Libs EXTREMELY unhappy that Trump honored the widow of our Navy Seal last evening. How petty

[WVPATX]

and pathetic. One even called her an IDIOT. And some Dems sat on their hands.

Nearly the whole country was moved by the presence of Carryn Owens, widow of slain Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens, during President Donald Trump’s speech to a joint session of Congress.

Nearly, but not all. Some liberals used the emotional moment to attack both the president and the grieving widow.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/28/l...w-president-trump-over-tribute/#ixzz4a5a7O66U

 

[atlkvb]

and pathetic. One even called her an IDIOT. And some Dems sat on their hands.

Nearly the whole country was moved by the presence of Carryn Owens, widow of slain Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens, during President Donald Trump’s speech to a joint session of Congress.

Nearly, but not all. Some liberals used the emotional moment to attack both the president and the grieving widow.

Tweets attacking the president and Carryn Owens are screen captured below.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/28/l...w-president-trump-over-tribute/#ixzz4a5a7O66U

All of this "tolerance" from the open minded, fair, compassionate, considerate, non judgmental, racially diverse, sensitive, kind and understanding Left.

 

[WVPATX]

All of this "tolerance" from the open minded, fair, compassionate, considerate, non judgmental, racially diverse, sensitive, kind and understanding Left.

There are two types of liberals today. The old style liberal that believed in truly liberal values of free speech, tolerance, equality, understanding, listening, compassion, etc.

The other type is taking over the party. Gone are the old liberal values. Free speech, nah. We need to shut down speakers we don't like. We need safe spaces and trigger warnings. Tolerance, nah. The GOP is the enemy and must be destroyed. Equality, nah. We have identity politics. Like Animal Farm, everyone is equal except some are more equal than others. Understanding, nah. Impose our agenda regardless of small things like religious liberty. Compassion, nah. Burn it down. Hurt people. Destroy things. Do what is necessary to achieve our goals.

Very, very different party is emerging.

 

[atlkvb]

There are two types of liberals today. The old style liberal that believed in truly liberal values of free speech, tolerance, equality, understanding, listening, compassion, etc.

The other type is taking over the party. Gone are the old liberal values. Free speech, nah. We need to shut down speakers we don't like. We need safe spaces and trigger warnings. Tolerance, nah. The GOP is the enemy and must be destroyed. Equality, nah. We have identity politics. Like Animal Farm, everyone is equal except some are more equal than others. Understanding, nah. Impose our agenda regardless of small things like religious liberty. Compassion, nah. Burn it down. Hurt people. Destroy things. Do what is necessary to achieve our goals.

Very, very different party is emerging.

PAX, when has the modern Left ever been "tolerant"?

Remember how they treated Reagan? Clarence Thomas? GW Bush? Sarah Palin? (She 's a Woman)

Christians?

Look what many of them on this board say about me? (I'm Black & Christian)


Different Party?


Really PAX?

 

[WVPATX]

PAX, when has the modern Left ever been "tolerant"?

Remember how they treated Reagan? Clarence Thomas? GW Bush? Sarah Palin? (She 's a Woman)

Christians?

Look what many of them on this board say about me? (I'm Black & Christian)


Different Party?


Really PAX?

I really believe that. Reagan and Tip got along. They drank together. And compromised (Reagan got his military build-up, Tip got more social spending). They did at one time favor free speech, fervently. The ACLU used to defend even the KKK against free speech limitations. They used to be much more tolerant of religious observations.

Yes, they have changed dramatically as identity politics has taken over as their main goal. They are willing to jettison those virtues in favor of what is best for their various identity groups.

 

[atlkvb]

They are willing to jettison those virtues in favor of what is best for their various identity groups.

I don't know PAX you may be correct as far as tactics. I just have a hard time ever recalling the Left either having "virtues" or doing anything other than crushing those who dare interfere with their acquisition of raw political power.

Look at academia, Unions, even Dems back during Roosevelt's era were some vicious Mothers.

 

[WVPATX]

I don't know PAX you may be correct as far as tactics. I just have a hard time ever recalling the Left either having "virtues" or doing anything other than crushing those who dare interfere with their acquisition of raw political power.

Look at academia, Unions, even Dems back during Roosevelt's era were some vicious Mothers.

I think academia has gotten much, much worse over the years. Always liberal for sure. But not activist liberal. They are actually involved in stopping free speech on campuses. They actually incite students to do the same. Remarkable.

 

[atlkvb]

I think academia has gotten much, much worse over the years. Always liberal for sure. But not activist liberal. They are actually involved in stopping free speech on campuses. They actually incite students to do the same. Remarkable.

The environmentalist movement has also turned more hostile, but they've always been extremist and intolerant. Same with the Pro-Abort crowd. Same with the Homosexual Left. Only thing about those groups now is they get more favorable treatment in the media, thus they are viewed somewhat more favorably, but they've all always had Dracula like fangs for their political opposition.

 

[WVUBRU]

I have mixed feelings on it due to Trump's conflicting comments. A few days ago, he put the blame on Obama and the military leaders. That is horrible. Then in that setting last night he honors his service which was excellent. The problem most have is how he is handling the situation and it does appear he is using his death for whatever suits him at the time. That is despicable but you apologists won't understand.

 

[Popeer]

There are two types of liberals today. The old style liberal that believed in truly liberal values of free speech, tolerance, equality, understanding, listening, compassion, etc.

Not many of those left. It's all about the politics of victimhood now, like they don't even remember how that backfired on them in three straight presidential elections from 1980-1988.

 

[WVPATX]

Not many of those left. It's all about the politics of victimhood now, like they don't even remember how that backfired on them in three straight presidential elections from 1980-1988.

I really don't understand it. They are moving further left. Manchin is almost an outcast. He is vilified on left wing blogs. JFK was pro-military spending, pro tax cuts, anti-communist and said at his inauguration " Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

I don't think he fits into today's Dem party.

 

[PriddyBoy]

I really believe that. Reagan and Tip got along. They drank together. And compromised (Reagan got his military build-up, Tip got more social spending). They did at one time favor free speech, fervently. The ACLU used to defend even the KKK against free speech limitations. They used to be much more tolerant of religious observations.

Yes, they have changed dramatically as identity politics has taken over as their main goal. They are willing to jettison those virtues in favor of what is best for their various identity groups.

I don't know if they got along but Clinton and Gingrich brokered a lot of things. Schumer is a pretty good deal maker, but I think he feels locked into the opposition gambit.

The ACLU always did step up for the craziest groups, but they used to even aid a sane white dude if his rights were being denied.

 

[atlkvb]

I really don't understand it. They are moving further left. Manchin is almost an outcast. He is vilified on left wing blogs. JFK was pro-military spending, pro tax cuts, anti-communist and said at his inauguration " Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

I don't think he fits into today's Dem party.

No he doesn't PAX, but this guy sure does:

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

 

[WVPATX]

No he doesn't PAX, but this guy sure does:

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

I think that is becoming the democratic economic mantra. Look at the polls of Dems on economics, they are becoming marxists at least with many identity groups and young people. Very scary.

The incubator are our colleges. Somehow, someway, we need to get much, much more ideological diversity on campuses. This is not education, it is indoctrination.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

All of this "tolerance" from the open minded, fair, compassionate, considerate, non judgmental, racially diverse, sensitive, kind and understanding Left.

atlkvb, I gotta say that the first thing that ran through my mind was 'what will her father-in-law think?' He has already voiced his opinion, what will that do to their relationship and the 3 children that need all the support they can get? I hope her appearing last night doesn't spoil that relationship. She needs more than some applause from Congress, she needs support from family.

 

[WVPATX]

atlkvb, I gotta say that the first thing that ran through my mind was 'what will her father-in-law think?' He has already voiced his opinion, what will that do to their relationship and the 3 children that need all the support they can get? I hope her appearing last night doesn't spoil that relationship. She needs more than some applause from Congress, she needs support from family.

His father is grieving, his response understandable. She is grieving, different response. But I have to think if he watched last night, the sustained applause will hopefully give him a little comfort. It was an extraordinary moment.

 

[atlkvb]

I think that is becoming the democratic economic mantra. Look at the polls of Dems on economics, they are becoming marxists at least with many identity groups and young people. Very scary.

The incubator are our colleges. Somehow, someway, we need to get much, much more ideological diversity on campuses. This is not education, it is indoctrination.

PAX, remember those radical Feminists marching the day after Trump was inaugurated? They were demanding "respect" for their bodies with condoms and/or vaginas pulled on top of their heads! They sympathized with a Muslim radical who honors Sharia Law! However Pro-Life protesters were to told to "go away".

They were saying some of the most disgustingly vile things about parts of their anatomy that even the most obtuse chauvinists won't say in mixed company.

Look at Black Lives Matter...how they openly advocate for Police assassinations "What do we want? Pigs in a blanket...fry 'em like bacon"...

