A local area radio show randomly? That in itself should tell you there's something fishy in the water. How popular and well known is H2H in the Memphis radio market to begin with? I'd venture to say not many have even heard of it. Think about that for a minute. Say no to ESPN among many others yet voluntarily, out of the blue, with no warning, call a small local market talk show that just happens to focus pretty much solely on State and Ole Miss? It doesn't take Steve McGarrett or Columbo to figure some of this out. No offense intended to H2H but doesn't it seem odd to call in to there considering the big fish who were salivating over the story? I mean, he wanted to clear his name, right? Well, why clear it before such a small audience when the option has been on the table for weeks to speak to any major outlet out there? Put some pieces together, folks.
Let's see. So you turn down multiple interviews with ESPN, etc, YET call into...
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Dude has been playing this for weeks. Coming out a few weeks ago and saying I am going to hold a press conference was nothing more than an attempt to earn some cash from whoever wanted him to keep quiet, talk, or spin a tale. Whoever paid the most.
I`m sure the "big fish" wanted to ask some tough questions. He caught the H2H guys flat footed and not prepared to ask questions about him and his little cash business. I would love for Matt to get a do-over with some time to prepare. Dickhead Cross was just ecstatic to help the guy bust a few caps in our direction.
So what, exactly, would you like Dickhead Cross to have asked? Matt should get a do over, but screw Richard, right?
It would kill you to know that I really don't have an agenda for the downfall of Mississippi State.
As a radio host, my only real interest is good radio.
Sorry if you didn't like the questions, but that was good live radio today.
It would kill you to know that I really don't have an agenda for the downfall of Mississippi State.
As a radio host, my only real interest is good radio.
Sorry if you didn't like the questions, but that was good live radio today.
How about "Why didn't you stop this young man from accepting this money?"Or "Why did you come to us to 'clear your name' and not ESPN who has tried to get an interview with you?" There's a couple of questions right there I would have liked to see him ask. Oh yeah, here's another one, "Now was it $100 or $200?" "Could you be more specific?" "surely you asked the kid 'what did the booster give you?' right?"
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P.S. How about asking him about the false accusations he made against a certain HS football coach and certain HS in Tennessee? This guy has no credibility and I just don't see how the NCAA can take this guy's word for anything. If they do, does anybody still believe the NCAA has to "have proof"?
Do you seriously think we would fire Mirando with no proof?
Have you even thought this out?
Why would our president, AD and head coach fire an assistant coach over hearsay from some 7 vs 7 coach.
You may think that our people in charge are that stupid, I don't.
The truth does hurt sometime. I wouldn`t trust Richard Cross as far as I could throw him when it comes to MSU. If I`m wrong I`m wrong but my instincts tell me otherwise.
Good to see you Dick....
You should have asked about the Auburn player Robinson. Also get into the UT allegations...
And yes, you do have an agenda for Mississippi State to fail...
You should have asked about the Auburn player Robinson. Also get into the UT allegations...
And yes, you do have an agenda for Mississippi State to fail...
1. Wasn't interested in the morals of De'Vinner...was interested, in a compressed timeframe with no preparation, getting as much as info out of him as possible. The primary focus of Head to Head is to cover stories that affect Mississippi State and Ole Miss.
2. Candidly, I don't care why he turned ESPN down. I'm glad he chose Head to Head. I'm glad ESPN contacted us to request an MP3 of the interview late last night. I'm glad a Google search of "Head to Head" turns up 40 entries (ESPN, Yahoo, CL, CA, CBS Sports, NBC Sports, etc.) with our name in bold. Maybe he just didn't like Joe Schad. Maybe someone recommended Head to Head to him because they think we do a good job. I really have no idea.
3. Does it matter if it was $100 or $200? De'Vinner gave an eyewitness account of money exchanging hands between a booster and prospective student athlete. You may disagree on this, and that's fine.
