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[Rupp'sRunt]

You guys hate Louisville, I do too, but you guys don't even go about it the right way. You covet their coach then act like its Thug U. You can't have it only one way. Go after the fact UL campus is high in sexual assault and the whole city has a horribly high murder rate. Bobby P platform (and I've heard this from multiple players) " IDC what you do before/after practice as long as you show up not under the influence and give 100%" And I honestly don't blame him for it. He gets recruits that way, not to mention its easy to give your player leeway when the Basketball program is known for hiring whores for recruits and players. Hell Devonte Fields gets charged at TCU for assault and ppl don't bat an eye at UL now bc of the bball fiasco. But please if you're going to go after them for anything at least make a valid argument not "they drink crown royal" and "line beards" That ish is like 10 yrs old. Rant over.

 

[Big John Stud]

Why do act like the city of Louisville and UL are the same thing? Devonte Fi charged with assault not sexual assault. Still bad but not close to the same. You cant expect to be taken seriously if you want us to believe that is any head coaches platform, even a shitbag like Petrino.

 

[Blueisbest]

Apparently Bobby Petrino is a pretty good coach, but he is a scumbag of a human being. I, for one, am glad we didn't try to hire him. I want my coach to have a little integrity and BP has little or none of that.

Mark Stoops may have a ways to go to reach the "great coach" status we hope he can become but he has far surpassed UofL's coach in integrity.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

Why do act like the city of Louisville and UL are the same thing? Devonte Fi charged with assault not sexual assault. Still bad but not close to the same. You cant expect to be taken seriously if you want us to believe that is any head coaches platform, even a shitbag like Petrino.

TCU defensive end Devonte Fields is being investigated for assault and was accused of threatening his ex-girlfriend with a gun, according to a Fort Worth police report. As a result, Fields was suspended from the team.

My bad assault with a deadly weapon against his ex girlfriend. And for all intents and purposes the city of louisville is highly linked to UL. And if you don't believe that is Bobby P platform you don't know the guy. I'm friends with multiple ex players for the school, obviously they look down on herion use and crack, but pot and recreational is a all go. Hell James Quick was caught with an OZ at a UL student housing location and didn't even get in trouble. I've heard of teammates getting beat up in the locker room to guns in the locker room (never openly displayed) but still everyone in Lou knows what the squad does, but they win so no one cares. And if you disagree you just don't know the culture here when Bobby P runs the show, when he left the truth got out of the bag. Strong corrected the ship, well I guess kragthorpe tried to but he didn't win so F em( UL mentality, hell its a winning mentality). But really if you don't think how UL fball carries themselves with Bobby P you're a fool.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

If you don't think Bobby P turns a blind eye to things to win. Hell I've got a lot land to sell and its premium property.

 

[jauk11]

If you don't think Bobby P turns a blind eye to things to win. Hell I've got a lot land to sell and its premium property.

Oh I believe that, I think he should be in jail for misuse of public funds in Arkansas.

But I digress, what you need to know is DON'T sell that land in Florida, when the next ice age comes it will all be above ground.

It's what is called a long term investment.

 

[K_TIME]

No doubt I'm upset that UK stinks so bad which has nothing to do with UL being a ways ahead of where UK will probably ever be...

But I have to agree with the OP, that it isn't worth the means that UL has gone to win.
- Bobby Petrino was a hard call as he's never had a NCAA issue...
- But this is where it gets beyond unbelievable...Devonte Fields was charged with punching his girlfriend and threatening with a gun
- Keeping RIck Pitino after the nightmare of last year is beyond anything I've ever seen. You'll never see a coach survive that mess in your lifetime.
- Two UGA transfers...one was a pure pot debacle at UGA
- James Quick caught with significant amount of pot...no suspension...Hatcher is booted from UK
- THe endless parade of transfers for a variety of issues

I know there is serious divide on morals as it contrasts with winning. Hiring Petrino alone would have been a step in taking eyes off of morals, but it just doesn't end with Petrino. He would have scoured he earth for taking any terrible human being to play football at any cost. That kind of mess has to follow a guy like Petrino...and the culture he allows on your campus. UL looks strong to win a NCAA title which kills me...but I'd rather not win if I have to stomach seeing the thug culture that would follow.

 

[Play some D]

I can't stand the Cards either. But, they very well could be playing for a national championship this year. He may be a scumbag, prolly is, but I think as far as coaching goes, he is the best in college football at having his team ready. We think of him as an offensive genius but their defense is always very good. I knew going into yesterdays game that they were going to drill Florida State.

 

[Saguaro Cat]

I will continue to both abhor Bobby Petrino AND make fun of their fans. And on a side note, both will always be warranted, regardless of how well their football team is performing or ours is not.

