Live from City Hall and Sundaygate!!!!!!!..............

cowbell9

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It is shaping up to be a knock down drag out. As I sit here in the Baptist Church parking lot waiting to enter, I see heated battles ensuing twixt good and evil. I am afraid this will be a blood bath. More to come, I must enter the fray!!!!
 

jakldawg

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RobbieRandolph

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Just make sure the person that speaks for the "pro-sunday sales" doesn't turn out to be Curt Crissey like last time this open forum was held.
 

topdawg.sixpack

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I thought the opposing side was going to tar and feather him when he pulled out the Bible and read that verse. Marty Wiseman, moderator of said forum, never got control back.
 

Wethydrant

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Let me first say that I am baptist, I am a preacher, and I am a Pastor. I live in Starkville, and preach in another city. This situation conflicts me to a degree. Why? On a personal level, I have a religious perspective that alcohol is a societal negative. Granted, that is overconsumption of alcoholic beverages. However, in a country where I don't want the state stepping in and running my church with a progressive view, it is not my job to step into state matters and run a religious view. We have Federalism, not a Theocracy. Although I am in college and I have never drank in my life, I must respect those who do not believe in God, or those that just fundamentally disagree on drinking. I don't want to put my religious foot into a state affair because then I would open the door for state to mess in our church business and limit my rights. The government says if you are over 21 you can drink, why should a theocratic ordinance prevent that just because it is a Sunday. For this cause, I support sunday sales although personally I do not believe it is right. I was there tonight (on the back row...finally get to sit where Baptists like to sit..HAHA) and yes, the (redacted) who spoke of gang-banging/cop killing was WAY over the top. Here is a concern I have to show the two-facedness of people's views. We are battling over health care in which obese people (and there were tons [no pun intended] on display there tonight) are driving up costs for insurance at a rapid pace. Since alcohol is so deadly (and yes it can be), why don't we propose to shut down the buffets on Sundays. The fat baptists would not be for that, but yet the overeating they do on Sunday is bad for their health too. The Bible puts gluttony and drunkeness together on many occasions so maybe if Sunday sales is voted down, we can propose legislation to shut down the restaurants on Sundays. ***By the way, I think they need to review and change a few parts of the proposal. The new 100 foot air space rule...Why? Let's leave that at 250. And let's close down early too (1 am instead of 2...is that early enough) for the sake of neighborhoods wanting to sleep and finally, maybe someone can clarify what that confusing open container proposal is all about.
 

dawgstudent

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the later the better. The later it closes - the less of a chance of a late night.
 

Harry Doyle

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The new 100 foot air space rule...Why? Let's leave that at 250.

I think the reasoning behind that rule is that there is some very tiny church just north of main street that prevents restaurants/bars from opening on just one side of the street for only one block (North side of Main Street between Lafayette and Washington).

How practical is it to allow restaurants on 1 side on main street and not the other?
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Stansfield

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The sabbath is on Saturday anyways. Why don't the southern baptists get that plank out of their eye before they continue messing with state affairs?
 

ElectroSpanish

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First, let me say that I appreciate and support most of your well reasoned position on seven day sales except that I plan to drink more than you. To answer a few questions you asked and maybe some you didn't.
As you pointed out there are a lot of fat people in this country and particularly in our state. The Barnhill's could be a contributing factor but I don't have any confirmation of that. However, I do know that heart disease is the leading causes of death in MS. Moderate responsible consumption of alcohol helps prevent heart disease. If all of the teetotalers in the state were to become responsible drinkers our health care cost due to heart disease alone would go down.

As someone else has pointed out the distance change is to allow down town to grow and not just because of a tiny church north of main street but also the now sprawling 1st Baptist Campus completely shuts off Lampkin for growth. As for the schools I think we could leave that at 250 and have no growth issues but, in 10 years that may be different.

I don't know about the open container law but I think it's to help make beer consumption at festivals like bulldog bash and Johnny Cash less of a legal issue. But again I'm not sure.
 

Maroon Eagle

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"My friends,</p>

"I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey.</p>

"If when you say whiskey you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.</p>

"But;</p>

"If when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.</p>

"This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise."</p>
Thanks, Wikipedia.
 

DerHntr

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I was there tonight (on the back row...finally get to sit where Baptists like to sit..HAHA) and yes, the retard who spoke of gang-banging/cop killing was WAY over the top.
right.......
 

Dawg152

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Actually the 250 ft rule needs to change more than anything. You would be surprised at the amount of property and the speed at which the churches are acquiring it downtown.
 

Wethydrant

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Actually Derhntr, my choice of the word "retard" was offensive to some and I have asked their apologies. My point being that it is rather ludicrous to say their will be girls getting gang-banged/raped in the streets on Sunday when alcohol is already sold Monday-Saturday. That is a dumb assessment in my mind!
 

AssEndDawg

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Let me first say that I am baptist, I am a preacher, and I am a Pastor.
Admitting you are part of the problem and not a reasonable part of the solution in the beginning makes your point moot.