Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

This was touched on the long thread, and I apologize if I am copying someone else's idea, but I felt this topic deserved its own thread.<div><div>
</div><div>What happened yesterday between Mullen and the media got me thinking about how the NFL has rules about coaches doing interviews, training camp practices being open to the public and media, and injuries being disclosed. IMO, the SEC has gotten so big that it is time to create blanket policies about such things. I understand that Mullen doesn't want to open practices or to talk about injuries, I get it. However, the decision should not be his because closing practices to media and fans, in the long run, just isn't good for business. Open practices and interviews, helps the media do their job, and when they do their jobs there is more coverage, info, and it makes it easier for fans to follow the team day in and day out. That is good for business. Furthermore, if the SEC made the policies, then there would be no advantage for any of teams. Right now, I feel like teams close practices for the purpose of going stealth and gaining some advantage, but if everyone was under the same policy there would be no advantage to be gained. </div><div>
</div><div>The SEC has grown so big that its just time for a consistent NFL like policies on interviews, open practices, and injuries.</div><div>
</div><div>Here is a link to some NFL policies:</div><div>
</div><div>http://www.usatoday.com/s...njury-report-cover_N.htm</div><div>http://www.blogandtackle.net/2010-nfl-media-policy/</div> </div>

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

This was touched on the long thread, and I apologize if I am copying someone else's idea, but I felt this topic deserved its own thread.<div><div>
</div><div>What happened yesterday between Mullen and the media got me thinking about how the NFL has rules about coaches doing interviews, training camp practices being open to the public and media, and injuries being disclosed. IMO, the SEC has gotten so big that it is time to create blanket policies about such things. I understand that Mullen doesn't want to open practices or to talk about injuries, I get it. However, the decision should not be his because closing practices to media and fans, in the long run, just isn't good for business. Open practices and interviews, helps the media do their job, and when they do their jobs there is more coverage, info, and it makes it easier for fans to follow the team day in and day out. That is good for business. Furthermore, if the SEC made the policies, then there would be no advantage for any of teams. Right now, I feel like teams close practices for the purpose of going stealth and gaining some advantage, but if everyone was under the same policy there would be no advantage to be gained. </div><div>
</div><div>The SEC has grown so big that its just time for a consistent NFL like policies on interviews, open practices, and injuries.</div><div>
</div><div>Here is a link to some NFL policies:</div><div>
</div><div>http://www.usatoday.com/s...njury-report-cover_N.htm</div><div>http://www.blogandtackle.net/2010-nfl-media-policy/</div> </div>

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

This was touched on the long thread, and I apologize if I am copying someone else's idea, but I felt this topic deserved its own thread.<div><div>
</div><div>What happened yesterday between Mullen and the media got me thinking about how the NFL has rules about coaches doing interviews, training camp practices being open to the public and media, and injuries being disclosed. IMO, the SEC has gotten so big that it is time to create blanket policies about such things. I understand that Mullen doesn't want to open practices or to talk about injuries, I get it. However, the decision should not be his because closing practices to media and fans, in the long run, just isn't good for business. Open practices and interviews, helps the media do their job, and when they do their jobs there is more coverage, info, and it makes it easier for fans to follow the team day in and day out. That is good for business. Furthermore, if the SEC made the policies, then there would be no advantage for any of teams. Right now, I feel like teams close practices for the purpose of going stealth and gaining some advantage, but if everyone was under the same policy there would be no advantage to be gained. </div><div>
</div><div>The SEC has grown so big that its just time for a consistent NFL like policies on interviews, open practices, and injuries.</div><div>
</div><div>Here is a link to some NFL policies:</div><div>
</div><div>http://www.usatoday.com/s...njury-report-cover_N.htm</div><div>http://www.blogandtackle.net/2010-nfl-media-policy/</div> </div>

 

[tenureplan]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

In the long thread, someone said that Locke was an Auburn homer. We had more practices open last year and there was the incident where Dan was sure that they knew what we were running...just a thought.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Maybe, I am not sure that Locke has enough knowledge of football to pass along sufficient information in order to stop something we are running. My point is that the SEC just needs to realize how big it is, and just create a blanket policies in order to insure that the conference get as much publicity as possible. You can't blame coaches because they don't want to be judged till the first game, and don't want any info getting out. The media on the other hand just wants to go their jobs and write good articles. The SEC should help them compromise by just making a fair policy to both sides that applies to all conference teams.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

How does it give anyone an advantage when all of the coaches can do it if they want to?

