Listening to OOB on the way to work...

[dawgstudent]

Bo blamed part of our basketball problems on a lack of a good strength and conditioning program. If this is a problem, which I have heard before, why has there never been a change? Surely, we could let Akins do the rest of the sports he is responsible for and go hire a new S&C coach for basketball or just let him go altogether if he is that bad?

 

[Thick]

that much about good sports radio. Bounds is actually RIGHT about our S & C program, but RS is not going to get rid of Akins. The HC is just as responsible as Akins, and apparently Stans has no beef with the S&C program. Congrats to Bo for actually making sense!!!

 

[dawgstudent]

if Akins is part of the problem - why isn't he gone?

 

[DerHntr]

somewhat of a hardass disciplinarian. That would greatly conflict with our current style at MSU basketball.

 

[Thick]

I know Akins personally, and he can be a hard *** if you are bullshitting around. I would not be surprised the least bit, if Akins has reported several past and current players to Stans for missing and/or not working hard during S&C workouts and Stans letting it slide. Matter of fact, I know that it's happened on several different occasions.

 

[SallyStansbury]

Stans can kind of hang around like Paterno did.

1. except not **** himself in publicor allow known rapists to hang around.
2. continue to recruit well.
3. turn over discipline and S&C to said hire.
4. hire Big Train to recruit point guards and coach fundamentals.

That should about do it. Williams had Stans to complement him; Stans needs to find a ying for his yang.
Striklin needs to be on this.

 

[dawgstudent]

becasue if Akins is trying to run a S&C program and Stansbury is not backing him up when discipline needs to be administered, then - like I said - it's on Stansbury.

Or if Stansbury doesn't like Akins and that's why he doesn't back him up - then why is he our S&C Coach.

 

[GloryDawg]

I tried to listen to them but got depressed. All I have now is 106.7, 105.1 and Bo.

 

[Seinfeld]

I would not be surprised the least bit, if Akins has reported several
past and current players to Stans for missing and/or not working hard
during S&C workouts and Stans letting it slide.

I don't have any clue as to what goes on in the basketball weight room, but one thing I do know is that all the pushing and yelling in the world won't mean a damn thing if the S&C coach doesn't have the full support of the head coach. By that, I don't mean Stans occasionally showing up and saying "Ok guys, let's get serious". I'm talking about setting goals for each player and you don't play if you don't meet certain requirements. I honestly can't think of one MSU player in the Stansbury era that has either gained significant muscle mass or lost a lot of baby fat, and it's hard for me to blame a professional trainer when I fully believe that even my inexperienced self could get results out of players if I had the support to do so.

 

[shaschboy]

weight room in the SEC per our athletic department. Don't believe me-email one of them and ask them. Apparently, our weight room at the new center is tops in the SEC(well, maybe a close first, but we'll give Kentucky the edge).

It's a shame for all of that equipment to get used only by the janitors when they wipe the dust off.

 

[Coach34]

Let me remind you- it was The Recruiter that didn't want the guys lifting and working out. It was The Recruiter that backed Marckell Patterson and his parents because Marckell didn't want to do squats.
The Recruiter was made to change his philosophy on S&C by Strick after last season- we are basically in our 1st real season of strength training in basketball now

Akins has been at State since the mid-80's, so he wouldn't be fired- if The Recruiter isn't liking Richard- it's because he is working them harder than The Recruiter wants. Richard is a hardass, and is very demanding. He teaches classes on the ****. To say that he doesn't know what he is doing is laughable

This is actually funny it's coming out because I talked to him at the La Tech game. He said this team had worked harder than others had in 10 years or so

 

[Coach34]

He couldn't handle working out under Akins. And I'm sure Akins rides him- and The Recruiter is scared he'll quit or some ****. The S&C coach ain't the damn reason Sidney's *** isn't in better shape- I can assure you

Think about it- you don't think it occurred to Akins- who does S&C to feed his family and as hi life's work- that Sidney needed to run 3 miles a day like he did in Texas??? Really???

 

[GloryDawg]

bd

 

[Thick]

There really is nothing to listen to around here.

 

[Chuck Cunningham]

Stansbury doesn't want (or can't let) anyone be TOO tough on these guys, for fear it will piss them off. This is also one of the reasons we have the type of assistants we have. Nice guys, yes-men for Stansbury, good recruiters, but not disciplinarians by any stretch. They are more friends to the players than coaches.<div>
</div><div>This is why we recruit well but can't coach them up. When you kiss their asses during the recruiting process, you can lure great players, but you take a chance - sometimes you're lucky with their background, upbringing, and work ethic (Hood, Moultrie) and sometimes you're not (Sidney). Don't forget: after Renardo's high school practices, his coach would let him stand on the sideline and blow the whistle while the other players ran sprints. True story. When you recruit a player with that background, you run the inherent risk of getting somebody who expects to be coddled, or needs to continuously be told how f'ing great he is, and you can't put somebody like Balis on him or he would be straight the F out of there.</div><div>
</div><div>It's interesting to me how much it is the complete 180-degree-opposite of the way Mullen (and presumably Cohen) run their programs. They are hardasses from the get-go, and pull no punches in a recruit's house. This is, in my estimation, why Mullen misses on some big time talents, but for the most part the guys he gets are willing to work.</div>

 

[War Machine Dawg]

I've heard for years that Rick doesn't give Akins the support he needs to have an effective S&C program. That Rick protects the players and doesn't make them work when they complain about lifting. Seriously, name 1 player who significantly transformed his body under Rick. I can't name one. How many times did all of us say Varnado could put on 15-20 pounds without losing any quickness? Yet he remained a bean pole.

I just don't understand how Rick is still our coach. His record is horribly overinflated and lacks postseason success. He's been clearly demonstrated to lack control over his program. Sidney-Bailey fight, anyone? And he's never had a serious S&C program. Combine all those, and any coach in any sport would have been long since fired. Yet Rick is still hanging around.

 

[NashvilleBulldawg]

I was always curious why Rick was touting that he and Sidney were doing P90X together. No one needs P90X if they have a S&C coach (or one given authority by the HC)!!!!

 

[kired]

who were afraid of letting players work out too much. I've heard multiple excuses --- it messes up their shot, afraid they'll get injured lifting & cause them to miss time practicing basketball, slows them down, can't jump as high, etc, etc.

Maybe that's the way Stansbury believes --- a little S&C and good but doesn't want to over do it.

For what it's worth, I thought Bost looked a little more musclely this year.

 

[Mullenation]

Akins retired in July of 2003 and went and coached at an MPSA school in Columbus (Heritage). He was re-hired to the same job after coming out of retirement in 06.<div>
</div><div>I had the opportunity to work closely with Akins in his years of retirement . He runs a strict, organized program. He is not a jump up a down in your face type of motivator, but when you are not working hard or doing what you are supposed to do for the team, he has his ways of motivation, and they are very effective. Maybe what our program needs is an up and in your face motivator, but as others have said, I don't think Stans will let that happen. Does anyone know who the S&C coach was for basketball during Akins retirement?</div><div>
</div><div>Also, I've had conversations, even watched our basketball games with 2 former players during the Stans era, and the words I kept hearing were "He's an idiot" "Players run all over him" "Kirby was the real coach"</div>

 

[AROB44]

nm

 

[Mullenation]

He was the one the players respected.