Kyrie & Wiggins

[Gromcat_rivals]

You know there's a thread for politics right? Everything you post on any thread is politically related. Not sure if that you know this or not, but this is a basketball forum. The Political thread is in the General Discussion forum.

Here we go. The Vax crowd using the virus as a political tool and as soon as someone makes that claim they don’t want politics mentioned at all.

It’s a nice trick that won’t work.

Joe Biden used this virus as a means to redirect his minions from his absolute disaster of a presidency. If we’re fighting over a vaccine, we aren’t holding him accountable.

Good job following the orders. I’m not going to do it.

 

[STL_Cat]

There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to talk about this here. The “you can’t talk about this here” censorship people … you’re not helping. This thread wasn’t hijacked. It started this way and it’s on topic.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

So now your triggered!! Lol.. here comes the name calling... You're not a Doctor and please link his death for us if that makes you feel better along with validating your science and degree that you have achieved.

Triggered? Were you waiting to post that?

Missed your opportunity so rushed it huh?

I don’t even understand what the last part means.

 

[MethodUK]

The vaccine might be the safe bet. Unlike you, I don’t claim to know. That’s the difference so many of you don’t seem to get.

You have no idea how any of this plays out over the next decade. I lost a close friend due to the shot, I’m waiting. And no one will force me to take it.

You should wait if you don't feel comfortable. Especially since you lost a close friend due to the vaccine. But don't state that no research has been done in regards to the vaccine. That's false. Ask your doctor, ask medical scientists.

I'm not attacking because you don't feel comfortable taking it. It's your body, life, and feelings.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

You should wait if you don't feel comfortable. Especially since you lost a close friend due to the vaccine. But don't state that no research has been done in regards to the vaccine. That's false. Ask your doctor, ask medical scientists.

I'm not attacking because you don't feel comfortable taking it. It's your body, life, and feelings.

Who said there was no research. Trump rushed the vaccine, that’s a fact. It has not gone through traditional trials.

I don’t know why you keep repeating this stuff. And please don’t put words in my mouth.

Just over a year ago the entire Vax crowd was saying they weren’t going to take the shot because Trump rushed it. Now I HAVE to take it?

I’m not an idiot to the political climate. I’m good. I’m waiting. Thanks.

 

[DelkBowl]

My guess is those players will be ticked off and play half as hard when they do play.

 

[MethodUK]

Triggered? Were you waiting to post that?

Missed your opportunity so rushed it huh?

I don’t even understand what the last part means.

I like when people realize they got called out.

Are you 24? Bet you haven't even begun to live your life. God bless you

 

[RoyKent]

I honestly wish I could feel what it’s like to be as dumb as some of the people on this thread for a few minutes. Would be wild.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

I like when people realize they got called out.

Are you 24? Bet you haven't even begun to live your life. God bless you

You didn’t call anyone out. You pretended to have ground to stand on when you didn’t.

The guy claimed my boy didn’t die. I called him an idiot.

Stop responding to me if this is the best you can do.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

I honestly wish I could feel what it’s like to be as dumb as some of the people on this thread for a few minutes. Would be wild.

Oh trust me you’re far dumber than just about everyone in this thread. I’m glad the current climate allows morons to feel superior. It’s about the best it’s going to get for you.

 

[chroix]

I am not investing any time or effort in a thread that will inevitably be deleted by the mods but I hope everyone is healthy and safe. Good luck all.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Last word on this.

If you want the shot get it. If you don’t, dont. That’s the takeaway.

Those that agree with this mandate are just political dummies who sway with party lines. I don’t do that.

 

[MethodUK]

You didn’t call anyone out. You pretended to have ground to stand on when you didn’t.

The guy claimed my boy didn’t die. I called him an idiot.

Stop responding to me if this is the best you can do.

Who said there was no research. Trump rushed the vaccine, that’s a fact. It has not gone through traditional trials.

I don’t know why you keep repeating this stuff. And please don’t put words in my mouth.

Just over a year ago the entire Vax crowd was saying they weren’t going to take the shot because Trump rushed it. Now I HAVE to take it?

I’m not an idiot to the political climate. I’m good. I’m waiting. Thanks.

You said

Who said there was no research. Trump rushed the vaccine, that’s a fact. It has not gone through traditional trials.

I don’t know why you keep repeating this stuff. And please don’t put words in my mouth.

Just over a year ago the entire Vax crowd was saying they weren’t going to take the shot because Trump rushed it. Now I HAVE to take it?

I’m not an idiot to the political climate. I’m good. I’m waiting. Thanks.

You said "The government forcing a vaccine that has barely had enough time to collect a single data sheet is overreach and it is unconstitutional"

So yes, I take that as you saying there is no research!