The coaches are bombarded enough as it is by the media.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

The reason coaches close practices is because they perceive there to be an advantage in doing so. For the good of the conference, the SEC should take that out of their hands.<div>
</div><div>Read the NFL policies in my first post. They do it correctly and there is little complaining about it because everyone is under the same rules. Its good for business.</div>

 

[patdog]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Let each coach handle it the way he wants to. To suggest that there's some unfair advantage one way or the other is ridiculous. Like you say, if there were, then all coaches would handle it in the way that works to their advantage.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

aGAIN... if they all do it, then it isn't a real advantage even if they think it is an advantage.

How is this for the good of the conference? I believe your statement was to give the SEC more publicity... in football. C'mon, really?

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

is full of ****!

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Im confused, I love Coach Mullen as much as the rest of you, but do you guys not want more media coverage and better practice reports? I don't understand why you would be against this.

 

[tenureplan]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

nm

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Tenure, great point, but it would not hurt us on game day if Auburn, Bama, OM, LSU, and everyone else had just as many open practices and interviews as we do. It would be even, and the fans and media would benefit because we would have more to read and they would have more to write. Because of the NFL's policies, no NFL team gains an advantage. Its even, and the fans and media benefit from that.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

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[patdog]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

most of us don't give two ***** whether or not he opens practice or is nice to the media.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

The SEC consistently has half or more of the teams in conference playing post season in bowl games. So the SEC makes this policy and the teams we play from other conferences in the bowls don't.

I am being totally honest here. I do not need more access to the football team than I have right now. I don't want to know what their favorite pizza topings are. I don't want to know if someone had to go take a dump.

At some point, the fans and media have to let the coaches and teams focus on what they are there to do.

 

[tenureplan]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

What is to stop the schools with the deeper pockets and lower scruples (I'm looking at you Auburn) to send out spies to these practices. You heard Mullen say that the things that they want to emphasize will get the most reps. So it wouldn't be hard to figure out what we are emphasizing.

 

[AssEndDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

We hire coaches to decide how they want to run their teams. I'm not taking a decision out of a head coaches hand unless there is a VERY compelling reason and just wanting to keep Brad "Dickhead" Locke from getting his panties in a wad is not a good enough reason. If Dan is working on something he plans to spring on Bama mid-year and he doesn't want people knowing about it he should have every right to close practices. If he feels that he needs some more fan exposure and he wants to throw a bone to the media he can open the practice. But I see absolutely no reason why we should take this decision out of his hands.

You want more information and more access well tough ****. Just print this out and read it every morning: "We aren't going to be as good as you hope, we aren't going to be as bad as you fear." There, now you can rest easy and just wait to watch the games.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

You guys are completely missing the boat on this. It is better for the business when practices are open. The media can write more articles, release more video, and do more interviews. Then we will have more coverage and more to read. Then the media will make more money because there are more people reading their stuff and that makes the SEC worth more money. When the SEC is worth more money then MSU gets a bigger check at the end of the day. The SEC should realize this and make policies that maximize he amount of exposure the conference can possibly get while also making sure that no team's ability to win on the field is compromised in any way. The NFL does this and the SEC should as well. I am not sure how much easier I can explain this. <div>
</div><div>By the way, I don't like Locke or Marcello either. I am just making a general point about how in some small way blocking the media is not good for the conference.</div>

 

[TheGodfather]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

This was touched on the long thread, and I apologize if I am copying someone else's idea, but I felt this topic deserved its own thread.<div><div>
</div><div>What happened yesterday between Mullen and the media got me thinking about how the NFL has rules about coaches doing interviews, training camp practices being open to the public and media, and injuries being disclosed. IMO, the SEC has gotten so big that it is time to create blanket policies about such things. I understand that Mullen doesn't want to open practices or to talk about injuries, I get it. However, the decision should not be his because closing practices to media and fans, in the long run, just isn't good for business. Open practices and interviews, helps the media do their job, and when they do their jobs there is more coverage, info, and it makes it easier for fans to follow the team day in and day out. That is good for business. Furthermore, if the SEC made the policies, then there would be no advantage for any of teams. Right now, I feel like teams close practices for the purpose of going stealth and gaining some advantage, but if everyone was under the same policy there would be no advantage to be gained. </div><div>
</div><div>The SEC has grown so big that its just time for a consistent NFL like policies on interviews, open practices, and injuries.</div><div>
</div><div>Here is a ]http://www.usatoday.com/s...njury-report-cover_N.htm[/url]</div><div>http://www.blogandtackle.net/2010-nfl-media-policy/</div> </div>

Have you heard of HIPPA.

 

[aTotal360]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

No, we know enough. What else do you want to know? <div>
</div><div>You ever notice that all of the great football coaches are assholish, control freaks. They are successful because they have a success overall strategy. If concealing injuries is part of that overall strategy, so be it.</div><div>
</div><div>I am for whatever our coach is for. If he wants to have open practices and hand out x-rays at the door, then I willsupportthat plan.</div>

 

[tenureplan]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Opening up practices isn't going to make the SEC worth more money.

