Did anybody see the apology CML tweeted out this afternoon? Or what he posted that was so damn offensive?
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He posted a meme in which an old lady was knitting a "scarf" for her husband during quarantine. When you clicked on the picture and saw the scarf, it turned out to be a noose. And a few of our black football players immediately took offense to it.
Am so sick of this crap. That meme has been all over Facebook. It is a direct insinuation that wives and husbands are stick together for long periods of time and meant to be funny!
Damn people are freaking ridiculous!!!
Damn people are freaking ridiculous!!!
Was it a race thing? My first thought when I saw it was "hmmm, we have had a former player murdered this year and another commit suicide. Maybe poor timing for this..."
I laughed anyway though.
I laughed anyway though.
I mean the dang meme clearly states it with the photo. She said she was knitting a scarf for her “husband”! Not a black person! Not a Brown person! Not a poor person! HER DAMN HUSBAND! If we truly had black players on our team that got offended by that, then those dumb asses must have been the ones who needed a tutor to take their test. Screw em.
I've seen it. It was funny. It very clearly was making fun of all the couples who are now with each other 24/7. I mean it had the actual words that would tell anyone capable of reading exactly what it was about.
You absolutely have to programmed for racism to see anything racist about it. We are a society with many who do not think critically at all. They are mere puppets of someones agenda. It is sad.
How in the world did you associate that meme with a player being murdered and one committing suicide? I mean other than it alluded to someones impending death. So do COVID statistics on death rate...
Leach is receiving nothing but praise in his apology tweet.
On the other hand, the sociology professor that complained about the tweet is receiving a Twitter beat down. Her mentions are rough.
On the other hand, the sociology professor that complained about the tweet is receiving a Twitter beat down. Her mentions are rough.
The joke is either that shes going to hang herself or murder her husband. Like I said, I have a pretty dark sense of humor so I laughed, but I can understand why people who knew De'Runnya or PJ (or any other murder or suicide victims) might not find it funny. As I was laughing at the Tweet, those two players flashed in my mind and I wondered if I should stop laughing.
I have idolized Leach for over a decade and will never say or think anything negative about him, but he probably should not have posted this. I still love him as much as ever, so no worries.
The racial angle never occurred to me until I saw it here.
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^^^THIS! There must be a sensitivity coaching clinic that says, now if you ever see a noose in any context, you can be certain that it is a racist affront to freedom made by some clinger on to old south traditions and lynching. You raise hell and do your best to ruin their lives even if the compete entirety of the rest of their life speaks against them being a racist. The noose is a double secret symbol that they really are racist at heart. No exceptions.
Amen. I'd apologize and they would be on my short list for guys who had to be exceptional on and off the field or might not have a spot for them. I don't need idiot pot stirrers on my team.
it's really sad that our society has come to this. I understand what you're saying and agree with the premise but anyone that is truly offended by this is a really ignorant human being.
Of course Leach didn't, and what player is saying he did? None that I see (assuming they didn't delete). This is probably the board melting down over nothing again.
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with him posting what he posted. The joke was about marital strife, not nooses. That is right in line with other things he posts. Nooses are not in line with other things he posts. To be offended by that particular meme is someone just looking to claim offense and they, and like minded, are a huge part of what is wrong with this country!
It's ok for people not to like jokes about murder and suicide, actually. Especially in the aftermath of losing beloved football players in that way. I'm not one of those people, but I can understand why someone would be.
Now if people are trying to spin this into Leach being a Klansman or something like that, obviously that's ridiculous. But who's doing that? A couple of random people on Twitter who may be trolls or bots anyway? As is often the case, it looks like the patented Six Pack Countermeltdown is bigger than the "meltdown" that spawned it.
Nothing good ever comes of Twitter.
If a black person sees a noose and thinks lynching, I'm not going to tell them they're wrong for feeling that way. I just try my best to see things from their point of view.
No way Leach meant anything by this - he's constantly just reposting Facebook memes on Twitter. I've got no problem with that, it's part of his weird old man charm. But he did unintentionally step in it this time. Welcome to the big leagues coach - everything he says and does will be under a microscope more than it ever was a TTU or WSU.
