yknow what? They know that - and don't care. Risks of booting super talented receiver outweigh risks of blowback from lawsuits.
You're way off base here. Neither Stoops nor anyone in the athletics department had any control in this mess. This was a Dean of Students fiasco. Tubman should have sued for lack of due process. He would have won.
From what I understand EC is the only person that could have intervened in the process and stopped it.
Well, I've been pretty critical of Mitch in the past, but the Tubman situation had zero to do with him. It was over his authority level as soon as it started. What should have happened is to allow our judicial system to handle the case and UK respect the decision. Instead they turned to an internal kangaroo court which is biased by design and instruction from the Dept. of Education.
You're partly making our case for us. He may not have gotten big offers. He is a great athlete, with size and speed. Hmm, wonder why other schools may pass on him. Could it be that he was tainted by a corrupt process that didn't even allow him to defend himself? There isn't a shred of evidence to corraborate the girls story, however, there is circumstantial evidence that Tubman is telling the truth. I believe you have your convicted rapist to worry about. You needn't concern yourself with an unproven accusation. You're in a glass house heavily leaning to one side.
A Grand Jury refused to indict due to lack of evidence. Now, shall we talk about the difference between that and your convicted rapist?
Lloyd never wanted to play at Loservlle He wants his Mom to see him play Clarksville TN is a few hours away..Utah State was never seriously considered.
For a Vandy fan you are a dolt..He was charged or he would not have been arrested..The Grand Jury found No True Bill from the Latin translation no evidence.Ray Larsen the Commonwealth Attorney chose to let him walk.The Plaintiff should have been charged with Filing A false report..He has no criminal record..
Yes, if you're a male university student. The concept now is guilty until proven innocent. That comes from the all powerful hand of our federal government, specifically, the dept. of education. Sadly, it is almost impossible to prove a negative.
You do realize that what you describe is true for a majority of rapes?
So says the man who doesn't know the difference between a jury trial and a bench trial. Yes, folks, that was the Fuzzster over on the Paddock, popping off about that "jury trial" in Baltimore for the Freddie Gray case defendants. Yes, our Fuzzster is quite the legal scholar.
Ok, prove it was a false report?
Nice deflection of the facts. Whenever facts smack you in the face...change the subject.
Nope, but there has to be something before you start ruining people's lives. You and I have had this discussion before. My issue is the total lack of due process in these kangaroo courts operated by universities at the arm twisting threats from the dept of education. If a guy is guilty of rape, he should be in prison, not kicked out of school. University staffers are unqualified to make these decisions. It is impossible for them to be impartial, the first rung on the due process ladder. It goes downhill from there. You do realize that Grant Neal at Colorado State University, Pueblo, by all accounts an upstanding young man, honor student, preparing for medical school was tossed from school by a complaint from someone who knew NOTHING about the incident. The so called rape victim had a hickey, so a busy body turned him in for rape. She WAS NOT THERE. The so called rape victim told the school she WAS NOT RAPED. Yet, the kangaroo court did what kangaroo courts do. If you support that idiocy, I feel pretty sorry for you. He had NO DUE PROCESS. A university is a state actor. There is no ambiguity in that. I suppose you think it's a good idea to throw our constitution out the window simply because a girl claims she was assaulted? Try the case in a real court with real defense and real rules for evidence and real rights to impartiality and the right to cross examine. Then, the chips fall where they fall. Here, read up on Grant and stay on that moral high horse. http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/04/19/csu-pueblo-grant-neal-suspension-consensual-sex/
Well, Mr. Wizard, I see one of the problems. You neither understand nor appreciate our legal system. Lloyd never needs to prove she said "yes". You only need to prove your innocence in a kangaroo court. You see, the prosecution actually has to prove your guilt. You just displayed the exact reason why universities should NEVER be making these decisions.
It's over for Lloyd, but the bigger problem of kids lives being ruined by universities is not. I'm glad he is moving on with his life but what it has cost him at the hands of UK should be discussed.
Lloyd had a hand in it as well. He put himself in a tough situation. Lot of things about life that aren't fair. I prefer to read about our football team. Go take the argument up with UK or the ACLU
I'll take it up how I please. If you don't like it, don't read it. You know, move on.
Yep. The Gators know how to keep their star players on the field:
