La Raza...good to be associated with them or not?
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And BTW, the Judge is associated with the La Raza Lawyers Association, not the civil rights group. Completely different.
La Raza "The Race"...I guess if it was a white anglo saxon group called "The Race" folks would have a problem if they sold popcorn and lemonade.
It probably has more than one meaning, especially with slang. American English examples like, dope, tight, etc
Who the f**k would sell lemonade and popcorn together anyway?
La Raza is a Spanish language term translating to "The Race, Spanish raza having the meaning of "race, ethnicity; breed, strain, lineage". The term expresses ethnic or racial pride, and is used with somewhat different shades of meaning in Spain and in Hispanic America.
Popcorn (salty) and lemonade (sweet) compliment one another.
It's not like smaller groups don't differentiate themselves from others as a sense of pride. NAACP. Broads in Congress. etc. Nothing new. I'm sure there is a christian lawyers association.
TOTAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. ..NO DOUBT...IJS..Trump should've let this play out first,and then pulled the La Raza card out..but Trump being Trump opened his mouth and put his size 11.5 in his yap. He's GOT TO BE SMARTER THAN THIS.HE PLAYS RIGHT INTO HI'LIAR'YS HAND.
NEW YORK – The federal judge presiding over the Trump University class action lawsuit is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, a group that while not a branch of the National Council of La Raza, has ties to the controversial organization, which translates literally “The Race.”
U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who has been criticized by Donald Trump as a “hater” appointed by President Obama who should be recused from the case, listed his membership in the “La Raza Lawyers of San Diego” on a judicial questionnaire he filled out when he was selected to be a federal judge. He was named in a brochure as a member of the selection committee for the organization’s 2014 Annual Scholarship Fund Dinner & Gala. Meanwhile, the San-Diego based law firm representing the plaintiffs in the Trump University case, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, was listed as a sponsor of the event.
The San Diego firm paid $675,000 to the Clintons for speeches, and the firm’s founder is a wealthy San Diego lawyer who served a two-year sentence in federal prison for his role in a kickback scheme to mobilize plaintiffs for class-action lawsuits.
The San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association is a member of the La Raza Lawyers of California, affiliated with the Chicano/Latino Bar Association of California.
On the website of the La Raza Lawyers Association of California, at the bottom of the “Links & Affiliates Page,” the National Council of La Raza is listed.
U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who has been criticized by Donald Trump as a “hater” appointed by President Obama who should be recused from the case, listed his membership in the “La Raza Lawyers of San Diego” on a judicial questionnaire he filled out when he was selected to be a federal judge. He was named in a brochure as a member of the selection committee for the organization’s 2014 Annual Scholarship Fund Dinner & Gala. Meanwhile, the San-Diego based law firm representing the plaintiffs in the Trump University case, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, was listed as a sponsor of the event.
The San Diego firm paid $675,000 to the Clintons for speeches, and the firm’s founder is a wealthy San Diego lawyer who served a two-year sentence in federal prison for his role in a kickback scheme to mobilize plaintiffs for class-action lawsuits.
The San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association is a member of the La Raza Lawyers of California, affiliated with the Chicano/Latino Bar Association of California.
On the website of the La Raza Lawyers Association of California, at the bottom of the “Links & Affiliates Page,” the National Council of La Raza is listed.
Old white dudes getting their panties in a bunch over former minority organizations becoming majorities, Demographics gonna rip the GOP a new one with Trump. Imagine if Pelosi was calling Hillarys comments the "definiton of Racism" like Ryan is for Trump. Lol, it'd be funny if it weren't true.
LMAO. Nevermind, I see it comes from the world renown WND. [roll]
I'd wager 80% is incorrect. WND is like InfoWars, KKK newsletter, etc. I think Salon is a different kind of ludicrous.
"WND’s point of view is best described as a cross between the now-defunct supermarket tabloid Weekly World News, which was famous for reporting on Elvis sightings, and The New American, a monthly magazine published by the far-right, conspiracist John Birch Society. In its 15 years online, it has introduced readers to a smorgasbord of bizarre ideas, specializing in anti-gay, anti-Muslim, and anti-liberal propaganda; antigovernment conspiracy theories; and end-times prophecy."
Southern Poverty Law Center
As a judge, he should recuse himself from any case involving Trump or his supporters. As an association of lawyers, you have to expect they are biased toward the position his client. You do not expect the Judge to have the appearance of bias.
In this case, Trump should have asked the judge to be recused thru his lawyer. I see nothing wrong with Trump's claim. I find fault with all his supporters who think he is wrong in principle. I think everyone would act to defend themselves if they were involved with the level of financial loss Trump is exposed to.
What was incorrect? Since you have made the charge.....show what was incorrect. You obviously have looked at the story I pulled the info from.
The fact that it came from WND. You may as well post Bob's email account. It would be like believing Kim Jong Il shot a round of 27 his first time golfing.
That's nice........just as I expected. When you can't answer......just keep beating the same drum.
I'm not sure how to answer the unanswerable? No one else is "reporting" what WND is. WND has a history of inaccurate articles. What am I supposed to be refuting? The Judge and his ties to La Raza?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-latinos-idUSKCN0YS2BV
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/06/03/dishonest-attempt-associate-gonzalo-curiel-la-raza/
Google Southern Poverty Law Center + WND
I'm not sure what I am supposed to be "answering". Stop posting WND stories.
I understand......so now when I see a story on CNN,MSNBC,CBS,ABC,NBC or FOX or read something in the WP or NYT that no one else is covering, I should not believe it. And I will continue to post from where I want. You still have not shown ANY evidence that what WND reported in not true.
I'd be skeptical of anything only reported in 1 place in general, regardless of source, but....Correct. Most people compare WND to CNN, NY Times, Fox News, etc.
I posted 2 different articles and quite frankly it's not worth the time, cause clearly you aren't interested.
What does the judge's lineage have to do with a case about real estate courses/seminars?
How would this be any different than an Irish or Italian judge who is Catholic with association/membership to the Knights of Columbus presiding over a case involving the church? Or for that matter, any other number of scenarios that can be raised with very similar parallels?
Could lend itself to bias against or for the plaintiff or defendant.
Anytime I've had to deal with legal issues, one of the first things I want to know is who the judge that was assigned the case.
Trump's folly was how he went about discussing this judge, but ultimately IMHO this is much to do about nothing.
Trump's folly is that race wasn't an issue in this case until Trump made it an issue by questioning the impartiality of a judge based on his heritage. This case wasn't Mexican Americans vs Trump University. It was a class action lawsuit against Trump University.
For those who think that this judge has shown some sort of bias based on his heritage, he had to go into hiding when he was a federal prosecutor because Mexican drug cartels put a price on his head. Where's that part of the WND report?
I'm not saying he's biased or not, but any potential bias is always a concern going into any legal matter.
Anyone has potential bias. The problem with saying a judge is biased is that you have to show that. Also, if the judge is such a concern, why not motion by Trump's attorneys for a new judge? I'm sure Trump has the best Lawyers, fantastic lawyers.
The problem with saying it IMO is that by putting it out there he runs the risk to piss off the person who could rule on his case.
He should have kept his mouth shut about the judge, but his concerns about this man's heritage influencing his decisions against a man portrayed as being "Anti-Mexican" have some validity.