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BobPSU92

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Look, Barry can be a jerk, and that's putting it kindly. But what the BOT has done is far worse--for the university and for the alumni. If you can only vote for the "allowed" candidates and you are not allowed to dissent in any way, shape, or form from the majority (and that is all in the new rules), then it's not a free democratic board. It's something else. A rubber stamp comes to mind. And who controls the stamp and for what reasons?

Some people actually believe that if trustees are cordial towards each other in public settings, then they must be good representatives of Penn State and must be acting in the best interests Penn State.

Apparently, the world has never seen nice people who are incompetent.
 

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It's not just that, as you would know if you've been reading my comments all along. Because Lubrano is next on the hit list. And I've noted the fact that no dissent is allowed and any public comment by a trustee other than the party line is prohibited on pain of dismissal from the board--and that's clearly stated in the new rules. I stand by my statement--and I actually visited East Germany and know folks from there. And he sued the board rightly. Trustees have a fiduciary right--nay DUTY, to see the books.

Again. Barry can be a jerk. And inappropriate. No disagreement there. But it's the principle here. Folks are not prohibited for running for public office in the US just because they make inappropriate comments or sue the government. Heck--look at some current politicians (pick your party--you'll find some)....

And the Board is NOT "largely symbolic". They handle and approve millions of dollars.

You have me on ignore. That means, you dislike my contributions so much, that even if I had the meaning of life at my fingertips, you'd rather not know. You want nothing to do with me, essentially, because I'm so disagreeable ... or whatever your assessment is.

And I'm a smart, successful, moral dude.

Barry is exponentially worse as a BoT member (and human) than I am as a poster. He's incompetent at his real job, as he's proven (begging for modest sums of money he should easily have on hand if he was decent with money ... and that whole tragically incorrect "goodwill" argument he put forth, as two obvious examples) ... and he has no idea what he's doing on the Board ... he just whines and criticizes at every turn, not knowing what he's whining or complaining about, and having no idea how to fix whatever perceived problem he's inventing. No reasonable BoT member wants him around. He's not a worthy devil's advocate, keeping folks in line and making sure decisions are fully vetted before being implemented. He's just a "look at me" complainer.

The BoT is acting like every other board would act when confronted with a similar situation, and they restructured themselves to mirror other Board's across the land and follow best practices ... and you guys want to try to characterize that in a negative light.

The BoT can't please you ... and they shouldn't try. They'd be doing themselves and the institution they represent a disservice to do so.
 
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It's not just that, as you would know if you've been reading my comments all along. Because Lubrano is next on the hit list. And I've noted the fact that no dissent is allowed and any public comment by a trustee other than the party line is prohibited on pain of dismissal from the board--and that's clearly stated in the new rules. I stand by my statement--and I actually visited East Germany and know folks from there. And he sued the board rightly. Trustees have a fiduciary right--nay DUTY, to see the books.

Again. Barry can be a jerk. And inappropriate. No disagreement there. But it's the principle here. Folks are not prohibited for running for public office in the US just because they make inappropriate comments or sue the government. Heck--look at some current politicians (pick your party--you'll find some)....

And the Board is NOT "largely symbolic". They handle and approve millions of dollars.

This is not the US government though. This is a University that has a reputational/brand problem dealing with a harassment/inappropriate conduct issue of a sitting board member. That same sitting board member also solicited donations from alumni of the institution to sue the institution.

This isn't a Hoi Polloi issue, this is a dude who has done reputational harm to himself and by proxy the university through his conduct.
 
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Yeah, Barry is the one who has harmed the reputation of the university. The stupidity. For f*ck’s sake.
THE one? Absolutely not - he's not meaningful enough to have that kind of effect. A one (and not the steak sauce)? Absolutely. It also reflects poorly on the alumni ... that they chose to have someone like that represent them ... and then, after it's clear he's a problem, and not a solution ... they continue to support him. It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to see the mistake, and dig your heels in and say "I'm standing by it" or "I'm even more fervently behind it now."
 
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THE one? Absolutely not - he's not meaningful enough to have that kind of effect. A one (and not the steak sauce)? Absolutely. It also reflects poorly on the alumni ... that they chose to have someone like that represent them ... and then, after it's clear he's a problem, and not a solution ... they continue to support him. It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to see the mistake, and dig your heels in and say "I'm standing by it" or "I'm even more fervently behind it now."

Noogy trying hard in his trolling. Notice how he only posts to political BOT issues on the board. He hardly every posts on anything about football or other sports. Remember folks don't feed the trolls. He has been hard creating other handles as well.
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This is not the US government though. This is a University that has a reputational/brand problem dealing with a harassment/inappropriate conduct issue of a sitting board member. That same sitting board member also solicited donations from alumni of the institution to sue the institution.

