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Optimus Prime 4

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I've been wondering when something like this would happen

Wouldn't a lot of SEC teams be affected? It seems most coaches are involved in some FCA stuff or whatever.
 

RocketDawg

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Not just SEC ... it would affect teams nationwide. Personally, I don't see what they object to unless it's forced upon the players. In general, I think it's good for players overall, since it tries to teach them ways of life and some semblance of morality. Freeze seems to get carried away with it at times, but overall it seems to be a pretty good idea to me.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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the only issue I can really see is if there is a perceived requirement of doing it, or that it affects playing time, etc. There is probably something about doing it on the school's time or during meetings, etc. but I'm not sure. All that could be simply avoided by the coach.
 

godlluB

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Not just SEC ... it would affect teams nationwide. Personally, I don't see what they object to unless it's forced upon the players. In general, I think it's good for players overall, since it tries to teach them ways of life and some semblance of morality. Freeze seems to get carried away with it at times, but overall it seems to be a pretty good idea to me.

Ok, re-read the article, but now imagine the coach is Muslim, or maybe Hindu.

I'll be your reaction would be "Hell yeah, fire his ***!" The whole point of the article is that it *IS* being forced on the players.
 

RocketDawg

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Actually, I wouldn't mind if they also had Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist teachings, as long as it's not required attendance, or even perceived to be so. We may even have some Muslim players for all I know. So no, you're wrong about my reaction. Mullens could even have sessions on Scientology if he wanted (well, that might be pushing it a little since it's not really a religion ....).
 

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Ok, re-read the article, but now imagine the coach is Muslim, or maybe Hindu.

I'll be your reaction would be "Hell yeah, fire his ***!" The whole point of the article is that it *IS* being forced on the players.

Pretty sure those players chose to go to school there and knew how the coaches were . If they don't like it they can go elsewhere.
 

godlluB

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Actually, I wouldn't mind if they also had Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist teachings, as long as it's not required attendance, or even perceived to be so. We may even have some Muslim players for all I know. So no, you're wrong about my reaction. Mullens could even have sessions on Scientology if he wanted (well, that might be pushing it a little since it's not really a religion ....).

Then I apologize for my assumption.

I really don't think that any reasonable person has a problem with a group of students (athletes or not) meeting for religious observances. However, when a government funded employee who is in a position of authority starts mandating religious observance of those under his/her influence, it's a different matter. Even if the meetings aren't mandatory, a player who declines to participate may still be ostracized by the other players and coaches.

Summer workouts aren't mandatory, either. Coaches can't even be there, but see how your career works out if you don't participate in these "voluntary" meetings.
 

DerHntr

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Pretty sure those players chose to go to school there and knew how the coaches were . If they don't like it they can go elsewhere.

"Chose to go to school there TO PLAY FOOTBALL"

You forgot a few words. Fixed it for you.
 

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While I agree that it's a good thing to promote an atmosphere of morality and religious devotion in all things I have to admit that the false sense of "Godliness" that a lot of coaches try to sell is nauseating and hypocritical. Freeze fires off Bible verses all the time and Baptizes boosters kids while dropping the 17 bomb and trying to fight fans in the stands at football games. If Freeze was half as religious as he pretends to be he would stomp out all the swallowing white girls and blow parties in Oxford. Auburn also took it to the extreme with Trooper Taylor and his antics.

Coaches should not use religion as a Crootin' tactic. It cheapens the meaning for all involved. Coaches, by nature, usually fall far from Godliness and the whole religious front is meant for nothing more than to sell parents on their program.
 

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That's how I see it. Mullen isn't innocent in using it either. It almost makes me want to vomit how much Christianity has been infused with Mississippi high school recruiting. It's an insult to me as a Christian.

And I'm sure if you ask a reasonable Ole Miss fan (unicorn) they'll agree. For the other ones who like to measure dicks it's just another category in which they can claim a fake championship.

"Freeze is a better Christian than Mullen."

"Ole Miss is an even more Christian school."

"Blah blah blah if you go to MSU I fear for your soul."

Evident in them flipping their **** when Mullen tweeted some Bible verses. They absolutely believed he was poking a stick at them. It's impossible for a guy from New Hampshire who coaches their 2nd favorite rival to have the same faith as their ordained coach.
 

00Dawg

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A ton of coaches are, and frankly, they should be able to. Meanwhile, I only see two points where these yahoos might have a legitimate complaint:
1. Religious studies between drills (honestly, there's almost no way that's an accurate description...any coach would be insane to interrupt practice like that)
2. If Trapp really wasn't selected by the students

You can't ask people not to be involved in or lead private religious meetings, no matter their position or manner of payment (hourly or salaried). To get any serious traction with this, they'll have to produce examples where players suffered by not attending, and since they didn't mention any, I doubt they have any.