the amount of poverty in Louisiana and the state spends 15M on a buyout just baffles me. i know much of that comes from boosters, but just shows where priorities are
Les Miles Might Be Fired Today
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First, there is zero chance Miles comes to UK- Stoops isn't going anywhere. Second, he would be a failure here for a multitude of reasons. Third, even if there was an opening here, he would laugh at the possibility of coming here.
I would love that too but you wouldn't get it hiring Miles.
When that speculation began, his team had a 1-3 record. It has not been a good year, but I think people shold take a step back from the claim that he will be available. It is still just conjecture.
You are mistaken on so many things here. Their tradition of late is near the same, historically it isn't anywhere near close. FSU is in a good recruiting area, but shares that with 2 other P5 teams, multiple non P5 teams and is recruited hard by every team in the country. LSU is in a state that produces tons of talent, usually multiple 5* kids and almost all grow up wanting to be Tigers, plus east Texas. Fanbases aren't close,FSU does their chop, but no one gets louder and routier than those crazy LSU fans, UK has been there, you should know that. As far as facilities, LSU by a mile, they were on the verge of shutting some of the departments down at LSU but managed to find 200m to upgrade the athletic facilities including a concrete river ride.
Just noticed that LSU has the No. 1 ranked recruiting class (Rivals). Incredible...
Coaching prowess can mean all those things you listed as positives for Miles...recruiting, motivator, risk taker...no one coach is going to be perfect across the board...
I'd say that is exactly what Pete Carroll was at USC and is now at Seattle...great at collecting talent, communicating, and motivating...
We have a pretty good basketball coach with "prowess"...who is an excellent recruiter, master motivator, great at communicating, and even risk taker with some of the kids he's recruited...I wouldn't say he could "x's and o's" circles around other coaches on his level...
Some guys have "prowess" in the x's o's and finer details...some guys have prowess in management...Saban has his notorious "process"...he can find the talent and really develop it...his x's and o's didn't really work out in the pros when all the other teams had comparable talent...
I wouldn't worry about his age or his recruiting out of the state of Louisiana...like I said...we're not hunting 5 star athletes and titles...we're looking for 7 wins and maybe .500 in conference...
and I'm not even saying kick CMS to the curb...I think Les would be able to use his strengths as position coach or coordinator and it would make a difference...
It's all pie in the sky though...he'll have his pick of jobs on the field or in the booth...him and John Gruden would be a show on it's own...
but this idea out there that Miles isn't a good coach or is washed up is absurd...he's got 2 SEC crowns and a National title...they don't just hand those out...he's had 1 losing season as a HC and that was his first year at Oklahoma St...I'll take that resume at Kentucky, whether it be HC or an assistant, any day of the week...
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It was mentioned during the Ole Miss game that LSU has more guys in the NFL, about 40, than any other school. And a large number of those guys came out early. Just a tremendous talent turnover. The AD is an ex- Dukie, don't know how much he knows about hiring football coaches.
I was a guest of the U.S. Army in the great state of Louisiana years ago. Saturdays in the fall were marked by quarter horse races in the A.M. and LSU football at night. They love their football....and expect to win.
Funny you mentioned this, as I was watching the Bengals v. Cardinals game last night, I noticed a ton of LSU guys on both teams, way more NFL players than a whole lot of top programs.
You make a good case - and were civil too! - but, as much as I like Miles, I just think it would be a bad fit.
About ten points behind OSU from above, but only18 commits so far so could climb. ELEVEN of the 18 are from Louisiana, with four from Texas, one each from Az, Fl, and Bama. And while they get most of the stars from in state,they don't get them all.
The impressive thing to me is that the eleven from La AVERAGE a nice round 5.8, a four star for 11 of them. When you consider that UK had zero in 2010 (two this year I believe, both UK commits) that is very impressive.
Let Stoops at least build up our talent level before you try to run him off.
Would Miles recruit as well at UK as he does at LSU, the answer is not just no, but hell no. In fact I don't think he would recruit nearly as well as Stoops has so far, especially coming off the records we are coming off.
Word out of LSU is:
-The school has not sat down to talk to Miles about the entire situation......that's just poor practice
-Word from Sat radio this morning, "Once we bring in the new coach, everyone will understand completely why we let Miles go." This suggests that they already have a guy and that it's a big time name. The only one that comes to mind is Chip Kelly. (and, of course, Gruden......cause no coaching talk would be complete without mentioning Chucky.....lol)
During Kelly's time at Oregon he played 2 SEC schools. He killed a poor UT team. And he lost to Auburn in the NC by just a little. Clearly not enough to establish just how well his system would do in the SEC. He averaged ~11.5 wins/yr in the Pac12. Miles is averaging ~10.5 in the SEC. To me that is a wash.
Another question:
-Could Miles go to Georgia and have an easier road to the NC?
-The school has not sat down to talk to Miles about the entire situation......that's just poor practice
-Word from Sat radio this morning, "Once we bring in the new coach, everyone will understand completely why we let Miles go." This suggests that they already have a guy and that it's a big time name. The only one that comes to mind is Chip Kelly. (and, of course, Gruden......cause no coaching talk would be complete without mentioning Chucky.....lol)
During Kelly's time at Oregon he played 2 SEC schools. He killed a poor UT team. And he lost to Auburn in the NC by just a little. Clearly not enough to establish just how well his system would do in the SEC. He averaged ~11.5 wins/yr in the Pac12. Miles is averaging ~10.5 in the SEC. To me that is a wash.
Another question:
-Could Miles go to Georgia and have an easier road to the NC?
perfect UK football luck...next season, instead of maybe having a slight chance at beating a rebuilding LSU team with a new coach...we draw Alabama...
This story is already having a negative impact on recruiting.
http://espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/...commitment-quarterback-recruit-feleipe-franks
http://espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/...commitment-quarterback-recruit-feleipe-franks
This QB is a big time prospect, looks as if he's headed to UF. All the LSU commits however should wait before they jump ship. While the potential is there for the AD to screw this up they also may get a top guy. Still, they're looking to replace a HC who's averaging 10+ wins a year since he's been there.
Miles is a good coach, for LSU. He would be a good coach, for Michigan. He would not be a good coach for UK. People look silly on here and on Twitter saying they would fire Stoops and hire Miles. Won't happen, and would be a bad move if it did.
Miles might just turn to broadcasting. He is pretty amusing, even if he usually doesn't intend to be. It might sell.
Don't be surprised if you see a Miles/Missouri deal on the table soon. I'll have to check back with my sources on this one, then I'll let you guys be the first to know before it hits the news
The way the contract is written, LSU would have 8 years to fulfill their contractual obligations to Miles if he is terminated without cause.
Somewhere in Memphis Jimmy Sexton is thinking it really can't get any better than this.
Looks to me like losing had the negative impact. The kid made trips to UF well before this story hit the news.
Another interesting idea is Sean Payton. There are rumors that he may be kicked out of New Orleans. He hasn't coached in college since the 90's, but it would be fun to talk about.
Do you really think the state is footing this bill?
I would think LSU has an athletic entity separate from state funds like ours that pays the big expenses like coaches salaries and such.
I don't see much of anything in his record that could be called incompetent.
Averages 10 wins per season, .750 winning percentage, National Championship, currently has the # 1 recruiting class.
Sounds to me like someone has more money than common sense saying 15K would not be a problem in a buy-out of his contract.