This is beyond indoctrination PAX. They are completely unhinged. Defending partial birth abortions and overlooking infanticide from Kermit Gosnell, but getting violently angry over repeal of EPA regs for harmless Snail darters?

Radical Feminists demand control over their bodies but looked past Clinton's sexual abuse of a minor in the White House. Yet somehow Kelly Ann Conway's feet on a Sofa raises their hackles?

They are irrational, maniacal, delusional, relativist, amoral, and totally without conscience outside of their political ideology and devotion to Leviathan.

 

[PriddyBoy]

His father is grieving, his response understandable. She is grieving, different response. But I have to think if he watched last night, the sustained applause will hopefully give him a little comfort. It was an extraordinary moment.

Yep, it was very moving.

 

[atlkvb]

atlkvb, I gotta say that the first thing that ran through my mind was 'what will her father-in-law think?' He has already voiced his opinion, what will that do to their relationship and the 3 children that need all the support they can get? I hope her appearing last night doesn't spoil that relationship. She needs more than some applause from Congress, she needs support from family.

Agreed ex-pat. Sometimes we all need a little more perspective. We're all human beings first (at least I still hope so) and even the Dead deserve our respect if not support for their survivors if they've given their lives in service to the nation.

To me when it comes to our soldiers, there is no politics...ever.

 

[WVPATX]

PAX, remember those radical Feminists marching the day after Trump was inaugurated? They were demanding "respect" for their bodies with condoms and/or vaginas pulled on top of their heads! They sympathized with a Muslim radical who honors Sharia Law! However Pro-Life protesters were to told to "go away".

They were saying some of the most disgustingly vile things about parts of their anatomy that even the most obtuse chauvinists won't say in mixed company.

Look at Black Lives Matter...how they openly advocate for Police assassinations "What do we want? Pigs in a blanket...fry 'em like bacon"...

This is beyond indoctrination PAX. They are completely unhinged. Defending partial birth abortions and overlooking infanticide from Kermit Gosnell, but getting violently angry over repeal of EPA regs for harmless Snail darters?

Radical Feminists demand control over their bodies but looked past Clinton's sexual abuse of a minor in the White House. Yet somehow Kelly Ann Conway's feet on a Sofa raises their hackles?

They are irrational, maniacal, delusional, relativist, amoral, and totally without conscience outside of their political ideology and devotion to Leviathan.

What's ironic about the abortion debate is that libs often cite Europe as being extremely enlightened. Yet, Europe's abortion laws are much stricter than ours. I simply don't understand the libs abortion argument. They love science until science says DNA is present at the earliest stages of life. They want no restrictions up to and including the final moments before birth. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan (an old style traditional liberal), described partial brith abortion, he said this is very close to infanticide. I think he understated the case.

 

[atlkvb]

What's ironic about the abortion debate is that libs often cite Europe as being extremely enlightened. Yet, Europe's abortion laws are much stricter than ours. I simply don't understand the libs abortion argument. They love science until science says DNA is present at the earliest stages of life. They want no restrictions up to and including the final moments before birth. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan (an old style traditional liberal), described partial brith abortion, he said this is very close to infanticide. I think he understated the case.

The proof of the intellectual bankruptcy of their pro-abortion arguments PAX is the fact they can't even defend what they support. They don't even want to call it what it is.

I've often quipped, the fastest way to turn a Leftist into a Pro-Life supporter is to reveal to an expectant Mom that her Baby is Gay...instead of either a Boy or a Girl.

You'd see them suddenly become the biggest Pro-Life advocates who would make Christians look like little Boy & Girl Scouts.

 

[Best Virginia]

and pathetic. One even called her an IDIOT. And some Dems sat on their hands.

Nearly the whole country was moved by the presence of Carryn Owens, widow of slain Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens, during President Donald Trump’s speech to a joint session of Congress.

Nearly, but not all. Some liberals used the emotional moment to attack both the president and the grieving widow.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/28/l...w-president-trump-over-tribute/#ixzz4a5a7O66U

There are two types of liberals today. The old style liberal that believed in truly liberal values of free speech, tolerance, equality, understanding, listening, compassion, etc.

The other type is taking over the party. Gone are the old liberal values. Free speech, nah. We need to shut down speakers we don't like. We need safe spaces and trigger warnings. Tolerance, nah. The GOP is the enemy and must be destroyed. Equality, nah. We have identity politics. Like Animal Farm, everyone is equal except some are more equal than others. Understanding, nah. Impose our agenda regardless of small things like religious liberty. Compassion, nah. Burn it down. Hurt people. Destroy things. Do what is necessary to achieve our goals.

