LeBron to Sixers
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Damn, I really wanted to root for them too. Now I can’t.
It makes sense for someone hoping to claim undue credit for a title.
The Sixers were already gonna be a title favorite for next year with the addition of a superstar in Jaylen Brown, All Stars Maxey and Embiid, and a budding star in Edgecombe. But not many people realized it yet.
So now it will look like LeBron is the guy who pushed them over the top and won them the title, when that’s actually a team perfectly capable of winning the title without him.
The Sixers were already gonna be a title favorite for next year with the addition of a superstar in Jaylen Brown, All Stars Maxey and Embiid, and a budding star in Edgecombe. But not many people realized it yet.
So now it will look like LeBron is the guy who pushed them over the top and won them the title, when that’s actually a team perfectly capable of winning the title without him.
LeBron is just trying to win another title or 2 if they somehow went back to back. He wants 6 like Jordan. Jordan lives rent free n his head.
Sounds more like LeBron is living in your head.
This except LeBron will be the one who prevents them from winning. He is going to talk the ball out of the hands of some other very team first guys.
Unless he is coming off the bench, this is the poison pill that just sunk their hopes.
LeBron going to the most loaded team possible lol. I am sure Bronny won't be far behind
Maybe capable but if they win now it will look like he made a real difference.
I was hoping he would play with Bam.
“BREAKING: Sixers Trade Maxey for Bronny”
I'm a little surprised; I expected him to go back to Cleveland. Philly isn't the lock some seem to think; it's been a long time since Embiid played 40 games in a season and Lebron's workload will be managed.
lol. I bet Luka wouldn’t mind that.
No, others are agreeing with me. LeBron has a jordan complex.
Hes never gonna be as good as Jordan. Hes not as clutch.
That’s probably, on paper at least, the best starting 5 of all time. Embiid has to stay healthy though or it won’t matter.
Spoiler: it’s probably not going to matter. Embiid has been in the league 12 season and played more than 60 games only 4 times. Played in more than half the games only 6 times and averages just under 41 games played.
I feel for Sixers fans. Because he’s going to be one of the biggest what ifs of all time. Especially watching guys like Maxey and Edgecomb waste their careers next to him and now probably going to have to see the best starting lineup on paper in history fall short because of it too.
I hope they get it though because i’d like to see Maxey get a ring. Hes way up there among our most likeable former players in recent history.
Wow, best starting 5 of all time? Sheesh.
You gonna put the Sixers lineup over the 87-88 Lakers? That team had:
PG - Magic Johnson (a 6'8" PG who averaged 20 ppg, 12 boards, 6 assists and 1.5 steals)
SG - Byron Scott (21.7 ppg, 4 boards, 4 assists and 4 steals)
SF - James Worthy (19.7 ppg, 5 boards, 4 assists, and 1 steal)
PF - A.C. Green (11.4 ppg, 9 boards, and assist and a steal a game)
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabaar (14.6 ppg, 6 boards, 2 assists, a over a block a game)
Honorable mentions to the 86-87 Boston Celtics with Johnson, Ainge, Bird, Parrish and McHale... and the 69-70 Lakers that had Wilt, West, and Elgin Baylor.
I mean the Sixers roster is good on paper, but not even close to those all time giants.
Let’s compare position by position.
Pg. Magic > Maxey.
Sg. Scott > Edgecomb
Sf Worthy < Brown
pf Green < Lebron
c Kareem > Embiid
It’s pretty close. I’m only giving 40 year old Kareem the nod over Embiid becuause he played 80 games and theres zero chance Embiid gets close to that.
But Lebron even at 41 is lapping AC Green.
Scott and Edgecomb is pretty close as Edgecomb was a rookie and still averaged 16 a game. Stands to reason Edgecomb is going to improve significantly from his first year.
Worthy was an All Star that year. But Brown was a 1st team all NBA and top 5 mvp candidate. I’m sorry but that’s not really close. Brown gets a lot of hate but he is a great player at his peak.
Magic over Maxey but that’s closer than many will admit. Maxey avg 28 a game and was 3rd all nba while Magic was first and an mvp candidate.
On PAPER, i’m still giving the nod to the sixers because the gap between Lebron and AC Green is substantially larger than any other.
But it also depends on Embiids health. at the end of the season, when Embiid inevitably misses half the games, it’ll probably the Lakers. But then it will no longer be on paper.
Smart move by him. 76ers wrre the best on-paper roster for him to potentially win another title. Will be interesting to see how it all comes together.
If I was Lebron, I would do whatever it takes to get that 5th or even 6th ring. If that means coming off the bench to dominate the 2nd units, than so be it.
If I was Lebron, I would do whatever it takes to get that 5th or even 6th ring. If that means coming off the bench to dominate the 2nd units, than so be it.
in 85-86 (leading into that 86-87 starting lineup):
Magic was an All-Star, NBA 1st Team, and finished 3rd in MVP voting
Worthy was an All-Star, NBA 3rd Team (designated as ORV back then), and finished 12th in MVP voting. The guys who beat out Worthy for All-NBA 1st and 2nd team that year at SF? The MVP Larry Bird and Charles Barkley (6th in MVP voting).