4. As to your next post about Auburn...there are people - Kyle Veazey in particular - who are more concerned about the Auburn side of the story because it involves grade tampering in the Memphis City Schools. He's an Enterprise sport reporter focused, primarily, on Memphis. See above...our primary focus on Head to Head is on Mississippi Sate and Ole Miss. Also, De'Vinner made it clear early in the interview that he has had no contact with Jovon Robinson since National Signing Day, about 7 months ago.
5. With regard to HS coaches and and high schools in Tennessee, I really don't know what you're talking about. I have not followed this story as closely as some. Head to Head is not propping up Byron De'Vinner as either a moralist or as someone who got the shaft, and we are certainly neither vouching for nor advocating against his character. The fact is, he called our show - unannounced and uninvited - and provided 12 minutes of live, spontaneous, relevant sports talk.
Maybe next time we can get your number on speed dial if we have a late breaking interview. We could keep you on retainer as a consultant on how to ask the really hard questions, since clearly we're not very good at it.
Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for listening.
RC
just saw this..good grief....known RC for a while....good guy. Good radio. Does a great job of growing a radio show playing the opposite to an MSU guy....which is the point i believe. RC and Wyatt do a great job for the fans and the sponsors. it would be boring to have it all with maroon tint.......theyd really be bent out of shape to see your golf attire.....JM
I've never listened to H2H, and didn't listen to the audio of this call, but were the following questions asked:
What other players, if any, did you witness taking cash?
What other school's boosters, if any, did you witness providing a recruit with cash or other improper benefits?
Those seem to be the obvious questions to me, and I'm curious about the answer (although not curious enough to listen to the whole call/interview).
What other players, if any, did you witness taking cash?
What other school's boosters, if any, did you witness providing a recruit with cash or other improper benefits?
Those seem to be the obvious questions to me, and I'm curious about the answer (although not curious enough to listen to the whole call/interview).
H2H Handled Fairly Well
Being a Homer Show in any direction just doesn't make good radio. **I do think Richard needs a "wardrobe by" segment, because you know he looks good on radio... HA **End Sarcasm
I listen to them often and I think RC does a better job of being objective, many times more than MW does. I love MW - went to state with the guy, but RC I thought was fairly objective and handled the whole thing pretty well. The audio of their callers like Barret yesterday was crap, it wouldn't hurt to get some of these guys on a land line more often, but I know it's live radio and you do what you can get.
Being a Homer Show in any direction just doesn't make good radio. **I do think Richard needs a "wardrobe by" segment, because you know he looks good on radio... HA **End Sarcasm
Richard, you are FULL OF ****. You want to throw out that horse **** about "it's a show geared towards MSU and OM", but y'all talk daily about the SEC as a whole. Don't crawfish out of this **** with some lame *** excuse. Just like you would be crying a 17ing river today if Matt had done the same thing if the roles were reversed. You're pissed bc you know it's true. You're a selfish, pompous, no good, bigot, douchebag, and you have no idea how to be level headed and not homer your *** up with Ole Miss at every topic. 17 you.
And I don't like you either.
ETA: I see that you called up some buddies to create accounts on here and defend you. Nice move.
And I don't like you either.
ETA: I see that you called up some buddies to create accounts on here and defend you. Nice move.
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Are you kidding me? If a guy thinks it's okay for a kid to take money under the table, then obviously he's on the level and couldn't be lying about anything. Good grief! The morals of DeVinner have EVERYTHING to do with this.
[SUB]Other than the fact that he is bear fan, I'm having a hard time understanding why this is all The fault of Dickhead Cross.
Did we not have a former MSU QB and sixpackspeak poster next to Dickhead Cross in the booth?
Why didn't 2plo4sho (Wyatt) defend us the way we seem to expect Dickhead to defend us?
Isn't it kind of silly to blame this one one guy, when one of our own is a host also? [/SUB]
Did we not have a former MSU QB and sixpackspeak poster next to Dickhead Cross in the booth?
Why didn't 2plo4sho (Wyatt) defend us the way we seem to expect Dickhead to defend us?