Very, very different party is emerging.

I remember how you defended the Khan family when Trump disrespected and attacked them. I know you're not a hypocritical liar that only cares about sucking Trump off. You really do care about Gold Star families and men who have died for your freedom. You're a true American hero, just Like Donald J. Trump. You should be proud.:americanflag:

 

[Best Virginia]

The proof of the intellectual bankruptcy of their pro-abortion arguments PAX is the fact they can't even defend what they support. They don't even want to call it what it is.

I've often quipped, the fastest way to turn a Leftist into a Pro-Life supporter is to reveal to an expectant Mom that her Baby is Gay...instead of either a Boy or a Girl.

You'd see them suddenly become the biggest Pro-Life advocates who would make Christians look like little Boy & Girl Scouts.

Donald Trump 'had to ask what a Gold Star family was' after he attacked the Muslim-American parents of the solider killed in Iraq

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arents-solider-killed-Iraq.html#ixzz4a6BTC6HW

 

[wvu2007]

I remember how you defended the Khan family when Trump disrespected and attacked them. I know you're not a hypocritical liar that only cares about sucking Trump off. You really do care about Gold Star Families and men who have died for your freedom. You're a true American hero, just Like Donald J. Trump. You should be proud.:americanflag:

How do you remember that if you just created your account on February 17th? Oh, that's because you are Bud and WVMad. lol

 

[Best Virginia]

How do you remember that if you just created your account on February 17th? Oh, that's because you are Bud and WVMad. lol

Guess what? I can create a new account anytime I want doofus. I've been here since it started, watching you retards blather and spew ignorance.

 

[atlkvb]

Donald Trump 'had to ask what a Gold Star family was' after he attacked the Muslim-American parents of the solider killed in Iraq

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arents-solider-killed-Iraq.html#ixzz4a6BTC6HW

Impeach him!

 

[WVPATX]

I remember how you defended the Khan family when Trump disrespected and attacked them. I know you're not a hypocritical liar that only cares about sucking Trump off. You really do care about Gold Star families and men who have died for your freedom. You're a true American hero, just Like Donald J. Trump. You should be proud.:americanflag:

I have no idea what you are talking about and if I defended the Khan family, what is your point?

Your boys and girls sat on their hands last night when the widow was recognized. Your boys and girls posted awful things about her. Facts are stubborn things.

 

[WVPATX]

Donald Trump 'had to ask what a Gold Star family was' after he attacked the Muslim-American parents of the solider killed in Iraq

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arents-solider-killed-Iraq.html#ixzz4a6BTC6HW

Did you like Clinton? After all, he wrote that he "loathed the military."

Did you like Hillary? After all she lied to the faces of gold star families over the coffins of their loved ones.

Did you like Obama after he went golfing right after the deadliest terrorist attack on our soldiers in Afghanistan?

 

[Best Virginia]

Did you like Clinton? After all, he wrote that he "loathed the military."

Did you like Hillary? After all she lied to the faces of gold star families over the coffins of their loved ones.

Did you like Obama after he went golfing right after the deadliest terrorist attack on our soldiers in Afghanistan?

Trump Attacked All Gold Star Families by Attacking the Khans http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/08/02/opinion-trump-attacked-all-gold-star-families-attacking-khans.html

 

[WVPATX]

Trump Attacked All Gold Star Families by Attacking the Khans http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/08/02/opinion-trump-attacked-all-gold-star-families-attacking-khans.html

So no response to my questions? Talk about deflection.

 

[eerdoc]

All of this "tolerance" from the open minded, fair, compassionate, considerate, non judgmental, racially diverse, sensitive, kind and understanding Left.

What really pathetic people so many on the LEfT have become. Disgraceful and lacking humanity. Not even worth the energy it takes to argue, debate reason with them in an attempt to alter their views. They are, simply, not worth the effort.

 

[wvu2007]

Guess what? I can create a new account anytime I want doofus. I've been here since it started, watching you retards blather and spew ignorance.

LOL You so mad, you WVMAD!

 

[atlkvb]

What really pathetic people so many on the LEfT have become. Disgraceful and lacking humanity. Not even worth the energy it takes to argue, debate reason with them in an attempt to alter their views. They are, simply, not worth the effort.

