Looks like 1 school in MS is serious about football.
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I could have told you that when zach arnett was named head coach and Brad Peterson was allowed to put together his staff. That’s not something P4 programs do.
That told the tale on our fanbase. 80% loved it. RuNdAbAwL
With portal and nil, it doesn't take two years to put a program together. There is no more building a program with high school guys and transfers. Those days are gone. You build new roster every year. Any other corporation if the CEO performs with two years of crap the board of directors will fire his ***. Lebby coaching call are horrible and he doesn't learn from them. Worse he should know what he was doing before he got the job. I am not talking running the football program. Yes, there are some things you have to learn first time on that job. What I am talking his X's and O's during the game. He does not know what he is doing. It is obvious he can't do the job. He can't think fast enough. He needs help and if he is not willing to get it he needs to be fired.
this was supposed to be a re-building year for OM, losing a senior QB, three great receivers, a great tight end, their entire running game, and their all-in expensive defense they bought, and they re-loaded in one portal year and are in the CFP. at the end of last year, they were only returning 5 players on the 2 deep roster. Lebby gets way to much slack given to him because our people are stuck thinking this is the 2000's.
They did get lucky with scheduling. Only three of the eight SEC teams on their schedule are above 500 and one of them is LSuU.
Yes, their schedule was very favorable these last two seasons and they did 17 even that up last year.
But they're clearly a Top 6 team this year, no matter the schedule. I expect them to look like it next week.
I don’t really care to hear the “OM got lucky with scheduling” stuff. They won in Norman and very nearly won in Athens. That’s a really good football team.
On the flip side, let’s not pretend our schedule has been some murderer’s row. We’ll end up playing 3 playoff teams so that’s tough. But we have lost games to 3-7 Florida and to a Mizzou team on its third string QB. Also Texas is way worse then people expected, they were preseason number 1 and will be playing in like the Music City Bowl…. Still lost to that team at home, and lost to a comparable Tennessee team at home too.
If we had our act together this schedule was ripe for going 8-4 or 9-3.
On the flip side, let’s not pretend our schedule has been some murderer’s row. We’ll end up playing 3 playoff teams so that’s tough. But we have lost games to 3-7 Florida and to a Mizzou team on its third string QB. Also Texas is way worse then people expected, they were preseason number 1 and will be playing in like the Music City Bowl…. Still lost to that team at home, and lost to a comparable Tennessee team at home too.
If we had our act together this schedule was ripe for going 8-4 or 9-3.
And don't forget that OM has the team they have after losing a QB who is already an NFL starter one season removed from Oxford.
It's very impressive.
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It's very impressive.
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This is 100% correct. I can't find a single word in this post that is not true.
At OU, they won with a QB half way back from injury and completely out of synch with the offense. Not even close to the same OU team that just beat Bama @ Bama. It was not the OM defense that won that game. No discussion there.
Watch the 4th quarter again in Athens. Kirby and team have played around with teams until the 4th quarter. 17 unanswered points and Ole Miss got ONE YARD. If you call that "nearly winning" then you must really enjoy WWE.
Ole Miss SoS is 11th out of 16 SEC teams. Arguably even lower than that with a much less than normal OU team.
Again, I don’t care. When you are basically averaging 10 wins a year since 2021 at a school that’s not a high level blue blood, it’s because you have built an extremely efficient and well oiled operation under this coach.
The biggest win was Florida at Oxford on Saturday. Let the record reflect that. It will show as they play in the playoff warm up games.
The apostrophe should have been at the end of the word in the phrase "murderers' row", but I guess you just want us to ignore that...**
They have a road win over a Top 10 Oklahoma team.
I think this OM team is too flawed to be a national title contender. But they are more than just a soft schedule. If they weren’t, they would have lost some of these games they’ve managed to pull out.
you can frame it that way, any team would... it is not true at all but I would try to sell that as well.