This isn't a Hoi Polloi issue, this is a dude who has done reputational harm to himself and by proxy the university through his conduct.
If it were just about Barry, you might have a point. But they are after Lubrano too. They already took steps to remove him as well. And they've made any public dissent an actionable offense. ANY. And, BTW, Barry won his suit regarding access to financials. As well he should have. He was right on that. What secrets are they keeping?? And to whose benefit?
 
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This is not the US government though. This is a University that has a reputational/brand problem dealing with a harassment/inappropriate conduct issue of a sitting board member. That same sitting board member also solicited donations from alumni of the institution to sue the institution.

This isn't a Hoi Polloi issue, this is a dude who has done reputational harm to himself and by proxy the university through his conduct.
Please be kidding. This University had an ex-drug dealer, who spent time in prison for this crime, as the Chairman of the Board. That guy only took things from the University.

Barry, may not always be a gentleman, but is certainly no criminal. Barry has done nothing but look out for the best interests of the University, unlike EVERY other Trustee.
 
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Please be kidding. This University had an ex-drug dealer, who spent time in prison for this crime, as the Chairman of the Board. That guy only took things from the University.

Barry, may not always be a gentleman, is certainly no criminal. Barry has done nothing but look out for the best interests of the University, unlike EVERY other Trustee.

The dickheadedness is staggering.
 

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Please be kidding. This University had an ex-drug dealer, who spent time in prison for this crime, as the Chairman of the Board. That guy only took things from the University.

Barry, may not always be a gentleman, is certainly no criminal. Barry has done nothing but look out for the best interests of the University, unlike EVERY other Trustee.
Barry has done nothing to look out for the 'best interests of the university'. I've called him out multiple times and will continue to do so. Barry looks out for Barry, has shown a shocking level of either gross incompetence or pure misunderstanding of a field he is supposed to be a professional in and, cost the university money and time by tying up resources (and soliciting alumni to sue the school he's supposed to represent) and behaved inappropriately towards a junior female staffer. All of this happened while he was acting as a representative as a member of the BOT.

I don't think Mark Dambly belongs on the board either, but if you're going to take things that far, I highly suggest you look into Barry's facebook posting history as well.
 
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If it were just about Barry, you might have a point. But they are after Lubrano too. They already took steps to remove him as well. And they've made any public dissent an actionable offense. ANY. And, BTW, Barry won his suit regarding access to financials. As well he should have. He was right on that. What secrets are they keeping?? And to whose benefit?

Barry won a preliminary injunction, not the lawsuit.
 

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This is not the US government though. This is a University that has a reputational/brand problem dealing with a harassment/inappropriate conduct issue of a sitting board member. That same sitting board member also solicited donations from alumni of the institution to sue the institution.

This isn't a Hoi Polloi issue, this is a dude who has done reputational harm to himself and by proxy the university through his conduct.
For those of you following along from home.....

@NorthernStatePSU = @Moogy = @barry j fenchak

This goofball has more monikers than that Pitt fan from Johnstown who used his VPN to generate hundreds of user names on the former BWI/Mc board during the Sandusky period.

@Moogy doesn't seem to have much of a life.:rolleyes:
 
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For those of you following along from home.....

@NorthernStatePSU = @Moogy

This goofball has more monikers than that Pitt fan from Johnstown who used his VPN to generate hundreds of user names on the former BWI/Mc board during the Sandusky period.

@Moogy doesn't seem to have much of a life.:rolleyes:
Exactly ... His wording is exactly the same as Noogy. Poor attempt at trolling
 

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For those of you following along from home.....

@NorthernStatePSU = @Moogy

This goofball has more monikers than that Pitt fan from Johnstown who used his VPN to generate hundreds of user names on the former BWI/Mc board during the Sandusky period.

@Moogy doesn't seem to have much of a life.:rolleyes:
Thanks, I must have been asleep at the wheel. I'll take care of this right away.
 
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For those of you following along from home.....

@NorthernStatePSU = @Moogy

This goofball has more monikers than that Pitt fan from Johnstown who used his VPN to generate hundreds of user names on the former BWI/Mc board during the Sandusky period.

@Moogy doesn't seem to have much of a life.:rolleyes:

You’re so far down the rabbit hole that you think people who disagree with you aren’t real. You’re another one who needs to seek professional help.

By the way, I have a name, wasn’t on BWI during the scandal, have plenty of people on these boards who can vouch for that because we’ve tailgated and met in person.

Go ahead and ask any site writer here. I have a paid account if you don’t believe me…
 
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You’re so far down the rabbit hole that you think people who disagree with you aren’t real. You’re another one who needs to seek professional help.