It's funny that nobody agrees with you, but everyone else is "missing the boat".

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Yes, I have heard HIPPA. The NFL does it everyday. How can they get away with it? Please read the linked NFL policies before commenting

 

[tenureplan]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

nm

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Sorry your wrong Tenure. Explain to me how opening practices, like the NFL has done for years, isn't good for business? Please I am itching to hear your response.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Winning is all that matters and if they need the camera out of their faces during practice so that they can focus on what is important, then so be it.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Deer Hunter, the NFL is the most valuable league on the planet. So you are saying that the NFL is a reality show and winning isn't important? It works for them, so why wouldn't work for the SEC? <div>
</div><div>Furthermore, If you would have read the NFL media policies, you have seen that there cannot be cameras in the players faces during practice. </div><div>
</div><div>PLEASE READ THE LINKED NFL MEDIA POLICIES BEFORE COMMENTING. IT MAKES YOU LOOK IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO BEFORE COMMENTING.</div>

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

what happens if LSU, Bama, Florida, and Auburn had not won their National Championships in the last decade? Would open practices and more articles cover the void of lost money?

How much more money are you thinking it will make? Give us a round about number. Make some sort of argument beyond simple conjecture and maybe, just maybe someone will listen. Use some data from the NFL showing how much more revenues they were able to bring in because of said policies. Do something more than making **** up.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Der Hunter, you are embarrassing yourself here for no reason. Your posts lack logic. You don't need data for common sense man.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

and if Dan Mullen or Nick Saban or Les Miles think that having their teams focus on practice without a reporter there shoving a camera in their faces is the way to get it done, then I am on board.

 

[TheCosmoKramer]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

I know that doesn't really matter, but it makes me question how much people know about the subject when they can't even get the name of the law right.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

SELL

 

[tenureplan]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Do you even realize that the first article you linked talked about how pointless the NFL injury report is?

Show how it has made the NFL any money.

 

[patdog]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

You point to the NFL's success as proof that their policy is the only policy that's good for business. But the same argument can easily be used against you. The SEC in the last decade isby far the most successful conference in the history of college football. And MSU under Dan Mullen is setting records for attendance and donations every year. By your logic, that's proff that the SEC's policyis good for business too, as is MSU's policy.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Der Hunter,<div>
</div><div>I am going to do you a favor. I am going to post the link again for the NFL media policies. Please read before commenting again, and let me know at what point the media is shoving cameras in players faces during practice. Furthermore, the rules don't have to be exactly like the NFL's policies. I am simply advocating for a blanket SEC media rule and open practice rule that all teams can live with. That way fans get more coverage and coaches are never again put in the position again like what happened yesterday.</div><div>
</div><div>PLEASE CLICK ON THE BELOW LINK:</div><div>
</div><div>http://www.blogandtackle.net/2010-nfl-media-policy/</div>

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Thanks Patdog, So if you owned a business and made say $10 a year, and that was awesome and you could buy anything you wanted with that $10, you wouldn't want to make $15 a year? Other than the welfare of the student athlete, I don't understand the reasoning for closing off a potential revenue stream. It makes no sense to me why 10 or so preseason practices can't be open if every other SEC team is required to do the same thing. I don't see who that hurts.

 

[Derhmpr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

in bulk

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

Well lets see, the injury report gives fans more information. That information creates more interest in the team because people are able to follow the team more closely and it creates more interest in fantasy football because the players have more information in order to work with. <div>
</div><div>I don't support the injury policy near as much as I support the media policy. I probably shouldn't have included the medical part. Either way, I believe the SEC should create a blanket policy so that he all teams are expected to offer the same transparency.</div>

 

[shotgunDawg]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

You guys keep calling me names, and that is fine, but please give a legitimate objective reason as to why what I am calling for is not good for the conference. If someone gives a legitimate reason then I may change my mind. However, as of now, that hasn't come close to happening.

 

[DerHntr]

Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews

$, money, funds, dollar, dollars, and cash.

None of them pop up. I therefore did not read it.

Here is your problem shotgundawg. You think that this policy makes the NFL more money. You also think that this policy will make the SEC more money. All I am asking you to do is show how much money it will make the SEC based on how much you think this policy makes the NFL. Where you go wrong is that you are correlating the NFL's success as a league based on open practices and injury reports.I guarantee you this is not a correlation of +1.

I'll use Patdog's example to show how anyone could make an argument against you.

"The SEC is the most successful and wealthiest football league in history. The SEC does not have a league-wide policy regarding the listing of injured players and they do not require that coaches have open practices for the media. This creates a buzz about the secrecy of practices in the SEC and increases fan interest. Thus, the SEC is successful and wealthy because of their lack of having a policy regarding injuries and open practices."