I'm glad he quickly churned out the apology. Knowing what I know about Leach, it absolutely killed him to have to do so, and it's taking a lot of restraint for him not to go on a rant that would get him in even more trouble. Might be Cohen forcing his hand.
If a black person sees a noose and thinks lynching, I'm not going to tell them they're wrong for feeling that way. I just try my best to see things from their point of view.
No way Leach meant anything by this - he's constantly just reposting Facebook memes on Twitter. I've got no problem with that, it's part of his weird old man charm. But he did unintentionally step in it this time. Welcome to the big leagues coach - everything he says and does will be under a microscope more than it ever was a TTU or WSU.
I'm glad he quickly churned out the apology. Knowing what I know about Leach, it absolutely killed him to have to do so, and it's taking a lot of restraint for him not to go on a rant that would get him in even more trouble. Might be Cohen forcing his hand.
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That's not exactly a racial allegation, or even an expression of offense necessarily. Can you link me to it?
A few responses
I don't think Leach's tweet was racist, nor have I seen anyone say that Leach is racist for tweeting it. That's a straw man.
What people have said, however, is that the tweet was racially insensitive (which is not the same thing). Why might some people think that? Instead of immediately lashing out at the "PC police," let's consider it. The joke is that the wife is knitting a "scarf" that is actually a noose -- i.e., her husband is going to be hanged. Why might a black person think a joke about a hanging isn't very funny? It could be, perhaps, that more than 4,000 black people were lynched (or hanged) in the American South between the end of the Civil War and the 1950s. The last lynching was in 1981.
So it could be, perhaps, that we have to consider the context and experiences through which different people with different backgrounds view different symbols. To a black Southerner whose family or community may have been directly impacted by racially motivated hangings just one or two generations ago, a noose is not a symbol that inspires many laughs. If you don't come at it with that context, it can be very easy to say "I don't get the big deal. The meme explains itself." Rather than criticize people for seeing things differently, wouldn't it be better to stop and ask yourself, "Can I better understand why this person feels the way that he does?"
Just my two cents.
I don't think Leach's tweet was racist, nor have I seen anyone say that Leach is racist for tweeting it. That's a straw man.
What people have said, however, is that the tweet was racially insensitive (which is not the same thing). Why might some people think that? Instead of immediately lashing out at the "PC police," let's consider it. The joke is that the wife is knitting a "scarf" that is actually a noose -- i.e., her husband is going to be hanged. Why might a black person think a joke about a hanging isn't very funny? It could be, perhaps, that more than 4,000 black people were lynched (or hanged) in the American South between the end of the Civil War and the 1950s. The last lynching was in 1981.
So it could be, perhaps, that we have to consider the context and experiences through which different people with different backgrounds view different symbols. To a black Southerner whose family or community may have been directly impacted by racially motivated hangings just one or two generations ago, a noose is not a symbol that inspires many laughs. If you don't come at it with that context, it can be very easy to say "I don't get the big deal. The meme explains itself." Rather than criticize people for seeing things differently, wouldn't it be better to stop and ask yourself, "Can I better understand why this person feels the way that he does?"
Just my two cents.
Leach should not have posted the meme because he recruits in the ruthless SEC. however, anyone that truly got offended by his meme is an absolute 17'ing idiot. There is no other way to put it.
Absolute idiots that we may need on our football team or an absolute idiot whose son, nephew, or cousin we may need on our football team.
CML is still better at Twittter than Trump... but probably not by much.
Holy Crap
in our politically correct and overly politicized environment we unfortunately live in today some of the responses and accusations to the tweet border on insanity. I’m just wondering when Webster’s will be required to remove any remotely offensive words from the dictionary.
in our politically correct and overly politicized environment we unfortunately live in today some of the responses and accusations to the tweet border on insanity. I’m just wondering when Webster’s will be required to remove any remotely offensive words from the dictionary.
I can’t. I don’t copy tweets and store them for funsies.
On twitter in the last hour, I’ve seen the CL has a story on it and I saw Dan Wolken comment on it.
His tweet had nothing to do about race. It was a play in quarantining with your significant other and the stress that sometimes can cause. But a noose is symbolic of something that gets a reaction from a faction of the population.
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