They are a great program and have been for 30 years. It’s talent, a great coaching staff, and a mindset of excellence. St. Ed’s is right on par as is Massillon Washington and the Cincy Powers.Urban Meyer said on tv today that st iggy,Cleveland is the Best high school program in the country. Pretty hard to disagree with him.
Of course they will, last year being a prime example. LA has catapulted themselves into that 80s-early 00s Caravan status. They can be down at times, but never out. Ohio is on another plane of existence, as much as we all like to pretend we’re the center of the football universe.LA will be just fine.
Agree top tier Ohio football is at a different level then even teams like loyola. Congrats to the ramblers for challenging themselves. They will be just fine.Of course they will, last year being a prime example. LA has catapulted themselves into that 80s-early 00s Caravan status. They can be down at times, but never out. Ohio is on another plane of existence, as much as we all like to pretend we’re the center of the football universe.
No they don’t.It’s week one. Ignatius and Ohio are very good football. So is Loyola. Those two teams play again in November...who knows.
I grew up in Columbus and then outside of Cincy. It really is crazy the amount of really good football teams and talent. The MAC, a small school conference N of Dayton, has produced copious D1 and NFL players. Most of the schools would be 1A-3A in IL. Crazy what those farm boys accomplish. St. Henry (300 enrollment) has sent 2 QBs to OSU (Todd Boeckman and Bobby Hoying) and more than a few OL to the NFL (Jim Lachey- OSU and Jeff Hartings - PSU). Throw in old school baseball player Wally Post and it’s an amazing amount of talent in a small farming community.The best public and private programs in Ohio are so deep, tough. I am a huge fan of OHSFB
I grew up in Columbus and then outside of Cincy. It really is crazy the amount of really good football teams and talent. The MAC, a small school conference N of Dayton, has produced copious D1 and NFL players. Most of the schools would be 1A-3A in IL. Crazy what those farm boys accomplish. St. Henry (300 enrollment) has sent 2 QBs to OSU (Todd Boeckman and Bobby Hoying) and more than a few OL to the NFL (Jim Lachey- OSU and Jeff Hartings - PSU). Throw in old school baseball player Wally Post and it’s an amazing amount of talent in a small farming community.
Youngstown and Warren produce an incredible amount of talent. Warren Harding and Youngstown Cardinal Mooney are the kings there. That area, like the steel towns of W. Pa, just lives and breathes HS football.The thing that is different about Ohio is there is good football all over the state you go to place like Youngstown and all they have left is high school football. I went a game that be 4A/5A teams in Illinois and they were outstanding.
All of those are factors. Football in Ohio is like basketball in Indiana. It is a way of life. Small town hero’s to city kids looking for a ticket out. Everyone plays it and there is a deep talent pool of coaching. My league was medium sized schools (4a-5a -ish). We played in stadiums that were as small at 1000 people all the way up to 6000. The big leagues (Cincy’s Greater Catholic League, Etc) routinely have 8-12k stadiums. And they are always filled (much like ours here in IL).How did they get to that level and sustain it? More focus of youth development? Longer seasons? Or purely more dedication to the sport? I’d assume many factors - tough kids, they understand work, expectations of excellence.
What else? There has to be more.
Dear Lord!I think another important aspect is the scheduling that the big boys do. St. Ignatius plays:
Loyola
Mentor - just beat defending state champs and loaded St. Ed’s
Dematha (MD)
Akron Archbishop Hoban - 4x defending state champs in Ohio’s equivalent to 7A.
Rockledge (FL)
St. Ed’s
Cincy Moeller
Cincy St. X
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It really is crazy. Looking forward to seeing East Side in S. Naperville in 2 weeks.Dear Lord!
East Saint peters out half way through ... no one in Illinois could do that, assuming a clean sheet.
2 scrimmages will help. LA played them tough. Too many turnovers and a young QB who had never taken a varsity snap. I feel bad for the trevians. I think the Ramblers are going to be angry.
Very. Angry.2 scrimmages will help. LA played them tough. Too many turnovers and a young QB who had never taken a varsity snap. I feel bad for the trevians. I think the Ramblers are going to be angry.
No one has mentioned the social and economic value for a two parent household in all this jousting for answers. A factor of note.
Yep. They are more like a controlled scrimmage/practice.
Yep. And they have computer rankings that determine playoffs. You are ranked against teams in your class (Division I is largest schools, DVII the smallest) and by regions. Each class has 4 regions. 8 teams per region make the playoffs. You have regional champions meet in the state semi’s. This guy does an amazing job of creating the computer rankings each week:And 10 games during the regular season.
I think another important aspect is the scheduling that the big boys do. St. Ignatius plays:
Loyola
Mentor - just beat defending state champs and loaded St. Ed’s
Dematha (MD)
Akron Archbishop Hoban - 4x defending state champs in Ohio’s equivalent to 7A.
Rockledge (FL)
St. Ed’s
Cincy Moeller
Cincy St. X
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I would disagree with that. I think Loyola would hold their own and possibly win in many of those matchups. Any given Friday (Saturday).....Mind boggling to think that Loyola is most likely the second worst team on their schedule. Imagine the mindset of a program that looks at a game with Loyola as a likely win.