By the way, I have a name, wasn’t on BWI during the scandal, have plenty of people on these boards who can vouch for that because we’ve tailgated and met in person.

Go ahead and ask any site writer here. I have a paid account if you don’t believe me…
We all have different opinions on the topic. But suggesting that someone needs professional help because their opinion differs from yours?? That makes you little different from what you're complaining about with Barry. We can disagree without the name calling.
 
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Noogy trying hard in his trolling. Notice how he only posts to political BOT issues on the board. He hardly every posts on anything about football or other sports. Remember folks don't feed the trolls. He has been hard creating other handles as well.
troll 1986 GIF by absurdnoise
It’s better than you and the rest of this board having circle jerks over a pedo or a dead football coach
 
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For those of you following along from home.....

@NorthernStatePSU = @Moogy

This goofball has more monikers than that Pitt fan from Johnstown who used his VPN to generate hundreds of user names on the former BWI/Mc board during the Sandusky period.

@Moogy doesn't seem to have much of a life.:rolleyes:

I had you on ignore, but based on the responses from others, I figured you were posting something remarkably dumb and accusatory, so I showed ignored content.

How about we do this, since you've been accusing me of being every other poster who has been the least bit critical of Barry ... we have @Tom McAndrew verify if I am any other current active user on this site ... if I am not, you and all your current and future iterations of yourself (and we know there have been, and will be, many of those) and @Bwifan will be permanently banned from the site? If I’m shown to be anyone else on this site, Tom bans me and any potential future iterations.

Deal?

It's quite telling that a known and proven doxxer ... and then a perpetual attempted doxxer who has repeatedly failed ... is in Barry's corner. It's time for you to go, for good.

I have no other active/current aliases on this site besides Moogy. I haven't since I established this name. None of the people you've accused me of being are me. I have no idea if they are each other, nor do I care, but they aren't me.

Take the bet. Don't come up with excuses ... don’t be a coward … take the bet.
 
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That's really inappropriate.

Joe's been dead for over a decade. I've let that go. So has the family. This issue, for me, is all about current governance, not the past.
The issue IS, and always has been, Joe. You had a $50M naming rights deal, and the usual suspects - who you support and who are at issue here - could only focus on JoePa. They gave repeated soliloquys devoted to JoePa when the issue of the naming rights was discussed before the board vote. Something that really had nothing to do with JoePa was turned into a JoePa fest.

Again, as I've stated, if not for the topic of JoePa, practically NO ONE would be supporting these various alumni trustees. Hell, the Barry brigade flipped out and raged against folks like Ali Kreiger, and demanded she not be re-elected, only because she failed to honor JoePa by not voting "no" as to the naming rights deal.

The issue, for virtually every single Barry supporter, is current governance not honoring JoePa as they see fit. That's it. All the other supposed wrongs the BoT commit are meaningless and would be ignored/not concocted if the BoT was fawning over JoePa, and placing old statues front and center, constructing new statues, naming everything after Joe and Sue, and standing up and proclaiming "JoePa is a golden god, and he's never done anything wrong!"

And folks were willing to embrace an absolute slug like Barry, solely because he pushed the pro-JoePa narrative. They were willing to overlook that he's a terrible human being just because of this one issue. That's crazy.
 

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We all have different opinions on the topic. But suggesting that someone needs professional help because their opinion differs from yours?? That makes you little different from what you're complaining about with Barry. We can disagree without the name calling.
He needs professional help because he thinks I’m not a real person.
 

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I had you on ignore, but based on the responses from others, I figured you were posting something remarkably dumb and accusatory, so I showed ignored content.

How about we do this, since you've been accusing me of being every other poster who has been the least bit critical of Barry ... we have @Tom McAndrew verify if I am any other current active user on this site ... if I am not, you and all your current and future iterations of yourself (and we know there have been, and will be, many of those) and @Bwifan will be permanently banned from the site?

Deal?

It's quite telling that a known and proven doxxer ... and then a perpetual attempted doxxer who has repeatedly failed ... is in Barry's corner. It's time for you to go, for good.

I have no other active/current aliases on this site besides Moogy. I haven't since I established this name. None of the people you've accused me of being are me. I have no idea if they are each other, nor do I care, but they aren't me.

Take the bet. Don't come up with excuses ... take the bet.
There's good ol' Noogy...
I had you on ignore, but based on the responses from others, I figured you were posting something remarkably dumb and accusatory, so I showed ignored content.

How about we do this, since you've been accusing me of being every other poster who has been the least bit critical of Barry ... we have @Tom McAndrew verify if I am any other current active user on this site ... if I am not, you and all your current and future iterations of yourself (and we know there have been, and will be, many of those) and @Bwifan will be permanently banned from the site? If I’m shown to be anyone else on this site, Tom bans me and any potential future iterations.