So you are 24?

 

[Cowtown Cat]

You said


You said "The government forcing a vaccine that has barely had enough time to collect a single data sheet is overreach and it is unconstitutional"

So yes, I take that as you saying there is no research!

So you are 24?

How long has it been actually used in real time, real life scenarios? Research and trial and error are two totally different things altogether.

 

[Cats192]

Would they hurt all their vaccinated teammates? Is that the concern?

If you're vaccinated and exposed, there's a different set of quarantine rules vs unvaccinated and exposed.

Additionally, some cities/states have indoor vaccine requirements. Wiggins literally can't play home games due to the requirement.

Health aside--it's a huge competitive disadvantage.
1. You can't play in certain cities. Can you imagine Golden State in the playoffs and you can't play a starter because he's unvaccinated?
2. If you're exposed, you're quarantined longer. You'll miss more time/games.

The NBA is a business trying to protect the product. They don't want players out 2 weeks everytime an exposure occurs.

 

[Cats192]

The government forcing a vaccine that has barely had enough time to collect a single data sheet is overreach and it is unconstitutional. You obviously don’t know anything about the way a Republic works.

Over half of the world's population has been vaccinated. We have A LOT more than a single data sheet.

 

[MethodUK]

How long has it been actually used in real time, real life scenarios? Research and trial and error are two totally different things altogether.

Talk to your Family doctor or medical provider that you trust. All I can say

 

[gracetoyou]

Would they hurt all their vaccinated teammates? Is that the concern?

No. Getting vaccinated with this vaccine is like wearing a seat belt. You protect yourself. It's disinformation that you protect or threaten others.

It's fallacy blaming the unvaccinated for infecting the fully vaccinated instead of just accepting the reality the vaccine is weak against Delta. But no one will say that although it's the truth. Its easier just to blame the unvaccinated & give us more reason to divide & eat our own.

With that said the vaccine has value & increases statistical odds one will not get deathly sick.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

You said


You said "The government forcing a vaccine that has barely had enough time to collect a single data sheet is overreach and it is unconstitutional"

So yes, I take that as you saying there is no research!

So you are 24?

So you can’t read? I never said there was no research.

I’m 35, I’ve had thousands of hours of clinical research, and I’d put my position in life up against yours with no issue. If you got me you got me, but I doubt it.

Just because you say things doesn’t make those things true. In the same breath you claim I said something I didn’t say, you then reword my words to fit your narrative.

You need a good old fashioned logic class my friend.

Stop quoting me in the thread. If you want just drink the vaccine while your political party spanks your ***. I don’t care. I’m only against a mandate. You seem to be against it too. So I don’t know where the issue even is.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Talk to your Family doctor or medical provider that you trust. All I can say

Family doctor has already told me to get the vaccine. My friend who’s a physician that died was heavily in favor of the vaccine.

What is your point man?

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Over half of the world's population has been vaccinated. We have A LOT more than a single data sheet.

AND people literally die as a direct result of taking the vaccine. What don’t people understand about this? Why get vaccinated for something that has a 99+% survival rate? Better yet, why the need to mandate said vaccine is a better question.

 

[Cats192]

Covid has a 99+% survival rate. A mandate for this is absolutely absurd.

To be clear,

There aren't a lot of mandates. You don't have to get the shot because you're a living breathing citizen of the United States.

Your employer may require it as a condition of employment. This is not anything new. And no one seemed to have a problem with vaccine requirements for work until 2021.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

AND people literally die as a direct result of taking the vaccine. What don’t people understand about this? Why get vaccinated for something that has a 99+% survival rate? Better yet, why the need to mandate said vaccine is a better question.

Because my good sir, AFGHANISTAN!

 

[Cowtown Cat]

To be clear,

There aren't a lot of mandates. You don't have to get the shot because you're a living breathing citizen of the United States.

Your employer may require it as a condition of employment. This is not anything new. And no one seemed to have a problem with vaccine requirements for work until 2021.

It’s NOT the government’s call. That’s the point. Complete overreach. Just imagine this being Trump attempting to mandate a vaccine.

 

[Cats192]

AND people literally die as a direct result of taking the vaccine. What don’t people understand about this? Why get vaccinated for something that has a 99+% survival rate? Better yet, why the need to mandate said vaccine is a better question.

More people have taken the vaccine than have tested positive for COVID. 680,000 people have died from the virus. Despite there being less cases of virus than vaccine given.

Vaccine adverse reactions are much more rare. And cases of death are exceedingly rare. The last number I heard confirmed was 3 and those were all fro J&J. Don't take J&J. Problem solved.

