Lib media going crazy over Comey testimony on Thursday

WVPATX

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Praying that he testifies that Trump obstructed justice. Do you think that is what Comey says?

If so, there are two major problems for Comey? The first is that it is federal law that if this were to have occurred, he would have had to report it immediately. He did not.

Secondly, Comey in testimony to Congress said that no one tried to obstruct any of his investigations.

So what will he say? He hates Trump for firing him. He wants to get him back, no doubt. But how far can he go without jeopardizing himself?

Going to be very interesting, not to meting the fact it is a he said, she said kind of deal.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Praying that he testifies that Trump obstructed justice. Do you think that is what Comey says?

If so, there are two major problems for Comey? The first is that it is federal law that if this were to have occurred, he would have had to report it immediately. He did not.

Secondly, Comey in testimony to Congress said that no one tried to obstruct any of his investigations.

So what will he say? He hates Trump for firing him. He wants to get him back, no doubt. But how far can he go without jeopardizing himself?

Going to be very interesting, not to meting the fact it is a he said, she said kind of deal.
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The first is that it is federal law that if this were to have occurred, he would have had to report it immediately. He did not.

Wrong! You have taken the law completely out of context. That is not appropriate for a federal investigator or a federal prosecutor in an ongoing investigation.

It amazes me the figurative ejaculated seminal fluid from fake news that you swallow.
 

Airport

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Praying that he testifies that Trump obstructed justice. Do you think that is what Comey says?

If so, there are two major problems for Comey? The first is that it is federal law that if this were to have occurred, he would have had to report it immediately. He did not.

Secondly, Comey in testimony to Congress said that no one tried to obstruct any of his investigations.

So what will he say? He hates Trump for firing him. He wants to get him back, no doubt. But how far can he go without jeopardizing himself?

Going to be very interesting, not to meting the fact it is a he said, she said kind of deal.

There's no criminal investigation so there is no obstruction.
 

moe

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Wrong! You have taken the law completely out of context. That is not appropriate for a federal investigator or a federal prosecutor in an ongoing investigation.

It amazes me the figurative ejaculated seminal fluid from fake news that you swallow.
Patx is an expert on everything, ask him he'll tell ya.
 

Boomboom521

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I waiting for Muellers findings. One way or the other, Comey's testimony doesn't change much at all.
 

Airport

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As usual, you have made up alternative facts. Huge surprise

No, even your own, Alan Dershowitz, has said there's no law breaking here. As far as comey goes, there isn't a criminal investigation at this time.
 

Airport

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I waiting for Muellers findings. One way or the other, Comey's testimony doesn't change much at all.
If Mueller goes off in other directions that leads to who knows where, this might drag on for years.
 

WVUBRU

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I waiting for Muellers findings. One way or the other, Comey's testimony doesn't change much at all.
That is true and more people should follow the example. What Comeys testimony will do is put information into the public which can have all kind of effects on many things. It is a big deal regardless what is said.
 

moe

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I think snowflakes might be jumping off bridges late this week.
Nothing will be settled this week so don't get your hopes up but it should be entertaining. He'll be the first of many to tell what they know. It's a marathon not a sprint.
 

WVUBRU

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No, even your own, Alan Dershowitz, has said there's no law breaking here. As far as comey goes, there isn't a criminal investigation at this time.
You even spin other people's comments. This is why of many reasons you are a whacko
 

TarHeelEer

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That is true and more people should follow the example. What Comeys testimony will do is put information into the public which can have all kind of effects on many things. It is a big deal regardless what is said.

It'll be a big nothingburger. "Trump urged me to end Russia investigations, but there was no obstruction". Other than that, "I cannot say".
 

TarHeelEer

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Nothing will be settled this week so don't get your hopes up but it should be entertaining. He'll be the first of many to tell what they know. It's a marathon not a sprint.

Ya'll are the one's with your hopes up. This isn't going to be anything.
 

