Here's the reason I do not want to go to Hattiesburg. When other SEC teams (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, etc) play Southern, they do not have to go to Hattiesburg for a return game. Whether Southern likes it or not, we are in the SEC. Granted, we don't always play like it, however, I would guess the last SEC team to go to Hattiesburg was us. Southern has more than shown they are willing to play at an SEC stadium without demanding a return game. Play us here every year like you do every other SEC team and I'm fine with it.
Last SEC Team to play @ Hattiesburg?
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Here's the reason I do not want to go to Hattiesburg. When other SEC teams (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, etc) play Southern, they do not have to go to Hattiesburg for a return game. Whether Southern likes it or not, we are in the SEC. Granted, we don't always play like it, however, I would guess the last SEC team to go to Hattiesburg was us. Southern has more than shown they are willing to play at an SEC stadium without demanding a return game. Play us here every year like you do every other SEC team and I'm fine with it.
True, however, they have been doing this for quite some time now. Long before the 12 game schedule and astronomical guarantees came into play. I also understand that they have always been able to pay more than us. I guess it's just the principle of the thing to me.
when we played in 1990. I just did some research and I think Virginia is the only BCS school to visit Hattiesburg the past 2 seasons. NC State visited Hattiesburg in 2007, and guess what : both schools were beaten .
The only road non conference games I can remember in the last 15 years for Auburn were all part of home and homes. Georgia Tech, Virginia, USC, and Syracuse. Thinking about that, I believe Auburn lost all four games. I think we lost three of the four return games in Jordan Hare as well.
The issue is USM's willingness to go anywhere and play anybody....except MSU in Starkville without a return trip guaranteed. When they started all the "anywhere anytime" bs they never said anything about money.
If you want to talk money this makes no sense either. They will finally sell The Rock out because of the tickets that our fans buy, and then we will take less than half of what we would have earned here to travel there and play. There is huge upside for them in this win or lose. There is plenty of upside for us monetarily playing them here, but only downside to play them there.
If you want to talk money this makes no sense either. They will finally sell The Rock out because of the tickets that our fans buy, and then we will take less than half of what we would have earned here to travel there and play. There is huge upside for them in this win or lose. There is plenty of upside for us monetarily playing them here, but only downside to play them there.
The only thing that matters to us is that we make more money. And I can promise you that we'll make more money from this deal than they will. 14,000 more tickets to sell * $50 = $700K more money that we'll make than they will, and that's before adding concessions, parking, etc. We'll easily make more than $1M more than they will on this deal.
How much more would we make? Also like Yellowfeverdawg said, apparently this "anyone, anywhere" crap should be updated to read "anyone, anywhere, (except MSU who we will only go home and home with). Bottom line, we don't need them. They need us. They have no bargaining power in this situation.</p>
The whole point of negotiating a contract is to get the best deal you can for yourself. In a worst case scenario you should compromise for an even split. With that in mind our Athletic Department got handled in this one. Granting them a one and one is all upside for them and leaves substantial sums of money on the table for us. The worst deal we should have agreed to here is a two and one (and even that might not be enough).
Like Tailgate Hero said they need us considerably more than we need them. I also doubt that anyone gave them $1M to play. May be wrong, but based on national averages they probably get half that in most games of this nature. As this is a guaranteed sellout for us we could at least do $400K and as this game would almost certainly come with TV coverage maybe more.
Like Tailgate Hero said they need us considerably more than we need them. I also doubt that anyone gave them $1M to play. May be wrong, but based on national averages they probably get half that in most games of this nature. As this is a guaranteed sellout for us we could at least do $400K and as this game would almost certainly come with TV coverage maybe more.
So does Southern. They will go anywhere in the SEC without a return trip except here (and possibly Ole Miss). This is not me making something up, this is fact. NO other SEC team will go to Hattiesburg and Southern is fine with this.
to pay them $1M+ for a buy game. In case you haven't noticed, Mississippi is playing 2 I-AA teams this season for very much the same reason we're playing USM (can't afford $1M+ buy games) and they have a larger stadium, more attendance, and more money than we do. But just saying we should be able to play USM on a home only basis just because Bama, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, and Florida can without even trying to take into consideration the considerable differences between us and them is just ignoring the obvious.
I'm not trying to be an ***, but doesn't the fact that MSU has and will play at UAB, Houston, Memphis and Tulane sort of cancel the whole "WE'RE IN THE SEC!!!" argument.
In other words, if your gonna try to play the SEC card on USM, you probably shouldn't have already played in half the stadiums in C-USA even before the economics of CFB changed...
EDITED: because the last part didn't make any sense...
From the Sun Herald
The Golden Eagles, looking for a home game in 2011, offered a home-and-home series with the Bulldogs instead of a two-for-one deal with the second game being played at Scott Field in Starkville.</p> <p style="font-weight: bold;">"I have made the statement before that we would be interested in an arrangement for a home-and-home series,'' Giannini said. "As long as they do it with Memphis, Houston, Tulane and UAB, that would be the fair thing to do."</p> <p style="font-weight: bold;">
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The Golden Eagles, looking for a home game in 2011, offered a home-and-home series with the Bulldogs instead of a two-for-one deal with the second game being played at Scott Field in Starkville.</p> <p style="font-weight: bold;">"I have made the statement before that we would be interested in an arrangement for a home-and-home series,'' Giannini said. "As long as they do it with Memphis, Houston, Tulane and UAB, that would be the fair thing to do."</p> <p style="font-weight: bold;">
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