 

[Cats192]

It’s NOT the government’s call. That’s the point. Complete overreach.

The government isn't making the call.

You have a choice. If your employer says you have to get the shot to work there--you don't have to work there. That's the point. Your employer also has the option of eating the penalties and employing you. I'm betting that doesn't happen.

But employers have had job requirements since the beginning of time.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

More people have taken the vaccine than have tested positive for COVID. 680,000 people have died from the virus. Despite there being less cases of virus than vaccine given.

Vaccine adverse reactions are much more rare. And cases of death are exceedingly rare. The last number I heard confirmed was 3 and those were all fro J&J. Don't take J&J. Problem solved.

3?!

 

[Cowtown Cat]

The government isn't making the call.

You have a choice. If your employer says you have to get the shot to work there--you don't have to work there. That's the point. Your employer also has the option of eating the penalties and employing you. I'm betting that doesn't happen.

But employers have had job requirements since the beginning of time.

The government is absolutely trying to make the call. Where do you think this all arose from?

 

[gracetoyou]

To be clear,

There aren't a lot of mandates. You don't have to get the shot because you're a living breathing citizen of the United States.

Your employer may require it as a condition of employment. This is not anything new. And no one seemed to have a problem with vaccine requirements for work until 2021.

Uh yea...many employers mandating because government is going to fine them if they don't. And also because although vaccinated can contract & transmit COVID they don't have to quarantine if exposed...which is stupid.

So...yea...government has put employers in a position they pretty much have to make employees get it.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Look fellas, the sky is purple! My goodness gracious.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

More people have taken the vaccine than have tested positive for COVID. 680,000 people have died from the virus. Despite there being less cases of virus than vaccine given.

Vaccine adverse reactions are much more rare. And cases of death are exceedingly rare. The last number I heard confirmed was 3 and those were all fro J&J. Don't take J&J. Problem solved.

Black Americans dying from illegal police violence is exceedingly rare, but we’ve literally created a culture around it.

How do we pick and choose?

I’m just saying, there’s too much nonsense in this country to know one way or the other. I’m waiting to get the vaccine until the dust settles. To me, that is the smartest play.

 

[Cats192]

Uh yea...many employers mandating because government is going to fine them if they don't. And also because although vaccinated can contract & transmit COVID they don't have to quarantine if exposed...which is stupid.

So...yea...government has put employers in a position they pretty much have to make employees get it.

Again,

You can quit your job. There is a choice. Your job CANNOT make you get it. They just won't let you work there.

 

[Cats192]

Black Americans dying from illegal police violence is exceedingly rare, but we’ve literally created a culture around it.

How do we pick and choose?

I’m just saying, there’s too much nonsense in this country to know one way or the other. I’m waiting to get the vaccine until the dust settles. To me, that is the smartest play.

Yeah, I don't think the two are connected. That's just a gigantic whataboutism.

I've not spoken about black americans and police violence and I'm not going to get sucked into that worm hole.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Again,

You can quit your job. There is a choice. Your job CANNOT make you get it. They just won't let you work there.

LMFAO

 

[Cats192]

The government is absolutely trying to make the call. Where do you think this all arose from?

Again,
You can say no to the vaccine. You can walk away from the job. Do what makes you happy.

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

The government isn't making the call.

You have a choice. If your employer says you have to get the shot to work there--you don't have to work there. That's the point. Your employer also has the option of eating the penalties and employing you. I'm betting that doesn't happen.

But employers have had job requirements since the beginning of time.

I like you cats92 but you have got to be kidding. You need to research this better. The government is absolutely strong arming employers to force mandates. Some of you are just not up to speed enough to discuss this issue.

 

[Cats192]

LMFAO

Are you out of intelligent replies?
Did I say something factually incorrect?

 

[Gromcat_rivals]

Again,
You can say no to the vaccine. You can walk away from the job. Do what makes you happy.

So lose your way of life and way of supporting your family, because you don’t want to have a needle stuck in your arm? And the government has nothing to do with it?

Man if you believe this I’m honestly at a loss.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Again,
You can say no to the vaccine. You can walk away from the job. Do what makes you happy.

You’re talking in circles.

 

[Cats192]

I like you cats92 but you have got to be kidding. You need to research this better. The government is absolutely strong arming employers to force mandates. Some of you are just not up to speed enough to discuss this issue.

I'm a physician. That sees covid patients daily. I'm probably the most up to speed person in this thread.

The government is trying to strong arm you into getting it. They want more people vaccinated to end the pandemic.

BUT guess what. They aren't forcing you to get it. You have the option to leave your job and NOT be forced to get the vaccine.
If you value "your choice" more than your job, all the power in the world to you.