WVPATX

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Wrong! You have taken the law completely out of context. That is not appropriate for a federal investigator or a federal prosecutor in an ongoing investigation.

It amazes me the figurative ejaculated seminal fluid from fake news that you swallow.

This is not wrong. If he felt obstruction of justice were occurring he was required by law to report it to the DOJ.

Gregg Jarrett: Comey's revenge is a gun without powder

By Gregg JarrettPublished May 16, 2017
Fox News


WH rebuffs claims that Trump jeopardized national security

James Comey was lying in wait.

His gun was cocked, he took aim and fired. But his weapon was empty.

Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump. Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does –he wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers do that routinely.

Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.

Those who don’t know the first thing about the law immediately began hurling words like “obstruction of justice”, “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “impeachment“. Typically, these people don’t know what they don’t know.

Here is what we do know.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

Obstruction requires what’s called “specific intent” to interfere with a criminal case. If Comey concluded, however, that Trump’s language was vague, ambiguous or elliptical, then he has no duty under the law to report it because it does not rise to the level of specific intent. Thus, no crime.

There is no evidence Comey ever alerted officials at the Justice Department, as he is duty-bound to do. Surely if he had, that incriminating information would have made its way to the public either by an indictment or, more likely, an investigation that could hardly be kept confidential in the intervening months.

Comey’s memo is being treated as a “smoking gun” only because the media and Democrats, likely prompted by Comey himself, are now peddling it that way.

Comey will soon testify before Congress about this and other matters. His memo will likely be produced pursuant to a subpoena. The words and the context will matter.

But by writing a memo, Comey has put himself in a box. If he now accuses the President of obstruction, he places himself in legal jeopardy for failing to promptly and properly report it. If he says it was merely an uncomfortable conversation, he clears the president of wrongdoing and sullies his own image as a guy who attempted to smear the man who fired him.

Either way, James Comey comes out a loser. No matter. The media will hail him a hero.

After all, he gave them a good story that was better than the truth.


Gregg Jarrett is a Fox News Anchor and former defense attorney.
 

Keyser76

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Lol, snowflakes look like they are worrying on here, ya'll would trash Jesus if he said a bad word about your manchild. And the liberal media includes Fox news and the WSJ now? Who knew? Any sane person would take Comeys word over Trumps, our President only has credibility with folks whose heads are in the sand.
 

WVPATX

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Lol, snowflakes look like they are worrying on here, ya'll would trash Jesus if he said a bad word about your manchild. And the liberal media includes Fox news and the WSJ now? Who knew? Any sane person would take Comeys word over Trumps, our President only has credibility with folks whose heads are in the sand.

Comey just caught lying in front of Congress before he was fired. The FBI had to immediately correct his testimony. Yeah, he is credible. Cited why Hillary could not be prosecuted yet our soldiers sit in jail for far less.
 

moe

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This is not wrong. If he felt obstruction of justice were occurring he was required by law to report it to the DOJ.

Gregg Jarrett: Comey's revenge is a gun without powder

By Gregg JarrettPublished May 16, 2017
Fox News


WH rebuffs claims that Trump jeopardized national security

James Comey was lying in wait.

His gun was cocked, he took aim and fired. But his weapon was empty.

Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump. Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does –he wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers do that routinely.

Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.

Those who don’t know the first thing about the law immediately began hurling words like “obstruction of justice”, “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “impeachment“. Typically, these people don’t know what they don’t know.

Here is what we do know.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

Obstruction requires what’s called “specific intent” to interfere with a criminal case. If Comey concluded, however, that Trump’s language was vague, ambiguous or elliptical, then he has no duty under the law to report it because it does not rise to the level of specific intent. Thus, no crime.

There is no evidence Comey ever alerted officials at the Justice Department, as he is duty-bound to do. Surely if he had, that incriminating information would have made its way to the public either by an indictment or, more likely, an investigation that could hardly be kept confidential in the intervening months.