Kareem was an All-Star, 1st Team NBA, and finished 5th in MVP voting
Scott was splitting starts and playing time with Michael Cooper (4th in 6 MOY voting, 2nd Team All-Defense), AC Green was not the expected starter (on paper at PF for 86-87) he had only played 18 minutes a game and started a single game in 85-86. Kurt Rambis was the starter and expected to be going into 86-87 ironically. You could give these two to the current projected Sixers without much argument straight up, but Scott had a year much better than expected, and Michael Cooper (who on paper should have been the starter) backed up Scott and Copper won Defensive Player of the Year coming in to back up Scott as the first guy off the bench. He finished 3rd that year in 6th Man Award, and of course was 1st Team all-defense. So the Shooting Guard spot is really tough to compare because you had a 3 point sniper swap subbing with the Defensive Player of the Year. Edgecomb is neither.
But comparing eras is really difficult, especially when the rules are different now. Not saying one is better than the other, but they are different flavors of the same drink.
Magic was an All-Star, NBA 1st Team, and finished 3rd in MVP voting
Worthy was an All-Star, NBA 3rd Team (designated as ORV back then), and finished 12th in MVP voting. The guys who beat out Worthy for All-NBA 1st and 2nd team that year at SF? The MVP Larry Bird and Charles Barkley (6th in MVP voting).
Kareem was an All-Star, 1st Team NBA, and finished 5th in MVP voting
Scott was splitting starts and playing time with Michael Cooper (4th in 6 MOY voting, 2nd Team All-Defense), AC Green was not the expected starter (on paper at PF for 86-87) he had only played 18 minutes a game and started a single game in 85-86. Kurt Rambis was the starter and expected to be going into 86-87 ironically. You could give these two to the current projected Sixers without much argument straight up, but Scott had a year much better than expected, and Michael Cooper (who on paper should have been the starter) backed up Scott and Copper won Defensive Player of the Year coming in to back up Scott as the first guy off the bench. He finished 3rd that year in 6th Man Award, and of course was 1st Team all-defense. So the Shooting Guard spot is really tough to compare because you had a 3 point sniper swap subbing with the Defensive Player of the Year. Edgecomb is neither.
But comparing eras is really difficult, especially when the rules are different now. Not saying one is better than the other, but they are different flavors of the same drink.
You don't think Lebron ran that due diligence on Joel?
This recipe is simple - they have three young horses to carry them through the regular season to no less than a 4 seed. You load manage Lebron and Joel to be ready for April. May not even need both of them full throttle early in the playoffs.
As for best roster of all-time. They have two MVP's on the roster, as well as two other all-nba team members. And perhaps one of the 5 best young players in the league. At their peaks, this Sixer's team on paper might be better. Issue is Lebron and Embiid are not at their peaks, and these guys are playing together for the first time.
LeBron always joins the best team he can find. I’m shocked he took such a pay cut this time.
It all hinges on Embiid for me. If he can just get close to 60 games it goes to the sixers.
For his CAREER he averages 27/11 and 2 blocks. Has led the league in scoring twice, won an mvp and finished top 2 two other teams. But man…there’s a lot of truth to the saying the best ability is availability.
I also maybe overrating Maxey a little because he’s one of our guys.
But i do remember James Worthy playing. I think Worthy is the equivalent of Draymond Green. He was a great role player on a dynasty. But never a star.
The sixers team on Paper has 4 probsbly Hall of Fame locks. And Edgecomb being a top 3 RoY finisher gives his career trajectory a nice chance at that but way too early to tell for sure ofcourse.
If he ran any due diligence on embiid i hope he looked at how little hes been healthy in his career. Even when he plays he just chucks threes because he can't move. Hes worthless. That's why I said theyre way better off if he doesn't play and just retires.
And for the very reason you stated, this is where I expected him to go ever since the brown trade. I just looked at the rosters and thought this would be his best chance at a ring. Ol ringchaser.
The man is a billionaire. The pay means nothing now.
This is all about trying to add to his ring count. That’s the only reason he’s still playing.
The second unit is what I question here besides Embiid health which is the biggest one. Wade and Barlow are really solid non-stats guys and Simons can have some punch. Can Philon hit? I feel they aren't done with the roster but agree, this was best of the teams he was interested in (Spurs was best at how cheap he was willing to go)
Lebron always wants to win. But I don’t think he went to LA or back to Cleveland because those were his best options as far as winning. When he went to Miami…yeah…that was…”my best chance to build a dynasty is here”.
But LA i think was more about marketing himself while ALSO having a good chance to win. Going back to Cleveland was wanting to win one for the hometown and where he started his career.
Philly right now is 100% “best team on paper”.
I’m actually okay with that. He wants to win and has accepted hes not a first option on a champion anymore.
But LA i think was more about marketing himself while ALSO having a good chance to win. Going back to Cleveland was wanting to win one for the hometown and where he started his career.
Philly right now is 100% “best team on paper”.
I’m actually okay with that. He wants to win and has accepted hes not a first option on a champion anymore.
Well you can count the Sixers out for winning a championship for the next two years.
I think thats why you have to have someone come off the bench. Theres too many mouths to feed in the first unit. Jaylen Brown or Lebron being on the 2nd unit, makes that 2nd unit the best in the NBA.
But if you put all the talent on the 1st unit, then that weak bench is going to give up leads. I think you have to spread it out.
This is the vibe I get from the current Lebron saga.....