Lib media going crazy over Comey testimony on Thursday

Boomboom521

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There was one side that was taking money from the russians and it wasn't trump.
Than Mueller will make that clear, imo. And we can all bash the Dems in power and rebuild the party, I'm not happy with their leadership in Congress or the DNC anyway.
 

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If we assign a special prosecutor for every corrupt member of Congress or a Cabinet post, it would cost more than the DOJ budget. Trump is relevant in that 1) he is our President and 2) this is all a part of the investigation into a foreign state attempting to influence our election.

The one person who influenced her defeat was Hiliary. She could do no more than one event a day, trump would do 4-5, her weakness showed and her disdain for middle America showed completely.
 

Boomboom521

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The one person who influenced her defeat was Hiliary. She could do no more than one event a day, trump would do 4-5, her weakness showed and her disdain for middle America showed completely.
I think even diehard Hillary supporters recognize her political weaknesses at this point.
 

atlkvb

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Praying that he testifies that Trump obstructed justice. Do you think that is what Comey says?

If so, there are two major problems for Comey? The first is that it is federal law that if this were to have occurred, he would have had to report it immediately. He did not.

Secondly, Comey in testimony to Congress said that no one tried to obstruct any of his investigations.

So what will he say? He hates Trump for firing him. He wants to get him back, no doubt. But how far can he go without jeopardizing himself?

Going to be very interesting, not to meting the fact it is a he said, she said kind of deal.

He will plead the 5th.
 

atlkvb

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If we assign a special prosecutor for every corrupt member of Congress or a Cabinet post, it would cost more than the DOJ budget. Trump is relevant in that 1) he is our President and 2) this is all a part of the investigation into a foreign state attempting to influence our election.

This is essentially correct, and let's not forget there is this little matter of "unmasking" Americans who may have been been swept up in illegal surveillance by the previous justice Department?

To me THAT'S where the skeletons are buried.
 

WVPATX

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This is essentially correct, and let's not forget there is this little matter of "unmasking" Americans who may have been been swept up in illegal surveillance by the previous justice Department?

To me THAT'S where the skeletons are buried.

This is the only crime we are certain has been committed.
 

Boomboom521

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My worst case is that they replace Trump with Pence. Neither is Negan, so I still don't win.
On a side note: is there a death that is fitting enough for Negan? Short of Rick literally eating his neck while he's still alive, I think I'm going to be disappointed.
 

atlkvb

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I'd take that bet, no way he doesn't answer all questions. We'll know in a couple of days.

No he won't answer any direct questions.

He'll play the "Lois Lerner" "Sally Yates" "John Koskinen" "Hillary Clinton" defense that goes something like this:

"Um, I can't really answer that because I don't actually recall the exact circumstances around your question"

or

"I can't answer that because I'm not sure I understand your question"

or

"I'm not able to answer that because I'm not qualified to speak on something I have no direct knowledge of"

or

"I can't really answer that because I don't recall what was actually said to whom, when, over what"

or

"I'm not sure what the answer to that question is because I'm not privy to all of the classified information involved in the answer, or by answering I'd reveal classified information that I wasn't supposed to have access to but I did trying to understand what should have remained classified but isn't now because we can't figure out if it should be or not"

or

"I won't answer that because doing so might suggest I have something to do with what I'm refusing to answer or remember, and since I can't really remember what I'm supposed to answer I can't really answer because doing so might incriminate me for something I'm not sure I really did by answering a question that might indicate I did something I wasn't supposed to do".

It'll be some version of that sort of gobbledygook
 

WVPATX

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I'd take that bet, no way he doesn't answer all questions. We'll know in a couple of days.

I don't think he'll plead the 5th, but I bet he doesn't answer all their questions claiming an investigation is underway and he can't respond. He has done that over and over again.
 

atlkvb

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I don't think he'll plead the 5th, but I bet he doesn't answer all their questions claiming an investigation is underway and he can't respond. He has done that over and over again.

^THIS^
 

moe

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I don't think he'll plead the 5th, but I bet he doesn't answer all their questions claiming an investigation is underway and he can't respond. He has done that over and over again.
He won't decline to answer questions now that he's a private citizen, why would he? other than pleading the 5th and I'd be very surprised if he did that.
 

WVPATX

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He won't decline to answer questions now that he's a private citizen, why would he? other than pleading the 5th and I'd be very surprised if he did that.

He will decline because there is an ongoing investigation and Meuller will set the rules on what he can and can't comment on. IMO, of course.
 

moe

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Ask the libs to show you the statute that collusion is a crime. I also heard Dershowitz make the same argument. He knows far more about the law than the libs on the board.
Isn't election fraud one of your pet issues?
 

WVPATX

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Isn't election fraud one of your pet issues?

Not sure what election fraud has to do with this thread. BTW, we now have two major cases of voter fraud being prosecuted and the investigation only started very recently.
 

moe

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Not sure what election fraud has to do with this thread. BTW, we now have two major cases of voter fraud being prosecuted and the investigation only started very recently.
You were talking about collusion. I think that collusion with the Russians regarding helping Trump win the election would be the hardest to prove but if they were able to prove that then there's your election fraud.
 

WVPATX

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You were talking about collusion. I think that collusion with the Russians regarding helping Trump win the election would be the hardest to prove but if they were able to prove that then there's your election fraud.

Even Dem leaders say they can't find collusion. This dog won't hunt. Obstruction isn't going to hunt either. If Flynn did something wrong in Turkey or Russia in terms of accepting money without reporting as a foreign agent, that is a crime. But if he is punished, then Podesta must get punished as well. He actually received far more money than Flynn.
 

atlkvb

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He won't decline to answer questions now that he's a private citizen, why would he? other than pleading the 5th and I'd be very surprised if he did that.