Deal?

It's quite telling that a known and proven doxxer ... and then a perpetual attempted doxxer who has repeatedly failed ... is in Barry's corner. It's time for you to go, for good.

I have no other active/current aliases on this site besides Moogy. I haven't since I established this name. None of the people you've accused me of being are me. I have no idea if they are each other, nor do I care, but they aren't me.

Take the bet. Don't come up with excuses ... don’t be a coward … take the bet.

Looks like I touched a nerve with the troll.... This is hilarious. Getting better keep trying little fella.
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I had you on ignore, but based on the responses from others, I figured you were posting something remarkably dumb and accusatory, so I showed ignored content.

How about we do this, since you've been accusing me of being every other poster who has been the least bit critical of Barry ... we have @Tom McAndrew verify if I am any other current active user on this site ... if I am not, you and all your current and future iterations of yourself (and we know there have been, and will be, many of those) and @Bwifan will be permanently banned from the site? If I’m shown to be anyone else on this site, Tom bans me and any potential future iterations.

Deal?

It's quite telling that a known and proven doxxer ... and then a perpetual attempted doxxer who has repeatedly failed ... is in Barry's corner. It's time for you to go, for good.

I have no other active/current aliases on this site besides Moogy. I haven't since I established this name. None of the people you've accused me of being are me. I have no idea if they are each other, nor do I care, but they aren't me.

Take the bet. Don't come up with excuses ... don’t be a coward … take the bet.
Delusion might be your sole remaining friend in your pathetic life. 😎
 

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By the way, I have a name, wasn’t on BWI during the scandal, have plenty of people on these boards who can vouch for that because we’ve tailgated and met in person.

Go ahead and ask any site writer here. I have a paid account if you don’t believe me…
I trust you on four things only

1. You have a name

2. You’ve tailgated 🙄

3. You have a “paid membership”. It might be this website or some creepy porn site.

4. You know people from this board (site writers 🤣)
 

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On a less contentious note, I just received the alumni ballot in my email. I wasn’t going to vote, but figured I’d come and ask the AKB if it’s worth my time as an out of state alumni and, if so, who’s the best of the bunch (leaving out Barry for the moment)?
 
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Ballots are out. I just voted. I will bet, however, that they will not even count writing votes for Barry, because he is "not qualified". So be it.
 

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On a less contentious note, I just received the alumni ballot in my email. I wasn’t going to vote, but figured I’d come and ask the AKB if it’s worth my time as an out of state alumni and, if so, who’s the best of the bunch (leaving out Barry for the moment)?

Got mine too. Ugh.

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Some people actually believe that if trustees are cordial towards each other in public settings, then they must be good representatives of Penn State and must be acting in the best interests Penn State.

Apparently, the world has never seen nice people who are incompetent.
What I've never seen before is someone, who is allegedly a licensed financial professional, make the argument that an entity that CAN NOT have goodwill on its balance sheet, has goodwill on its balance sheet. This is something anyone who has taken even an intro accounting course would know, let alone a financial services professional. I've also never seen someone then try to argue that the entity he's representing should forego a $50m payday because of this goodwill, which doesn't, and can not exist. I've also never seen someone try to argue that, even though this money will help pay a large debt that is coming due, we should forego it, in favor of some mythical amount that would be raised, instead ... despite presenting absolutely NO evidence to support the assertion that any kind of alternative funds could be raised (let alone some good faith estimate of how much could be raised) ... having had years to raise said funds, and doing absolutely NOTHING toward this end.

And this screams competence to you?
 

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On a less contentious note, I just received the alumni ballot in my email. I wasn’t going to vote, but figured I’d come and ask the AKB if it’s worth my time as an out of state alumni and, if so, who’s the best of the bunch (leaving out Barry for the moment)?
Why not research the candidates and form your own opinions? Blindly voting for whom others tell you too is how PS4RS took over the alumni trustee elections and packed the seats with whomever they wanted, their sheep just followed along without questions. Write in Barry if you want to waste your vote, as no matter how many votes he gets he's not going to be permitted to be re-elected by the board.
 

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Why not research the candidates and form your own opinions? Blindly voting for whom others tell you too is how PS4RS took over the alumni trustee elections and packed the seats with whomever they wanted, their sheep just followed along without questions. Write in Barry if you want to waste your vote, as no matter how many votes he gets he's not going to be permitted to be re-elected by the board.
The only "hope" I see is action from the state legislature. Just ponder that for a moment- the Pennsylvania State Legislature- possibly the only group of people you could find in the state who might be worse than our BOT.

Royally screwed are we.