Lonnie Tinklecohen
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I'll judge Cohen on what he does behind the scenes here. Work with the 12 other ADs on making changes to officiating crews.
My suggestions:
1) No official can officiate in the same matchup for two consecutive years (See six of the seven officials we had on Saturday).
2) An official can officiate no more than two games for a team in a given year. For alternate officials, this rule does not apply unless the alternate is called in to officiate. This rule does not apply for the SECCG.
3) Officials who have any kind of affinity to a school cannot officiate a game with that team in it. Affinity is defined as having attended a university for academic credit (any amount), full-time employment, or part-time employment for a period over 1 year, or having an immediate family member (parent, spouse, sibling, or child) or in-law do the same. This would severely limit some current officials, so they are mostly grandfathered into the system, meaning this rule applies to oneself but does not apply to family members.
4) Officials must hold a press conference after the games and answer questions, much like the coaches do. The referee must attend and each head coach can select another official who must attend. If both coaches agree to it, the conference can be waived.
My suggestions:
1) No official can officiate in the same matchup for two consecutive years (See six of the seven officials we had on Saturday).
2) An official can officiate no more than two games for a team in a given year. For alternate officials, this rule does not apply unless the alternate is called in to officiate. This rule does not apply for the SECCG.
3) Officials who have any kind of affinity to a school cannot officiate a game with that team in it. Affinity is defined as having attended a university for academic credit (any amount), full-time employment, or part-time employment for a period over 1 year, or having an immediate family member (parent, spouse, sibling, or child) or in-law do the same. This would severely limit some current officials, so they are mostly grandfathered into the system, meaning this rule applies to oneself but does not apply to family members.
4) Officials must hold a press conference after the games and answer questions, much like the coaches do. The referee must attend and each head coach can select another official who must attend. If both coaches agree to it, the conference can be waived.
And, of course, the outcome of this cooperative effort to improve the officiating will be stalemate. However, there will be a brand, new conference action to implement the NFL standards for protecting the quarterback against any forcible contact outside of the 2 inch square designated contact area between the belly button and the titties.
John. Here's the point. Even if there is human error (which we saw the Kentucky game go well beyond human error), even if you give the officials the absolute benefit of the doubt, what the SEC cannot ignore is the damage to the SEC brand and the damage to the public trust. It's not just one game. That would be silly. It's a well established, documented pattern with video evidence with officials at Bama games. There's a historical pattern. Even if the officials intentions are pure, something is influencing their judgement. Something is wrong and it's getting national attention. Fans are questioning the integrity of the SEC. As they should be. Something is wrong.
They need to get away from the whole “Steve Shaw is pristine” narrative too. Shaw is a snake working in a snake pit. The league office is corrupted by money and it’s not about the student athlete anymore. It’s all about $$$. They are protecting the brand that brings in the $$$. Which is why Bama gets to exist in a vacuum.
So you either make all the schools the same and all schools get to play by Bama rules or you hold Bama accountable. I can tell you this. Bama will refuse to be apart of this conference if they can’t get preferential treatment.
Other have brought it up but if every school would just forfeit their game against Bama for 1 year that would force drastic changes.
So you either make all the schools the same and all schools get to play by Bama rules or you hold Bama accountable. I can tell you this. Bama will refuse to be apart of this conference if they can’t get preferential treatment.
Other have brought it up but if every school would just forfeit their game against Bama for 1 year that would force drastic changes.
This is the very reason I do not think there is any type of conspiracy or intentional bias among the refs. There is too much to lose if actual cheating by the conference officials were ever uncovered. While it is undoubtedly good for the conference to have at least 1 team in the playoffs every year, it is even better for the conference to build the brand as a conference having depth overall. I just can not believe that that anyone with any type of authority would think it was a good idea to help Bama win games, or beat spreads, or whatever the conspiracy is supposed to accomplish.
That said, the calls in the Bama game were beyond the acceptable level of "human error". If there is not a conspiracy of any sort, then the officials are just grossly incompetent, and the SEC should not allow that to continue....even though it has been going on for a while.
That said, the calls in the Bama game were beyond the acceptable level of "human error". If there is not a conspiracy of any sort, then the officials are just grossly incompetent, and the SEC should not allow that to continue....even though it has been going on for a while.
May be overthinking it a bit. The answer is very simple....hire full-time officials, pay the **** out of them, and hold them accountable using suspension / termination as consequences for failure in their FULL-TIME profession. When they aren’t working games, they are training, going to conferences, and devoting 40-50 hours a week to perfecting their craft. They aren’t going to be subject to being “bought off” or incompetence if the leagues can take away their entire livelihood.
College football churns our billions of dollars per year in profits to the powers that be, and is only paying out a paltry $3000 per game to the individuals making the most important decisions and control everything that hangs in the balance. It’s a ridiculous system. Power 5 officials in football should be making a bare minimum of $150k per year, and they shouldn’t be doing anything else other than learning how to improve themselves on gameday. The NFL has professional officials, and it works. Blown calls are extremely rare, and you pretty much never see a game with more than one missed call. You would absolutely never see the absurdity of the Alabama and UK games with an NFL-caliber crew.
I don't think there's any conference level conspiracy, but there certainly seems to be an individual level of bias from the officials. These days, I suppose it's hard to find full crew who's not a bandwagon Bama fan, even among officials.
He said it's not easy, if you think it is, then you should try it. They are human! I agree and I am not nearly as mad about missing the call on the field, as I am, not reviewing and overturning when it is missed. Almost every fumble I have seen this year was reviewed! This is the very reason we went to official reviews, to get the missed calls corrected. It's BS, and we all know it!
This isn’t human error. Anyone who says that is either naive or obtuse as 17. It’s an all-out plan by the conference to ensure their cash cow advances. Florida was the beneficiary of it. Auburn damn sure benefitted from it. Alabama is running **** now and that is who they will protect.
How about this. If you don't see a foul happen, do not flag it. Don't assume it happened based on what you think happened. I'd rather see a call missed (facemask, block in the back, holding) than one made up. I watched the clip of the play again and you can see the official is looking at the runner. He sees a defender make a diving tackle at Hill and on of our guys behind him with his hands up. Yes, a block in the back was a possibility, but unless you saw it happen, DON'T 17ING CALL IT! That's why this guy deserves ****. Because if the uniforms were swapped, that guy is going to rely on his Bama fandom and make the judgment that there was no block in the back. After all, he wouldn't have seen it.
I think blocks in the back should be done away with totally. That is the stupidest penalty ever. And yes I played HS football. It is a stupid penalty and damn sure should never negate a TD. Especially if the offending player never leaves his feet or launches himself into the back of a non ball carrying opponent. Keep clipping and of course chop blocks but it is stupid to penalize a person for merely placing his hands on the back of an opponent with the intent of changing his direction.
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Yep. A conspiracy involves willful cooperation. But if you are a fan of a school, you'll give them the benefit of the doubt in the iffy cases.
At some point, and I don't think it's far away, the league will realize that the bama dynasty is starting to lower viewership as a whole and cost them money. That's when they will turn on bama. It's will be a business decision.
The SEC is now a billion dollar entertainment business. ESPN bought the live TV rights for even more than that. And the sports gambling is more than both of those combined.
Never in the history of sports entertainment has anything been orchestrated to make more money. Ever.
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