NOT. Seems like these teams that are the last four in the tourney would be considered the 61st through 64th best team in the country...therefore the 16 seeding. Really doesn't make sense that those last four teams will probably be in the range of 12 seeds. A bunch of teams will be higher seeds because the system does not allow the best 64 in. The best tourney would allow the best teams in....from 1-64. The NIT would really suck then wouldn't it? Hmm.
Last Four In Will Be 16 Seeds...
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Somewhere around 15 to 17 teams ( or maybe more)get in by winning their conference. That has nothing to do with who is the best 65.
The At Large teams generally come in beneath them, usually areound 12 or 13 seeds andbelow.So bubble teams are never 16 seeds, unless I've missed something.
The At Large teams generally come in beneath them, usually areound 12 or 13 seeds andbelow.So bubble teams are never 16 seeds, unless I've missed something.
Let's talk about what this really means , the last 4 in.jbulldog said:
The last 4 in does not mean these are the lowest ranked teams of the 64, 65 tean field. These are the last 4 included AFTER all of theLAME automatic bids go out.
Those who favor this current format love to tell youthat it is this way to " give the little schools a chance". Dickie V(d) loves to tell you that the little guy deserves a shot , while at the same time He is cashing his check because the "little guy" getting his shot means that the favorite gets an easier road to the final 4.
Don't buy into the crap.........it isn't about giving the small schools a chance , it is about making it easier for the top ranked teams to get to the final 4.
and it's not just about making the tourney better, it makes the smaller conference tournaments meaningful and exciting. Hell, we'd be in the damn dance right now if it were simply the top 64. How exciting would that be.
Its never been about the top65teams in the country. Its been about the top team in each conference and thebest 35ish in the country.jbulldog said:
Autobids from each conference are what makes the tournament so damn exciting. Sure thebottom 8 teams arent going to win a game, but theUNIs, Drakes, Valpos, Northwestern States, George Masons etc etc etc are what makes the tournamentgreat.
Though I do wish the play in game were the last 2 at large bids instead of the 2 worst teams regardless. These small schools all deserve to be in for winning their tournaments. Making the last two at large bids play in to the tournament would also make it more exciting on that Tuesday night
It always seems crappy that a team with an automatic bid is going to lose the play-in game and basically not even make the real tournament.
Just invite one less at-large team. The only reason they have the stupid game in the first place is because the WAC split into the MWC and the WAC and the big conferences would have to give up an at-large bid so they created the play-in game. Hell, there's already too many mediocre at-large teams in the tournament.
AceLeroy said:
And the Top teams DESERVE to have a gimme game in the opener. The automatic bids are part of what make the regular season still relevant. If you finish in the Top 16 and get a Top 4 seed, you get a much easier draw in the first game than the rest of the teams in the tourney, because you EARNED it. If it were a free for all, then the difference between a 3 seed and a 6 seed wouldn't matter all that much, and the close of the regular season wouldn't matter that much for teams already locked into a bid.
Vanderbilt and Tennessee right now are playing for seeding. If the tourney didn't have the automatic bids, it wouldn't matter that much to them right now. The fact that it has automatic bids makes it meaningful to get those top seeds and makes these final games for them have a lot more meaning.
No one has ever said it's the Top 65 teams. It's the Top 45 teams roughly plus the automatic bids. You don't need more than the Top 45. The only fans that complain about this are fans of bubble teams. If you aren't Top 45, you don't deserve a bid, and it's your own fault you aren't in.