I have been seeing and hearing comments about some players lack of effort and lack of passion to play. Honestly, I don't know which specific players are not giving 100%. Maybe some of you do. What I don't know is if it is so obvious that some players are half-a$$ing it, why don't the coaches just sit them and play players who will give 100%. Let's face it, this season is lost. Why not play young or inexperienced guys who are willing to give it everything they have? I would rather lose with 100% ers than put up with players with attitude problems. I would think any coach would not put up with players coasting. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Taking a tougher approach now might help prepare for next year.
Lack of Effort
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I have always felt like it's less of "players not giving 100% effort" and more of "players not understanding or having the capability to respond to adversity". I think the players do give an effort, it often seems like the deficiencies our team has is more mental, less physical.
These players have gone through a coaching change and now are going through arguably the worst season in NU modern history - I think its safe to say lets cut them a little slack in this whole thing
Lack of effort is not the reason we are where we are at this year
Lack of effort is not the reason we are where we are at this year
The question is: By how much more would you be willing to lose the remaining games?
The problem is that the 100%ers who aren't playing aren't as talented as the 80-90%ers who are playing.
First of all, I know many players are playing their hearts out. I feel bad for them. The fact is we are still losing. I just have a problem playing players if they aren't playing with passion. I was at the Northwestern game and I cannot imagine a bigger pregame build up with the 95 team there. And they came out flat.
As far as losing, I see one win left - at best.
A number of reasons but with one over riding issue
- Some Bo hangover
- Injuries to positions where we could not afford them
- schematic issues
- some talent issues
Lack of effort on game day may not be the issue. A guy can go as hard and fast as he can on game day, but if he did not give effort and focus in the practice sessions and in the film and strategy sessions leading up to game day, much of that game day effort is somewhat wasted going the wrong direction, missing a read or an assignment, etc. That kind of lack of effort isn't necessarily readily apparent on game day, but it sure as heck shows up in the win-loss column.
The Cornhusker culture is gone. It won't return until we reach deep into our roots and bring back the magic.
I agree with a lot of this. I also think a lot of players THINK theyre playing hard and THINK it's their best but they aren't truly playing to their potential. They need a kick in the *** and/or a shrink.
wow, wish I could have that same attitude when my boss leaves for another job and I get stuck with a mew boss who doesn't really know me or my talent but I have to bust my a$$ to keep my position.
Agree I think we are starting to see as the year goes and as things come out that it is not a talent issue. Plain and simple these players are not buying into these coaches. Now I'm not 100% sure if that is because they are being stuborn/loyal to Bo or if the coaches are not good and these player know it and are frustrated.
I was watching big red wrap up and it seems like they are hinting at it being poor coaching, play calls, schemes. Just sucks if we have to watch this for another few years.
Would you consider a starting safety who stands, walks and falls down showing no effort to tackle an opponent during a play an example of "players not understanding or having the capability to respond to adversity?"
HELL NO! I was replying to the Chief's post regarding the players who are dogging it being given a pass. I'd start #24 and let him unleash his physical potential. He may be young and less experienced but he brings it every game. #25 certainly doesn't.
Is that clear enough for you?Smokin
It really is too bad, the guy's got the physical tools to be a good player, but he is so passive on so many plays. He has the eye of the kitten.
Williams (#24) should be starting. I think he is already a really good player-hard to believe he is only a frosh.
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You and I most definitely agree. My point was if you as a coach see a player giving that kind of effort and you continue to play him, then that's on you.
If a player can't buy in and lacks the passion to play then he should find his way to the bench.
The only reason i can see why you keep playing these players is Riley is trying to keep a full blown mutiny from breaking out.
Alex Lewis pretty much showed everyone where the player's heads are. If Riley benches any one of the leaders it would just prove the Us against the world mentality Bo professed was real. And the players sitting on the fence would turn. I honestly think that's where we're at.
I think you're really reaching there. Tape doesn't lie. If you suck or half *** it, you sit. Just like anywhere else
Yeah, the tape doesn't lie. And this isn't like a normal coaching change with the standard discontent.
In fairness, Alex was the guy who made the hustle play to tackle the ball handler sprinting toward to end zone after the high snap from Reeves. He went balls to the wall there. Perhaps he is fully in now and Riley's mentorship is helping.
Yes he did. The problem with these situations is you'll get the hot and cold reaction and that's 100% normal. But that's day to day living not in a sport where your head has to be in the game and screwed on right. That's our overriding issue this year.
I really tried not to go down this path but the players are acting exactly like kids in a divorce. Bo was a father figure to many of these kids. Remember we're talking about some that might not of had a stable father figure in their lives before Bo. I really had hope that the stable demeanor Riley has would negate many of the issues.
Some people seem to think as though Bo was running a cult...I wonder if these players will ever be able to lead productive lives with Bo gone.
Some people seem to think as though Bo was running a cult...I wonder if these players will ever be able to lead productive lives with Bo gone.
http://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html
Right? When in doubt, stick to the narrative. You know what's funny, let's say all those close games swing our way and we're 7-2. You think people would applaud past recruiting?Some people seem to think as though Bo was running a cult...I wonder if these players will ever be able to lead productive lives with Bo gone.
Mutiny or not, Riley has to start holding players accountable in the "culture" he want's build. The "effort" # 25 (and some others...especially on defense) has shown the last 2 weeks is not only deserving of him losing his starting spot, but is also deserving of him to not even see the field the rest of the season IMO. You got young guys who may not be as talented or experienced, but it's time to see what they can do. Hell, if I was #25's back-up and see what the film showed the last few weeks, I'd wouldn't buy into what the coach is selling either. Yes, Bo ran his team like a cult & alot of that has been left behind for this current staff to deal with. But Riley could very well lose the players who actually weren't brainwashed by the Bo kool-aid if he doesn't start pulling some of these players that are giving a piss-poor effort. Accountability needs to be held. If it causes a mutiny at this point, so be it.
That's a concern, but so is losing credibility. I can't imagine backups being happy sitting on the bench when the guy ahead of him is obviously not putting forth even decent effort. Or fellow starters who are still giving it their all.
Maybe these issues were happening all season with a few players. And when there were no repercussions, maybe some more players joined that group. And the result is the Purdue game.
More than likely we'd be hearing a lot more of the coaching them up stuff that we heard about in the off season.
Shrinks are highly overrated. A kick in the *** usually works wonders.
Admittedly I've gone back and forth on this subject. It is very frustrating to watch the half effort against Northwestern and Purdue.