Not me.

If he's been hiding illegal activity all along trying to help the Dems and the Left discredit Trump, he's in it ankle deep too. He'll either play dumb, or refuse to answer questions for fear of jeopardizing "ongoing investigations"

He's a bit of a weasel.

He's the one who came up with the "intent" statute in the Law as a way to excuse himself from recommending Hillary be prosecuted for willful violation of the espionage act which has no such provision.

He's a bean pole deep State dyed in the wool Trump resistor.
 

bornaneer

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Here is how it will go.
  1. The key question from the Dem will be: "Did you believe President Trump wanted you to stop the investigation?" Comey answer: "Yes"
  2. Key question from the Repub; " Did President Trump ask or order you to stop the investigation?" Comey answer: "No"
  3. Guess what the Media headlines will be.
 

WVPATX

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Here is how it will go.
  1. The key question from the Dem will be: "Did you believe President Trump wanted you to stop the investigation?" Comey answer: "Yes"
  2. Key question from the Repub; " Did President Trump ask or order you to stop the investigation?" Comey answer: "No"
  3. Guess what the Media headlines will be.

If he answers yes to 1, he may have committed a crime. It is a criminal offense to not report an attempt at obstruction of justice to the DOJ.

However, if he says that Trump wanted him consider giving Flynn a break but not obstruct, that may be his way out (but then no crime was committed).
 

atlkvb

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if he says that Trump wanted him consider giving Flynn a break but not obstruct, that may be his way out (but then no crime was committed).

He's a weasel...this will be his out.

former FBI director Comey
 

WVPATX

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You really are clueless. Poor thing.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

You are easily the least intelligent poster on this board, and that is saying something.
 
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Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

You are easily the least intelligent poster on this board, and that is saying something.

This is the actual text of 18 USC 4.

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'll let the intelligent posters on this board explain to you that Comey never concealed a felony and the arguability of him not coming forward "as soon as possible" to make it known to someone in authority.

Are you saying you know Comey never told anyone?

Damn, you're good. Almost as good as you think you are.

Now, go ahead and tell me how I'm the least intelligent poster.

And go ahead and explain law to me....and science even though you're not a scientist.

[roll]
 

bornaneer

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This is the actual text of 18 USC 4.

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'll let the intelligent posters on this board explain to you that Comey never concealed a felony and the arguability of him not coming forward "as soon as possible" to make it known to someone in authority.

Are you saying you know Comey never told anyone?

Damn, you're good. Almost as good as you think you are.

Now, go ahead and tell me how I'm the least intelligent poster.

And go ahead and explain law to me....and science even though you're not a scientist.

[roll]
I'm not up on this point of contention as much as you apparently are. Did Comey ever tell a judge or other authority what had happened? Look to me like the key word is "cognizable".
 
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I'm not up on this point of contention as much as you apparently are. Did Comey ever tell a judge or other authority what had happened? Look to me like the key word is "cognizable".

Exactly. Who knows? We do know he made memos documenting their discussions. And those memos are admissible.
 

WVPATX

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This is the actual text of 18 USC 4.

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'll let the intelligent posters on this board explain to you that Comey never concealed a felony and the arguability of him not coming forward "as soon as possible" to make it known to someone in authority.

Are you saying you know Comey never told anyone?

Damn, you're good. Almost as good as you think you are.

Now, go ahead and tell me how I'm the least intelligent poster.

And go ahead and explain law to me....and science even though you're not a scientist.

[roll]

I said it was a crime. It is a crime. If Comey did not tell anyone, particularly his boss at DOJ, he committed a crime. Obstruction of justice is a very serious matter. He must immediately tell someone in authority.

You posted this:

"Wrong! You have taken the law completely out of context. That is not appropriate for a federal investigator or a federal prosecutor in an ongoing investigation."

This is an incorrect statement. It is the law of the land that Comey immediately inform a judge, the DOJ, someone in authority. The law says nothing about the ability to keep silent if there is an investigation going on.
 

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lmfao, why debate em anymore? Who cares anymore how long the Trump defenders wanna stay on his sinking ship carrying water for that clown?
 

WVPATX

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I'm not up on this point of contention as much as you apparently are. Did Comey ever tell a judge or other authority what had happened? Look to me like the key word is "cognizable".

He must disclose immediately. He claims the ongoing investigation means Comey does not have to disclose. That is wrong. The memos he wrote do not constitute disclosure if he did not provide them to the proper authority and disclose the attempted obstruction. Did he? Given all of the leaks, I would say no he did not. But there is always the possibility that he did, but I think it remote.

The poster's logic is very, very difficult to follow if not impossible, but I think the poster believes that because Comey wrote a note on the meeting where this "obstruction" occurred, and because Comey is someone in authority, that note complied with the law. The notes or memo do not comply with the law. Comey must immediately inform someone in authority, probably someone at DOJ. If he doesn't, he committed a crime.
 
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I said it was a crime. It is a crime. If Comey did not tell anyone, particularly his boss at DOJ, he committed a crime. Obstruction of justice is a very serious matter. He must immediately tell someone in authority.

You posted this:

"Wrong! You have taken the law completely out of context. That is not appropriate for a federal investigator or a federal prosecutor in an ongoing investigation."

This is an incorrect statement. It is the law of the land that Comey immediately inform a judge, the DOJ, someone in authority. The law says nothing about the ability to keep silent if there is an investigation going on.


Hahahahahaha ha.

He was someone in authority at the time. Thanks for proving my point.
 

WVPATX

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Hahahahahaha ha.

He was someone in authority at the time. Thanks for proving my point.

What? He has to inform someone in authority. He can't keep this information to himself and the memo's if not given to someone in authority with the acknowledgement that attempted obstruction occurred, mean nothing.

What part of this do you not understand:

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.