 

[catfando]

TCU defensive end Devonte Fields is being investigated for assault and was accused of threatening his ex-girlfriend with a gun, according to a Fort Worth police report. As a result, Fields was suspended from the team.

My bad assault with a deadly weapon against his ex girlfriend. And for all intents and purposes the city of louisville is highly linked to UL. And if you don't believe that is Bobby P platform you don't know the guy. I'm friends with multiple ex players for the school, obviously they look down on herion use and crack, but pot and recreational is a all go. Hell James Quick was caught with an OZ at a UL student housing location and didn't even get in trouble. I've heard of teammates getting beat up in the locker room to guns in the locker room (never openly displayed) but still everyone in Lou knows what the squad does, but they win so no one cares. And if you disagree you just don't know the culture here when Bobby P runs the show, when he left the truth got out of the bag. Strong corrected the ship, well I guess kragthorpe tried to but he didn't win so F em( UL mentality, hell its a winning mentality). But really if you don't think how UL fball carries themselves with Bobby P you're a fool.

Totally different culture at UK. We don't have scumbags in leadership. Don't think he would be allowing those things at UK.

 

[brianpoe]

Mark Stoops may have a ways to go to reach the "great coach" status

Can we get an ETA on Stoops arrival to just OK coach status?

 

[qwesley]

He is a great coach but all you to do is go back to their own words about cleaning things up after he left last time. But let's realize that most of his transfers would not have been accepted here, that is a big deal. He would have made us much better but not near where they are now.

 

[Big John Stud]

Dopeman Jason Hatcher was busted with dopeman James Quick. Hatcher wasn't booted of the team until his 3rd arrest in 3 years.

 

[vhcat70]

So what was Fields convicted of? Thanks.

 

[rmattox]

Bottom line is this for me: There are no NCAA violations and that's the standard. If UK wants to place additional criteria or have higher standards, so be it. If so, the leaders of the university need to realize that by doing so, they put the coach/team at a disadvantage.
For me, the answer is simple. First we need an AD that has confidence in his abilities to manage his coaches. By not hiring BP, mb was simply saying he did not have this confidence.
As for taking kids that make mistakes, again, the coach/administration have to have confidence in their own ability to manage the kids. I guarantee you that Brooks could have managed these kids that ul is taking and by doing so, he would have done what people that work with kids aspire to do: change their lives.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating improper behavior. I'm saying, based on experience, that people that are prone to such behaviors can be changed given the right environment and leadership.

 

[Big John Stud]

Can we say that Tom Jurich can't manage his coaches since they were allowed to hire hookers for the kids.

 

[Stenchymouse]

The whole "UofL thing" was something that I've struggled with since I was a kid.

I always wanted to believe that we are a superior athletic program.

Card fans are very difficult to live with (I live in Louisville, and am surrounded by UofL fans on a daily basis) and they are pretty confrontational.

Just last night at a gig, I had a guy in my face telling me that the Cards are the "king of the state"...I just responded "as far as football goes, you'll get no argument from me. I wish we could have a program like yours".

The thing is, once I accept that we're terrible and our program is nowhere near UofL's in football, then I quit stressing about it.

We need to quit comparing ourselves to them, because they have Jurich and that's about all that needs to be said about that.

 

[Shavers48]

The whole "UofL thing" was something that I've struggled with since I was a kid.

I always wanted to believe that we are a superior athletic program.

Card fans are very difficult to live with (I live in Louisville, and am surrounded by UofL fans on a daily basis) and they are pretty confrontational.

Just last night at a gig, I had a guy in my face telling me that the Cards are the "king of the state"...I just responded "as far as football goes, you'll get no argument from me. I wish we could have a program like yours".

The thing is, once I accept that we're terrible and our program is nowhere near UofL's in football, then I quit stressing about it.

We need to quit comparing ourselves to them, because they have Jurich and that's about all that needs to be said about that.

its not just football, important as that is.

 

[DelkBowl]

There's no doubt in my mind that Jurich is the biggest cheaters in all of division one.

 

[Shavers48]

There's no doubt in my mind that Jurich is the biggest cheaters in all of division one.

you just don't know how, right?

 

[BlueRunner11]

UK fans saying they would never want Petrino, he's a scumbag, he's a cheater, his ways are going to catch up with him eventually blah blah blah sound just like UL fans and the way they go around talking smack about Cal.

Both coaches are the best in the biz, void of NCAA issues and any school would be more than lucky to have either one. The fact that we could've had BOTH is a huge lost opportunity. Spin it however you want to make yourselves feel better.

