I'm a methodist. We aren't baptist.

Turn'em up.

I'm torched. Hope I won the thread.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

As I said, I'm a methodist. We aren't baptist.

Turn'em up.

I'm torched. Hope I won the thread.

What ever floats your boat. I took 12 years catholic/Christian school, I've heard every possible argument. The sun still goes up and comes down. I couldn't care less about getting into a religious argument, they all come down to one question "is there an omniscient being with power beyond our comprehension or not?" And don't get me started on if more powerful Gods exist. It's a never ending question

 

[nerdcat_rivals308595]

As I said, I'm a methodist. We aren't baptist.

Turn'em up.

I'm torched. Hope I won the thread.

It's pretty pathetic that I'm up at 4:30 on a Saturday because I can't sleep and I'm on this site. But it doesn't compare to a pseudo-Christian who's drunk (seems like an odd way to witness) trying to prop up a belief system on flimsy science.

 

[Primedfor9]

No flat earth, but I sometimes wonder if we're living in a simulation with the mandela effect changing everything around like it's nothing. Freaking Budweiser was named after Anheiser and that used to be common knowledge, like Busch beer was named after Busch in Anheiser Busch. Now it's Anheuser Busch and supposedly always has been, even though I and thousands of others remember Anheiser and I know people who live near Busch Gardens in Fla who all swear the company name changed.

 

[ORCAT10]

Go Big Blue - flat or round, 911 or not, global warming or ice age.

 

[BoneToPick]

Flat earthers don't really surprise me. I know seemingly intelligent people who believe in angels. All shapes and sizes.

 

[kybassfan]

Then you'll know there are many scientist, actually experts in the field globally, that believe the earth isn't billions of years old; and they have much evidence to point to their theory holding validity.

In an existence where it's possible nothing is real, and it is possible, nothing is guaranteed; even precious peer reviewed science.

btw, glad to know you're not into MMGW

Actually there a very few actual scientists that hold such a belief. This nonsense comes from those that develop a particular theory and go in search of data which supports the theory, pretty much rejecting every piece of data which does not. It's pretty much a Kylie Irving mentality who presumes because what he can see is flat, then the earth is flat.

I think it's pretty evident that you fail to grasp the purpose of developing these theories. The goal is to explain all the data presented such that the world is understood, somewhat predictable and where the parts fit together. You must account for all the data, not just that which supports a particular belief.

All this said, I have found that folks which are invested in these nonsensical views are fairly entrenched and unwilling to have useful dialogue on the matter. I hope your alternative theory of planetary aging serves you well. Given that it lacks practical significance, it is unlikely to bring you harm.

 

[kybassfan]

You may well be adept at your own branch of science but if so you need to point that sharp mind toward the propaganda you've been sold. The carbon 14 you mentioned is no friend at all to deep-timers. Its half life is so short that no amount of it at all could persist more than a hundred thousand years. Which is a serious problem for long agers since diamonds everywhere are chock of it in situ, to the point where attempts to explain it all away by sample contamination have become outright hilarious. Potsssium-argon analysis on the other hand only gives old-Earth results if you interpret the measured proportions using old-Earth assumptions about the starting ratios. It's highly circular and is of no value whatsoever in "proving" the interpretive framework under which it is used.

What's even more useful and critical though it to examine the history of what passes for secular origins science. For example, did LeMaitre begin with any scientific observations when he set up his Big Bang model, or did he just give mathematical form to Teilhard's heretical fantasy that so inspired him, and then adjust the numbers for that post-hoc until the laughter quieted down a bit and a younger, more naive generation of scientists started to give him public credence? Did Charles Darwin actually get any ideas from looking at finches, or did he simply republish and repackage his grandfather's (Erasmus Darwin) ridiculously impluasible atheist's wet dream Zoonomia with the Biblical creationist Edward Bylthe's idea about natural selection crammed into it?

The whole thing's a ridiculous house of mirrors and the closer you look at absolutely any part of it with authentic scientific thinking--especially if you look at the history of thinking behind it--the more it will unravel.

LOL, your cut and paste skills are quite good. As I told Morg, I hope your theories serve you well.

 

[jrpross_rivals]

Aw come on, I put this here so we could mock a Dukie, not each other!

 

[Blue Decade]

Like really really. He's one of those flat-earth people. I wonder what class at Duke taught that.....