Isn't it kind of silly to blame this one one guy, when one of our own is a host also? [/SUB]
So if I call you up and tell you I personally delivered CJ Johnson his new truck and wanted to put it out there, you wouldn't question my morals?
I guess everything on the internet and radio IS true.
It doesn`t matter what you were interested in.....you got used by a lying dirtbag to put out a huge line of ********. Great job DH.
First of all, let me say up front that I have nothing against Cross or H@H. I have listened to the program before while traveling and found it entertaining. Having said that, you are the one who asked about what questions yo thought you ought to have asked. I was just obliging. Now lets look at some of these answers
Wasn't interested in the morals of De'Vinner...was interested, in a compressed timeframe with no preparation, getting as much as info out of him as possible. The primary focus of Head to Head is to cover stories that affect Mississippi State and Ole Miss.
I realize the guy caught you unawares, but how can you not say you weren't interested in his morales. Here you have a guy that is making accusations against MSU, that, if true, could land the university on probation and you're not interested in his moral character? Especially when said character may have a bearing on this guy's credibility? Should we take your sports show seriously?
Candidly, I don't care why he turned ESPN down. I'm glad he chose Head to Head. I'm glad ESPN contacted us to request an MP3 of the interview late last night. I'm glad a Google search of "Head to Head" turns up 40 entries (ESPN, Yahoo, CL, CA, CBS Sports, NBC Sports, etc.) with our name in bold. Maybe he just didn't like Joe Schad. Maybe someone recommended Head to Head to him because they think we do a good job. I really have no idea.
Apparently you don't care about anything except ratings and dragging MSU through the mud. I don't see how anyone can take you seriously anymore. Everything you so from now on will be taken with a grain of salt by me.
Does it matter if it was $100 or $200? De'Vinner gave an eyewitness account of money exchanging hands between a booster and prospective student athlete. You may disagree on this, and that's fine.
You would think if the guy actually saw something he would know how much it was. Again, do you know the meaning of the word "credibility"? Now if money did actually exchange hands, then no it doesn't matter, but that wasn't the point of the question.
As to your next post about Auburn...there are people - Kyle Veazey in particular - who are more concerned about the Auburn side of the story because it involves grade tampering in the Memphis City Schools. He's an Enterprise sport reporter focused, primarily, on Memphis. See above...our primary focus on Head to Head is on Mississippi Sate and Ole Miss. Also, De'Vinner made it clear early in the interview that he has had no contact with Jovon Robinson since National Signing Day, about 7 months ago.
Perhaps you have me confused with someone else, I never mentioned Aubarn.
With regard to HS coaches and and high schools in Tennessee, I really don't know what you're talking about. I have not followed this story as closely as some. Head to Head is not propping up Byron De'Vinner as either a moralist or as someone who got the shaft, and we are certainly neither vouching for nor advocating against his character. The fact is, he called our show - unannounced and uninvited - and provided 12 minutes of live, spontaneous, relevant sports talk.
I'm beginning to woner if you even want to be taken seriously as sports radio talk show. Don't you have producers there that can look something up for you? Try googling the mab's name, it won't take very long, especially with fast internet and all. In other words DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
Maybe next time we can get your number on speed dial if we have a late breaking interview. We could keep you on retainer as a consultant on how to ask the really hard questions, since clearly we're not very good at it.
No thanks, I already have a job, but if I was going to go to all that trouble I'd start my own sports radio talk show. I believe I could compete.
Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for listening.
RC
No problem, please consider the feedback constructive, and act on it
Wasn't interested in the morals of De'Vinner...was interested, in a compressed timeframe with no preparation, getting as much as info out of him as possible. The primary focus of Head to Head is to cover stories that affect Mississippi State and Ole Miss.
I realize the guy caught you unawares, but how can you not say you weren't interested in his morales. Here you have a guy that is making accusations against MSU, that, if true, could land the university on probation and you're not interested in his moral character? Especially when said character may have a bearing on this guy's credibility? Should we take your sports show seriously?