 

[HiStepper]

You guys hate Louisville, I do too, but you guys don't even go about it the right way. You covet their coach then act like its Thug U. You can't have it only one way. Go after the fact UL campus is high in sexual assault and the whole city has a horribly high murder rate. Bobby P platform (and I've heard this from multiple players) " IDC what you do before/after practice as long as you show up not under the influence and give 100%" And I honestly don't blame him for it. He gets recruits that way, not to mention its easy to give your player leeway when the Basketball program is known for hiring whores for recruits and players. Hell Devonte Fields gets charged at TCU for assault and ppl don't bat an eye at UL now bc of the bball fiasco. But please if you're going to go after them for anything at least make a valid argument not "they drink crown royal" and "line beards" That ish is like 10 yrs old. Rant over.

"UL campus is high in sexual assault and the whole city has a horribly high murder rate."

Take a look at your school's sexual assault problem.
https://www.rt.com/usa/313942-kentucky-sexual-assault-survey/

 

[DelkBowl]

you just don't know how, right?

Cash

 

[buckkiller]

Lol ever won trying to justify our loser program and why it was still right decision not to hire Bobby!! Makes me sick Kentucky thinks they are so high and mighty and to righteous to hire Bobby. Stat stuck in the cellar then!

 

[BoNicholas]

Anyone criticizing the city of Louisville doesn't live there. It's by a wide margin the best place to live in Kentucky. As far as Petrino goes, how's all that moral superiority going to taste when they are national champions and we are firing another coach with 20k at the games?

 

[lex cath]

Apparently Bobby Petrino is a pretty good coach, but he is a scumbag of a human being. I, for one, am glad we didn't try to hire him. I want my coach to have a little integrity and BP has little or none of that.

Mark Stoops may have a ways to go to reach the "great coach" status we hope he can become but he has far surpassed UofL's coach in integrity.

Yes this is awesome, 35-35 tie at half with NMST while in Louisville they crushed number 2 team in the nation and on Gameday. But bygod we are moral ray:

 

[Shavers48]

Cash

could well be. the thing about good rackets is they are self reinforcing and become more entrenched over time. (see healthcare as example)

 

[DelkBowl]

could well be. the thing about good rackets is they are self reinforcing and become more entrenched over time. (see healthcare as example)

Yup. You don't keep a cheater with a show cause on staff without paying him off to keep secrets.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Personally I have a gut feeling every snap taken by Jackson this year will be vacated.
imp:

 

[jnewc2_rivals30628]

I don't know..when I listen to the game and listen to ESPN commentators I haven't heard them mention a single time how Louisville lacks morals or ethics. I know we love to talk about that but I haven't once read or heard anyone in the national media talk about how Louisville is trading morals for wins. You know why? Because that's what college sports is all about. At this point people don't care. Most of the best programs cheat their *** off and have players and coaches doing things just as bad or worse than Louisville. We only bring it up because we like to make excuses for why we're losers. It's a lot like Indiana. They're to the point where they're proud to be the ethical loser and we've become the exact same.

 

[kypecos]

Please. Every college football program, which consists of around 100 kids/young men, will occasionally have issues. Us, them, everyone. Nature of the beast and a game of numbers. Heck, take 100 of your relatives and friends and tell me that none have ever had an issue; you'd be in the minority.

Petrino has never had a NCAA issue and UofL's transfers did not have convictions (as far as I recall). And his teams seem to stay out of trouble no matter where he is coaching. So you have a masterful coach who appears to manage a program very well. Now if you want to talk about personal issues, that's a different conversation -- his misdeeds have been well publicized. But his football life appears to be impeccable especially in terms of results. I know that it's hard to be rational on a message board but let's not get too carried away with the criticisms. More scandal has occurred at UK on Stoop's watch (player misconduct, etc.) than at UofL on Petrino's watch. I just hate these threads that try to throw stones from glass houses.

 

[Chadrock]

You guys hate Louisville, I do too, but you guys don't even go about it the right way. You covet their coach then act like its Thug U. You can't have it only one way. Go after the fact UL campus is high in sexual assault and the whole city has a horribly high murder rate. Bobby P platform (and I've heard this from multiple players) " IDC what you do before/after practice as long as you show up not under the influence and give 100%" And I honestly don't blame him for it. He gets recruits that way, not to mention its easy to give your player leeway when the Basketball program is known for hiring whores for recruits and players. Hell Devonte Fields gets charged at TCU for assault and ppl don't bat an eye at UL now bc of the bball fiasco. But please if you're going to go after them for anything at least make a valid argument not "they drink crown royal" and "line beards" That ish is like 10 yrs old. Rant over.

This is the only post I read in the thread and I see it's someone posting as ruppsrunt. basketball first, yes. chastising people who want football to succeed, got it. the people want a winner in football...unfortunately for those sitting in their comfy chairs at the basketball offices that run athletics at uk, its going to get a little nasty sooner rather than later.