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/si/extra-mustard/2017/02/17/cavaliers-kyrie-irving-flat-earth?source=dam?client=safari

Obviously, then, Kyrie Irving is ignorant and paranoid. It isn't because he spent a year at Duke. It is because he, like millions of other people, doesn't possess the intellect or the mental balance to exercise independent logic and assess the diverse wealth of scientific information available from independent sources not connected to governments. It is easier, and simpler, to believe in grand conspiracies than to digest complicated information. I won't get into a thesis here. But anyone can take a pair of binoculars and observe that Venus, Mars, Jupiter are spherical disks. With binoculars, one can observe the orbital behaviors of Jupiter's 4 largest moons. With naked eye, anyone can observe spherical structure and orbital behavior of our own moon. Why does the moon have phases like full and crescent, Kyrie? Kyrie Irving is a multimillionaire because he can put a ball through a hoop when bigger guys try to stop him. This is the value system of a society that rewards people like Kyrie Irving and Kobie Bryant hundreds of times more than it rewards teachers, doctors, and law enforcement officers, who perform essential work many times more necessary to the society than professional basketball. But the most amazing thing about this thread and the analogous thread over on KSR is the number of basketball fans who seriously argue that Inving is right. I support intellectual freedom, but it is frightening to see how many people are unable to use available facts to form a comprehensive intelligent conclusion. And I think we see this same phenomenon here after UK football and basketball games. LOL!

 

[Indy Cat]

Like really really. He's one of those flat-earth people. I wonder what class at Duke taught that.....

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/si/extra-mustard/2017/02/17/cavaliers-kyrie-irving-flat-earth?source=dam?client=safari

Using his logic, then Pi r round, cornbread r square

 

[OldEvilleCat]

Basketball's are round.....right?

 

[Levibooty]

Religion tells you what to believe just like politicians do. They both lie to suit their agenda. Science seeks understanding and changes it's theories based on demonstrable evidence. Religion requires faith in a story and ignores a lot of stories that doesn't serve it's purpose. Science applies reason to seek understanding and will change it's theory according to what empirical evidence suggests. I have no issue with spiritual people unfortunately most religious people thinking of themselves and their desires, persecute any that don't support their beliefs. Buddhists are much closer to following the words of Christ than the vast majority of American Christians.

 

[ThwKentuckyKid]

Religion tells you what to believe just like politicians do. They both lie to suit their agenda. Science seeks understanding and changes it's theories based on demonstrable evidence. Religion requires faith in a story and ignores a lot of stories that doesn't serve it's purpose. Science applies reason to seek understanding and will change it's theory according to what empirical evidence suggests. I have no issue with spiritual people unfortunately most religious people thinking of themselves and their desires, persecute any that don't support their beliefs. Buddhists are much closer to following the words of Christ than the vast majority of American Christians.

Could you give me one piece of evidence for macro-evolution?

 

[_Rooster]

I believe dinosaurs are fake ********.

Keep my Mammaw out of this!

 

[ubtrapper_rivals103836]

Yeah man. I worked with a dude several years ago who was a flat earther AND 9/11 Truther. He was that guy everyone tried to avoid getting into a 1 on 1 conversation with because "Nice day, ain't it?" would run off the rails real quick.

I don't believe the flat earth theory but 9/11 was absolutely an inside job. No doubt about it. Anyone who thinks our government isn't capable of this kind of stuff are definitely asleep.

 

[It'saDoneDeal]

I don't believe the flat earth theory but 9/11 was absolutely an inside job. No doubt about it. Anyone who thinks our government isn't capable of this kind of stuff are definitely asleep.

Lol.

At least this thread is vetting all the weirdo dumb----- on this board.

 

[Panthur]

Actually there a very few actual scientists that hold such a belief. This nonsense comes from those that develop a particular theory and go in search of data which supports the theory, pretty much rejecting every piece of data which does not. It's pretty much a Kylie Irving mentality who presumes because what he can see is flat, then the earth is flat.

I think it's pretty evident that you fail to grasp the purpose of developing these theories. The goal is to explain all the data presented such that the world is understood, somewhat predictable and where the parts fit together. You must account for all the data, not just that which supports a particular belief.

All this said, I have found that folks which are invested in these nonsensical views are fairly entrenched and unwilling to have useful dialogue on the matter. I hope your alternative theory of planetary aging serves you well. Given that it lacks practical significance, it is unlikely to bring you harm.

Here are my cut and paste skills:

http://creation.com/creation-scientists

There are thousands upon thousands of scientists who know your secular religion is bunk. I know many of them personally. Here are just a few of the ones who are so wildly successful in their respective fields that they can publicly voice their views and still withstand the resultant attacks on their careers.

Nothing in my other posts was copied at all. It stands to reason you'd claim it all was, though, since you obviously are not conversant enough with the facts to respond to any of my actual arguments. Go ad hominem when you can't go logic.

 

[kybassfan]

Here are my cut and paste skills:

http://creation.com/creation-scientists

There are thousands upon thousands of scientists who know your secular religion is bunk. I know many of them personally. Here are just a few of the ones who are so wildly successful in their respective fields that they can publicly voice their views and still withstand the resultant attacks on their careers.

Nothing in my other posts was copied at all. It stands to reason you'd claim it all was, though, since you obviously are not conversant enough with the facts to respond to any of my actual arguments. Go ad hominem when you can't go logic.

Religion? When was I discussing that?