Only totaled 2mins today according ESPN box score. He does have a tendency to not be ready to catch a pass. He made that same mistake twice today in a short window. He needs to learn to focus. Give the kid some Adderall because if he could match his focus with his athleticism he could be the next WCS/Noel type player.
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Yeah, he made two early mistakes and then turned it over to cap it off. Don't think Cal was too happy with his play. Hope he gets it back for the tourney run like he did last year. He can be a force inside if he's focused.
Hmm, yeah didn't notice that. I think he and Dakari need to return anyway but would love to see him blossom in the post-season.
Personally, I thought today would've been a good game for Lee to get good minutes. Florida does not have any big bodies inside so Lee wouldn't be over-powered by bulk. Oh well, what do I know.
It feels like we are down to a 7-8 man rotation. Lee & Dakari are for spot minutes only at this point. I was really hoping for more from those two, especially with all the playing time they got early in the season. I still feel like either could come in and provide big minutes though.
And that's fine. UK is better doing it that way. All the people who said we were so much better platooning have disappeared.
DJ and Lee will have their moments, and despite what I said above I think we could see the last gasp of platooning in any real form or fashion this week at the SEC Tourney due to 3 games in 3 days.
I love him on defense but he has no polish on the offensive end. Can only make layups and dunks. And his FT's are an adventure to say the least. I love the guy but we simply have better players at his position right now. Next year he will see many more minutes and hopefully has some time to work on his post game.
^I think capitalism would be a better analogy, since the players get what they earn rather than what they think they deserve or are entitled to.
Once the tourney begins, i doubt he'll see double digit minutes. This will probably happen til seasons end.
He can't be trusted out there. KAT & WCS need as many minutes as possible, and someone not bringing much to the court can;t take that away from them.
He can't be trusted out there. KAT & WCS need as many minutes as possible, and someone not bringing much to the court can;t take that away from them.
In capitalism only the children of people who were already rich, plus about 1% of the rest ever get any real money. Then the people who already have money decide how much everyone else is worth and they get together in rooms to make sure they all screw the ones without money.
Well, those people disappeared when Alex went down. The platooning ended the day he got hurt and its a shame cause I really think it would have worked magically. Now, we still sub a ton and still are deep but the platooning itself ended that day in practice. I think we really miss Alex. I know that's tough to say when we are 31-0 but I think we would be even that much better with Alex.
IF WCS or KAT get in foul trouble our offense has to come from the guards more. Good thing is that our defense doesn't suffer except for blocked shots.
Lee does not have basic basketball skills. He gets by on pure athleticism. He is a prototypical AAU player. Run and dunk over people. Somehow that theory got him to the McDonald's All American game, but it can't get him any farther. He must work on basic basketball fundamentals if he ever wants to improve.
I. Wouldn't argue the points brought up against Lee playing more , but he's no where near the turnover machine that dakari is . Maybe it's not right to compare minutes as Lee isn't a 5 and dakari is . Just seems like DJ gets a pass for having horrible stretches and Lee gets the hook . No one is more offensively challenged that DJ at this point . As others have noted , he has regressed .
This post was edited on 3/8 8:38 AM by ManitouDan
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That's not true. There were tons of people on here still screaming for Cal to play Willis or Hawkins to keep it at 10 and 20 minutes per player.
Lee is who he is right now but take it to the bank he will make some major plays when the team needs it the next few weeks. He always seems to rise to the occasion when he has to.
I think you are wrong on this. Lee has shown flashes of developing post moves and touch around the basket. He has even knocked down a few jumpers here and there. It's just that he is on such a short leash due to the players above him that he doesn't get a chance to develop a rhythm.
I truly think that Marcus Lee and Derek Willis would be All-SEC level performers RIGHT NOW if they played significant minutes. That speaks to level of talent above them that they don't even see the floor on this team.
I'm for Lee seeing more minutes, but not a ton more. I really thought he helped us against Georgia when Dakari and WCS were shooting bricks or turning it over. But with Lyles playing some at the 4, it seems like Cal wants more than just a shot blocker/rebounder at his 4.
Dakari will have some huge games in the tourney ( 13 pts 10 reb type games) and he will have some games where he goes for 5 and 4 , Lee will have less of an impact but will also have a game or two where he goes for 8 and 6 . WE play 9 guys . Doesn''t mean for a certain game we play only 8 most of the time but if you look at the boxscores of the last 10 games we play 9 guys and for the most part they all get between 10-22 minutes. So no we are not down to any 7-8 rotation .
^The screed of every failure that can't earn his own way.
Around 86% of all millionaires in America are self-made men and women not born into money. "Worth" (value is actually a better term) is established by the demand for a product or service. This demand is an aggregate of the millions of individual wants and desires of the purchasing public. There are no back rooms on this one; a double cheeseburger is worth a dollar something because the public, for better or worse, believes it is worth a dollar something.Capitalists make their money by creating something that the public wants, the public then exchanges a value (currency) for a value (the product/service). The phones we text on, the TV's we watch, the computers we type on, each were created by someone in search of a profit. Hell, even the things provided by the government are only possible because they taxed income generated by profit. So, while socialist / re-distributive policies try to create a "greater good", capitalism actually delivers, all without shooting people in the back of the head and throwing them into a ditch. Capitalism is the most moral economic system because it is non-coercive. All forms of wealth redistribution require the state using force to take from one man and give to another, also known as theft (albeit by proxy). Force is the code of the thief, the thug, and the rapist; it's also at the heart of left-wing economics.
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LOL did someone say the platooning ended ? Wow . just wow . Ok i am going to try to do this without sounding condescending - We are platooning in every single game. If the game gets close at the end we go with who is hot . We are the big blue platoon . we were in the beginning ,we were in the middle and we are now. Platooning is take a group of players ( 3 -5 ) out and putting in another group . That is all. There is the blue platoon and the white and Lyles is on both now that Poy is out. This is all established fact. end of story.
That is very debatable, the offense certainly lacked flow at times platooning. The D was probably a little better, but that is more due to Poythress than platooning. Even with the 10 man rotation it was not platooning that won the Texas game, but rather going away from that to more conventional sub patterns. So it did not always result in some dominating win.
Once Poy got hurt, that system was dead despite it being utilized some at times in SEC play early on. UK is probably not quite as good overall as they were with Poy and the 10 man rotation, but honestly...Lee and DJ do not do enough to warrant the minutes to run a 9 man platoon at present. I'm sure Cal would love to play everyone about 22 minutes each, but this is not Communism. If Poy was still healthy I still think the rotation would be cut down at this point in the season to an extent...no way for either side to prove that point, but just IMO.
UK still does not play its guys as big of minutes as most other teams...which is great. That is why we continue to see UK being able to play lockdown D the last 10 minutes and tire the other team out and pull away or come back when down the last 1/4 of the game as at UGA and LSU.
Lee is little more skilled then we have fully seen. Can pass the ball as good as any of our bigs and has some handles. Of course his shot needs work. Go back and look at his mixtapes, there are skills to work with.
Absolutely not. No true capitalist would agree to the government manipulating the economy in that way.
Read Adam Smith to better understand the principles of capitalism.
It's all about "Laissez-faire" economics for me. The government needs to do just the bare minimum to keep the consumer safe and the market competitive.
Nothing more, nothing less.
But we really should keep the conversation about basketball, not economics since this is a basketball forum. I apologize for taking us further away from the actual topic of playing time.
This is dead on . He will be a be a top 20 pick but just needs to improve and work on the little things and just become as good at the foul line and that 15 footer as wcs has become.