Candidly, I don't care why he turned ESPN down. I'm glad he chose Head to Head. I'm glad ESPN contacted us to request an MP3 of the interview late last night. I'm glad a Google search of "Head to Head" turns up 40 entries (ESPN, Yahoo, CL, CA, CBS Sports, NBC Sports, etc.) with our name in bold. Maybe he just didn't like Joe Schad. Maybe someone recommended Head to Head to him because they think we do a good job. I really have no idea.
Apparently you don't care about anything except ratings and dragging MSU through the mud. I don't see how anyone can take you seriously anymore. Everything you so from now on will be taken with a grain of salt by me.
Does it matter if it was $100 or $200? De'Vinner gave an eyewitness account of money exchanging hands between a booster and prospective student athlete. You may disagree on this, and that's fine.
You would think if the guy actually saw something he would know how much it was. Again, do you know the meaning of the word "credibility"? Now if money did actually exchange hands, then no it doesn't matter, but that wasn't the point of the question.
As to your next post about Auburn...there are people - Kyle Veazey in particular - who are more concerned about the Auburn side of the story because it involves grade tampering in the Memphis City Schools. He's an Enterprise sport reporter focused, primarily, on Memphis. See above...our primary focus on Head to Head is on Mississippi Sate and Ole Miss. Also, De'Vinner made it clear early in the interview that he has had no contact with Jovon Robinson since National Signing Day, about 7 months ago.
Perhaps you have me confused with someone else, I never mentioned Aubarn.
With regard to HS coaches and and high schools in Tennessee, I really don't know what you're talking about. I have not followed this story as closely as some. Head to Head is not propping up Byron De'Vinner as either a moralist or as someone who got the shaft, and we are certainly neither vouching for nor advocating against his character. The fact is, he called our show - unannounced and uninvited - and provided 12 minutes of live, spontaneous, relevant sports talk.
I'm beginning to woner if you even want to be taken seriously as sports radio talk show. Don't you have producers there that can look something up for you? Try googling the mab's name, it won't take very long, especially with fast internet and all. In other words DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
Maybe next time we can get your number on speed dial if we have a late breaking interview. We could keep you on retainer as a consultant on how to ask the really hard questions, since clearly we're not very good at it.
No thanks, I already have a job, but if I was going to go to all that trouble I'd start my own sports radio talk show. I believe I could compete.
Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for listening.
RC
No problem, please consider the feedback constructive, and act on it
Last I saw he resigned not fired. But let's just go ahead and say he was forced to resign (fired), if he actually did know about this and it were true, don't you think the NCAA knows it too? Wouldn't the immediately declare Redmond ineligible to play? Or even practice with the team?
I don't necessarily think you should read much into Mirando's firing. In corporate and governmental settings, people lose their jobs for PR reasons all the time...taking the fall for the greater good. Mirando was low man on the totem pole. If the NCAA wanted him gone as a way to reduce the penalty for the "irregularity", then it would be an easy deal to make, as I'm sure that we could prove him complicit in some way.
De'Vinner does seems less than credible. Forde could have just reported a fraction of what the guy had to say because he felt that's all he could prove if pressed to do so.
De'Vinner does seems less than credible. Forde could have just reported a fraction of what the guy had to say because he felt that's all he could prove if pressed to do so.
Don't think Cross' job is to be an investigative radio host. He's there to talk sports and got caught off-guard. I'm sure you would've seen more in-depth questions by Cross and Wyatt had they had time to prepare. I find it hilarious that everyone here ***** on Cross for the interview but doesn't have a damn thing to say about why Wyatt didn't defend all things MSU.
You almost made it without letting a little bit of ******* slip out. Maybe next time.
These are all logical questions that should have immediately come to anyone's mind. As for Matt, he admitted after the interview that there was some things that they should have questioned him on. Anyway, Matt didn't come on here and ask what questions did he think they should have asked. If he had, I would have told him the same thing.
Haha exactly. Not only that, but you wouldn't think a "professional" journalist would come on a message board to "clear his name". I thought only innocent 7on7 coaches did that. The more you know!