I'm inclined to agree with you 100% eerdoc, but I sometimes get bored on Blue Lot reading about who's going to win or who's going to lose when the games haven't even been played yet.

At least with the Left here on the OT board, it's fun to argue with people who've already been defeated but don't yet know it.

 

[WVPATX]

I'm inclined to agree with you 100% eerdoc, but I sometimes get bored on Blue Lot reading about who's going to win or who's going to lose when the games haven't even been played yet.

At least with the Left here on the OT board, it's fun to argue with people who've already been defeated but don't yet know it.

When Trump talked about creating jobs for Americans and the Dems sat on their hands, that is a ready made political commercial in many rust belt states. I honestly believe they are becoming completely disconnected from those that used to make up their base.

 

[atlkvb]

When Trump talked about creating jobs for Americans and the Dems sat on their hands, that is a ready made political commercial in many rust belt states. I honestly believe they are becoming completely disconnected from those that used to make up their base.

It is built in "b-roll" Pax as we used to call it in TV news, for the commercials Repubs can run in 2018 against the likes of Maxine Walters, John Lewis, and Keith Ellison.

I'm telling you the Democrats are quaking in their boots, desperate to keep Trump away from bringing jobs and Capital into inner cities to get Blacks off the Government tit.

Their entire political existence is hanging by a thread, so he must be stopped before Blacks are flipped to Trumpian economic populism.

 

[WVPATX]

It is built in "b-roll" Pax as we used to call it in TV news, for the commercials Repubs can run in 2018 against the likes of Maxine Walters, John Lewis, and Keith Ellison.

I'm telling you the Democrats are quaking in their boots, desperate to keep Trump away from bringing jobs and Capital into inner cities to get Blacks off the Government tit.

Their entire political existence is hanging by a thread, so he must be stopped before Blacks are flipped to economic populism.

Very true and you could see it in their faces last evening.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

Guess what? I can create a new account anytime I want doofus. I've been here since it started, watching you retards blather and spew ignorance.

Now THAT sounds like the bud we know and don't love

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

When Trump talked about creating jobs for Americans and the Dems sat on their hands, that is a ready made political commercial in many rust belt states. I honestly believe they are becoming completely disconnected from those that used to make up their base.

I loved seeing it. Basically put into reality that they have transitioned into the party of the elite. CountryRoads doesn't know what to do. Afterall, it's those damn Republican who don't care about the middle class and there for all the world to see was his party effectively booing job creation for the middle class.

 

[D. Denzil Finney]

There are two types of liberals today. The old style liberal that believed in truly liberal values of free speech, tolerance, equality, understanding, listening, compassion, etc.

The other type is taking over the party. Gone are the old liberal values. Free speech, nah. We need to shut down speakers we don't like. We need safe spaces and trigger warnings. Tolerance, nah. The GOP is the enemy and must be destroyed. Equality, nah. We have identity politics. Like Animal Farm, everyone is equal except some are more equal than others. Understanding, nah. Impose our agenda regardless of small things like religious liberty. Compassion, nah. Burn it down. Hurt people. Destroy things. Do what is necessary to achieve our goals.

Very, very different party is emerging.

Don't you think the same thing has happened in the Republican Party? Qyuite a bit of dissention there also. Both parties are and have been evolving.

 

[WVPATX]

Don't you think the same thing has happened in the Republican Party? Qyuite a bit of dissention there also. Both parties are and have been evolving.

The GOP has not moved nearly as much, Imo. The Reagan Republicans did not change much from 1980 to today. Now we have Trump moving the party in a more populist direction. This impacts things like free trade, immigration and some foreign policy, but doesn't impact things like taxes, size of government, regulations, Constitutional law, the right to life, etc. It is certainly becoming more populist in some areas.

Of the two parties, the Dems have moved much further left than the GOP has moved. They are, as polls show, moving in a socialist economic direction. They want bigger entitlements like free education. They want a single payer system of health care. They are not free speech any longer (at least a large part of the base). Not for any abortion restrictions. They are now pretty much anti-second amendment and anti-religious liberty outside the walls of the Church. They seem to be In favor of a powerful presidency as they supported Obama's EO's. There used to be some Dem fiscal hawks, no more. They seem to be ok with $20T in debt. They were once the party of the worker, now they seem more focused on the big monied elites on the coasts.

I Reagan would still recognize the GOP today. JFK would not recognize the Dems, Imo.

I do not discount the fact that some in the GOP (NEVERTRUMPers) still hate Trump and his populist movement. Certainly, the GOP is changing. Just not as much, imo.