I don’t hate America (also not a dem), but going about doing the things we are doing and the ways we are doing them threatens the notion of America. The ends cannot justify the means or else we are no better than Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
Do you sip your hot tea, pinky out?I used to be jealous of people with below average intelligence like yourself, as I believed it provided a much easier path to contentment and faith. But I’ve come to appreciate that the world must be so confusing and overwhelming to process for a simple-minded man, which is why you react out of emotion, and even fear, instead of engaging in thoughtful discussion and debate.
Bless your heart.
James Monroe and Teddy Roosevelt enter the chat. Not going to elaborate. Pax Americana. Carry on!I don’t hate America (also not a dem), but going about doing the things we are doing and the ways we are doing them threatens the notion of America. The ends cannot justify the means or else we are no better than Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
Take Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Their government lied to them and said it was to root out Nazi Fascists. Now take this situation, our government lied to us and to congress and said a) it was about drugs; and b) there would be no attacks on land without congressional approval; yet here we are: there are no Nazis in Ukraine and the US is firing on another country then abducting their despot leader while talking about oil.
The world may be a better place without him in charge (time will tell), but there is a way to go about these things and uphold the true notion of America while also not being seen as imperialists.
I understand your references but they present an interesting dichotomy to the MAGA concept - those instances make the US the world police (at least the Western hemisphere). Interesting to put America first while having to spend billions policing other countries.James Monroe and Teddy Roosevelt enter the chat. Not going to elaborate. Pax Americana. Carry on!
You’re trying too hard.Do you sip your hot tea, pinky out?
I understand your perspective and I have some, not all, of your concerns. But, as I posted in another thread, there's more to this than simply oil IMO. Russia, China, Hezbolla and likely others were being welcomed into Venezuela. From a US strategic or national security perspective that's too close for our comfort. Now you can disagree that this makes a difference in this day and age, but our leaders, for as far back as JFK, have had this belief and/or concern.I understand your references but they present an interesting dichotomy to the MAGA concept - those instances make the US the world police (at least the Western hemisphere). Interesting to put America first while having to spend billions policing other countries.
I don’t necessarily disagree. But what is partially so annoying is the lying. And I get that national security and spec ops can’t be put on blast, but there is a process. You know what you haven’t heard? Fentanyl. So much so that Rubio actually had to say “cocaine is bad too”. But you’ll have folks (looking at you @TigerGrowls) who will glom onto what trump says and not only treat it like gospel, but spread the fing word with righteous indignation via spam posting and rage baiting. 50,000 American lives. Complete with videos of fentanyl fiends doubled over backwards. And while those videos are tragic, it literally had zero to do with attacking Venezuela for its oil.I understand your perspective and I have some, not all, of your concerns. But, as I posted in another thread, there's more to this than simply oil IMO. Russia, China, Hezbolla and likely others were being welcomed into Venezuela. From a US strategic or national security perspective that's too close for our comfort. Now you can disagree that this makes a difference in this day and age, but our leaders, for as far back as JFK, have had this belief and/or concern.
Now going into Venezuela and snatching their leader is another question.
But this entire situation has a ways to go before resolution.
Says the one posting booksYou’re trying too hard.
Bless your heart.
Kamala 2.h0
Wrong dummy, I shed no tears for Maduro. None
Your peeps did bro. Guilt by association.Wrong dummy, I shed no tears for Maduro. None
Your peeps abandoned their principlesYour peeps did bro. Guilt by association.
Your peeps abandoned their principles
This here is the real reason I don't respect the Maga's on this board. You literally made arguments for non interventionism running up to Trump's election.
I even stated it was a good thing Trump got us out of the middle east.
Now look at all of you, blood thirsty war mongers, because Trump did it.
Just wait until you hear about the daycares in Greenland that Democrat NGO's are channeling money to fraudulently. The only way to root it out is to take it over. America First!Hey guys are we going to remove the leader of Israel since they use our tax dollars to give themselves free healthcare?
Bunch of leftists commies if you ask me.
Are you sure you’d like to discuss democrats and daycares right now ?Just wait until you hear about the daycares in Greenland that Democrat NGO's are channeling money to fraudulently. The only way to root it out is to take it over. America First!
I mean, that was the jokeAre you sure you’d like to discuss democrats and daycares right now ?
The joke was trying to make light of itI mean, that was the joke
Kind of a two layered joke cuz the whole thing has already been investigated so your faux outrage about 'Somali daycare fraud' from years ago is actually the real jokeThe joke was trying to make light of it
Sounded like you was talking about dpic since its all emotion from that beta incel...I used to be jealous of people with below average intelligence like yourself, as I believed it provided a much easier path to contentment and faith. But I’ve come to appreciate that the world must be so confusing and overwhelming to process for a simple-minded man, which is why you react out of emotion, and even fear, instead of engaging in thoughtful discussion and debate.
Bless your heart.
This is simple not true at all. Go read a book about the history of Ukraine and Russia. Look at what happen in WW2. You will understand something and realize how we are being lied to about Nazi's and Ukraine. Also the AZOV's are nazi's...I don’t hate America (also not a dem), but going about doing the things we are doing and the ways we are doing them threatens the notion of America. The ends cannot justify the means or else we are no better than Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
Take Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Their government lied to them and said it was to root out Nazi Fascists. Now take this situation, our government lied to us and to congress and said a) it was about drugs; and b) there would be no attacks on land without congressional approval; yet here we are: there are no Nazis in Ukraine and the US is firing on another country then abducting their despot leader while talking about oil.
The world may be a better place without him in charge (time will tell), but there is a way to go about these things and uphold the true notion of America while also not being seen as imperialists.
Yeah you did and you huffed paint crying because Orangeman....Wrong dummy, I shed no tears for Maduro. None
This here is the real reason I don't respect the Maga's on this board. You literally made arguments for non interventionism running up to Trump's election.
I even stated it was a good thing Trump got us out of the middle east.
Now look at all of you, blood thirsty war mongers, because Trump did it.
And what about all the misinformation and propaganda you guys have fallen for over the years? Even now after info has been declassified and the facts put out people on the left still spout the lies and defend it...The hypocrisy and complete disregard for consistency of argument is perhaps my BIGGEST issue with MAGA, right below their tolerance and acceptance of misinformation/propaganda as the biggest issue.
You're going to have to actually support statements like that with facts, rather than just vomit out talking points and expect people to accept them.The difference is this one saves American lives while the others dont have anything to do with us...