Leach is the winningest coach in TT history. He has 113 wins as a head coach and you guys are acting like he's garbage. Stoops is also 0-1 vs Southern Miss for an interesting tidbit.
Leach getting a dose of reality
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How many are after Stoops? Leach is different and his personality turns some people off. His issue at TT is why he's all the way up in the corner of the country coaching WSU.
Its got nothing to do with Stoops. If Stoops were fired tomorrow, going after Leach would impress no one. You are fixated on Stoops. Why does a discussion about Leach have to involve Stoops with you?
And, I would be highly surprised if Oregon goes after Leach.
In fairness, the Southern Miss team we lost to has proven to be dominant, to say the least. Alabama wouldn't want any part of them.
Also, just because I don't think Leach is a savior doesn't mean that I don't think he is a good coach. As a matter of fact, I have stated he is a good coach. Just not a great one. Also, Stoops took over one of the worst jobs in the country, in the hardest conference in the country, and is only in his 4th year as a head coach for his career. So experience alone says Leach should be better. The fact that he isn't that much better in a weak conference (and yes, it is weak no matter how much you claim it isn't) with players that are equivalent to the players they play against and more in some cases, he has multiple losses to FCS teams, and he hasn't consistently beaten ranked teas like you claim, proves to me that he wouldn't be much better if at all better than what Stoops is doing.
It's not that the guy can't coach. But he wasn't coming here. If he leaves a program after one season, what would make you think he wouldn't do the same to us?
Stoops has done a pretty good job here. He has had a good season for sure after the start, all while learning on the job. The biggest complaints now are wasting five seconds when we win by not calling a timeout. Although nationally we might be ranking ahead of leach at wsu in recruiting. We are still coming in the bottom 20 percent in the league.
I'm not saying leach wouldn't win here, or he wouldn't. But the blind support for a guy who hasn't beat anyone, is kinda silly. The grass ain't always greener on the other side. Some of his reasons for not recruiting well is he doesn't relate to a lot of kids. We see how much talent matters in the sec. we've been losing for 30 years in this conference and talent wise compared to the league look as good as ever.
Yes stoops has made mistakes. But so has everyone of coaching. Stoops took advantage of a down league, the same as leach has. Just happens the talent in this league is way ahead of that out west.
Supporting a coach who has us improving every year is what we as fans should do. Not looking to bring up coaches who in our minds might of been available whether they was or not to scream look at me. Both took over dumpster fires, both are moving in the right direction. But the PAC 12 is alittle easier to build in than the sec. and I bet at the end of the season we will be playing more bowl teams than Washington state.
Stoops has done a pretty good job here. He has had a good season for sure after the start, all while learning on the job. The biggest complaints now are wasting five seconds when we win by not calling a timeout. Although nationally we might be ranking ahead of leach at wsu in recruiting. We are still coming in the bottom 20 percent in the league.
I'm not saying leach wouldn't win here, or he wouldn't. But the blind support for a guy who hasn't beat anyone, is kinda silly. The grass ain't always greener on the other side. Some of his reasons for not recruiting well is he doesn't relate to a lot of kids. We see how much talent matters in the sec. we've been losing for 30 years in this conference and talent wise compared to the league look as good as ever.
Yes stoops has made mistakes. But so has everyone of coaching. Stoops took advantage of a down league, the same as leach has. Just happens the talent in this league is way ahead of that out west.
Supporting a coach who has us improving every year is what we as fans should do. Not looking to bring up coaches who in our minds might of been available whether they was or not to scream look at me. Both took over dumpster fires, both are moving in the right direction. But the PAC 12 is alittle easier to build in than the sec. and I bet at the end of the season we will be playing more bowl teams than Washington state.
What does southern miss have to do with anything? I am sure they could beat eastern Washington. Southern miss has been a good program for years.
Dude, get over yourself. Leach was 84-43 at Texas Tech. They're 45-43 since he left. Obviously, he sucks. I mean, they had won 5 bowl games in their entire history before he got there. Alabama fans are beyond jealous of the success they had. Any moron could win in that remote corner of west Texas. Get a clue about football before posting for crying out loud.
I am not fixated, I am jus not as sold on his ability as you are. I truly want him to succeed.
Apparently you've been asleep this entire season. That USM team you speak of held the Texas-San Antonio Roadrunners to 55 points. And remember that Charlotte team that was only down by 56 to U o L at halftime? USM only lost to them by 11 points. They're a dominant team, to say the least. I'm appalled you don't see that.
There are reasons (and I do not know and will not speculate) why Leach was passed over for so many jobs while he was unemployed. Just like in the wastelands of West Texas, he is probably better off tucked away in a locale like Pullman.
Stop making excuses. Just because Pullman is almost 300 miles from Seattle and a plane flight from any other place you could even hope to find a player is no excuse. Stop settling for the brutal mediocrity that his 17-8 record over the last two years there represents. You think we'd be happy with that shat here? When are you people going to quit carrying the water for this clown?
We still scored 30 a game with Bonner. If that's sputtering sign me up. Besides don't most offenses sputter after losing a Heisman candidate QB and the best WR in school history? And by the way we lost Leach as OC. That in hind sight seems to matter. Leach might be more Air Raid than Mumme was in reality. Brent Peace just wasn't a legit substitute.
You just contradicted yourself. So maybe the reason they scored so.much was due to the players, not the OC?
Excellent point. Their one loss came in overtime at North Dakota State, who won at Iowa. And before some idiot tries to make something of that, let it be known that Iowa is only 8-4, winning tonight by 30 against the #17 ranked team and beating Michigan who is currently in the CFP top four. Long story short, they couldn't hang within 100 of Southrrn Miss.
Yeah, kinda like snice we held Alabama to their lowest point total all year, then we are the best defense we have played. Gotcha. Again, if we lost to freaking FCS eastern Washington, you and you hater crew would be ready to riot until Barnhart ran stoops out of town.
Brilliant point. Even though we didn't riot when Stoops lost to an inferior team to EWU. Hey, at least we're not talking about that clown Leach anymore.
Again, no proof they are inferior. Just like there is no proof Leach would.do better than Stoops. You can go to bed now.
There's no proof Santa Claus doesn't exist either but I still go buy toys to put under the tree because I have a brain.
I don't understand why fans continue to hype this controversy! Coach Leach is not an option for UK as we have a coach!
I'm pretty sure if Leach was at Bama this year, Bama would have the same record. Washington State University is no University of Alabama. Just look, it's only a rare occasion that whomever coaches Bama is better than anyone in the country. Just like Cal at UK..
1 reason only: his lawsuit against TT. there were no Leach created issues at TT. But TT figured he was a short timer there and they couldn't match a big school offer. So they tried to use a non issue as cause to fire and cheat him out of a bonus. so he sued. that's why it took as long as it did and he wound up in so far away a spot.
Well, we could walk you through the coaches that have defied that opinion, but let's just say your wrong.