Comey’s memo is being treated as a “smoking gun” only because the media and Democrats, likely prompted by Comey himself, are now peddling it that way.

Comey will soon testify before Congress about this and other matters. His memo will likely be produced pursuant to a subpoena. The words and the context will matter.

But by writing a memo, Comey has put himself in a box. If he now accuses the President of obstruction, he places himself in legal jeopardy for failing to promptly and properly report it. If he says it was merely an uncomfortable conversation, he clears the president of wrongdoing and sullies his own image as a guy who attempted to smear the man who fired him.

Either way, James Comey comes out a loser. No matter. The media will hail him a hero.

After all, he gave them a good story that was better than the truth.


Gregg Jarrett is a Fox News Anchor and former defense attorney.
In my non-legal opinion, any obstruction of justice charges would be put forth by Mueller and it would be a due to a combination of things to include the firing of Comey (and others). To say at this point in time that obstruction of justice charges won't or can't be made is premature seeing how much more investigation is to be done and testimony to be heard.
 

WVPATX

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In my non-legal opinion, any obstruction of justice charges would be put forth by Mueller and it would be a due to a combination of things to include the firing of Comey (and others). To say at this point in time that obstruction of justice charges won't or can't be made is premature seeing how much more investigation is to be done and testimony to be heard.

If Comey thought there was an attempt to obstruct justice it is required by law that he report it to the DOJ. If not, he is in legal jeopardy.
 

moe

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If Comey thought there was an attempt to obstruct justice it is required by law that he report it to the DOJ. If not, he is in legal jeopardy.
Just keep repeating that over and over and over and over. It will make you feel better.
 

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You even spin other people's comments. This is why of many reasons you are a whacko

Dershowitz said that collusion is not a crime, even if there is. He's not sure that there is collusion and it's not a crime. It's not good,but not a crime. And, you are a whacko because I've personally heard Dershowitz twice say that very same thing.
 

Airport

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As long as it's not politically motivated, I'm fine with him taking whatever time he needs.

It should go into the Clintons who are as crooked as anybody who have ever run for office. Podesta was one who should be looked into.
 

WVPATX

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Dershowitz said that collusion is not a crime, even if there is. He's not sure that there is collusion and it's not a crime. It's not good,but not a crime. And, you are a whacko because I've personally heard Dershowitz twice say that very same thing.

Ask the libs to show you the statute that collusion is a crime. I also heard Dershowitz make the same argument. He knows far more about the law than the libs on the board.
 

WVUBRU

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Dershowitz said that collusion is not a crime, even if there is. He's not sure that there is collusion and it's not a crime. It's not good,but not a crime. And, you are a whacko because I've personally heard Dershowitz twice say that very same thing.
Now you are changing the story on your original post. Yup, you are a typical trumpette. Say anything, get caught in a lie, change story, blame the person that caught your lie.
 

Boomboom521

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It should go into the Clintons who are as crooked as anybody who have ever run for office. Podesta was one who should be looked into.
If we assign a special prosecutor for every corrupt member of Congress or a Cabinet post, it would cost more than the DOJ budget. Trump is relevant in that 1) he is our President and 2) this is all a part of the investigation into a foreign state attempting to influence our election.
 

Airport

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Now you are changing the story on your original post. Yup, you are a typical trumpette. Say anything, get caught in a lie, change story, blame the person that caught your lie.
No, I'm not. You have an inability to read and comprehend. Congress does not carry on a criminal; investigation. Comey had not impaneled a grand jury, therefore, there is no criminal investigation until the grand jury has been impaneled.
 

Airport

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If we assign a special prosecutor for every corrupt member of Congress or a Cabinet post, it would cost more than the DOJ budget. Trump is relevant in that 1) he is our President and 2) this is all a part of the investigation into a foreign state attempting to influence our election.
There was one side that was taking money from the russians and it wasn't trump.