Agree w/that, def a soft schedule, most of their wins this season were just barely but that certainly shows improvement from Kiff & staff on coaching decisions and learning how to close the close games. Interesting that Lane is one of the best coaches in the whole history of their sports, yet he can’t commit to being the future of the program moving forward and it’s not about the money so says he……
I know I'm a pessimist when it comes to anything good for ole miss (FUCKEM), but I see a coach and team that got bailed out several times this year in one-score games by a lightly recruited 17'ing WINNER at QB who made plays when they needed it.
By the way, said winning QB was scheduled to ride the pine this year (his final season), because the greatest coach in college football missed that small fact and instead started the 5-star 17 year old press-clipping wunderkind, who didn't look all that great.
Simmons getting hurt early this season may have been the best thing to ever happen to Lane Kiffin's pocketbook and he had no choice about it.
I mean do you think them winning 49 games since 2021 is all about scheduling luck? This is just kinda the Kiffin formula there. They play in a ton of close games and they win the majority of them. Chalk it up to whatever you want to but it’s the most sustained success any program in the state has had in the modern era. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch it happen, but I can’t pretend it’s not happening.
Yep. All 49 Ole Miss wins over the last 5 years have been due to lucky scheduling.
No, just the one ranked SEC road win has been.
Hey miss delta reb, you seem like a nice lady, and I know it can get a little confusing because some posters here seem to favor ole miss or kiffin with their rhetoric, but I can assure you and the other cuntshits that no one on this here Mississippi State message board wants your opinion. Thank you for kindly getting bent and pissing off. No offense**
I give Kiffin a lot of credit for what he's done at Mississippi. But he got about as much luck fall his way with that QB as we've had in the last decade. All he wanted was a cheap emergency backup QB and he wound up with one of the best QBs in the conference. Just pure dumb luck.
I wonder what that dumb luck QB would look like if Lebby was calling plays for him behind the MSU O line?
Except that he’s one of the worst QB’s in the conference, talent-wise. He’s 23 years old, and nowhere near any NFL team’s draft radar even after this season he’s putting up right now. You put him at Mizzou or Auburn or Texas, and he’d look exactly like a dude from Ferris 17ing State.
In fact, the entire Ole Miss roster isn’t nearly as talented as people think. Currently their highest projected draft pick is Suntarine Perkins who is projected to be like a 4th round draft pick.
All of their success they are having is due to excellent coaching and a brilliant offensive system. All of it. It’s not luck, and it’s not scheduling. You trade Kentucky for Texas A&M and give them another loss….guess what, they are still in the playoff.
Halfway back from injury? Out of sync with the offense, you say? Well, the QB on the other side transferred from 17ing Ferris State, which should be an automatic disqualification from him ever being able to even hold an SEC clipboard. You’re absolutely right (but not in the way you thought you were)….no discussion needed.
Mateer isn’t even that good, and neither is the OU offense in general. He’s currently 40th in QBR nationally and has an 8/7 TD to INT ratio currently. And OU still scored 26 points which was tied for their 2nd most in SEC play up to this point. Whether or not he was 100% for the game is not super relevant.
How in the world did OU beat Bama. Surely the OU QB stat lines from the Ole Miss game and the Bama game are identical. You're right that the rhythm and timing of offense is irrelevant and you can just throw any QB in, half injured, that hasn't practiced and it won't matter. Got it thanks for the enlightenment.
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They beat them with great defense. They scored even less against Bama than they did against OM. Did you miss that little tidbit?
This whole discussion is absurd. You’re just trolling if you’re trying to discredit a road win over a Top 10 team because the Top 10 team’s best QB wasn’t 100%….all while ignoring that the road team has been playing with its 2nd / 3rd string QB all season.
Not sure your point? Meteer's stats against UMiss were a bit better than his stats against BAMA. OU's defense beat Bama, particularly with that 87 yard pick 6.
Was the 1st string OM really first? No. OM has one QB this season.
If you watched that game in Norman and felt Oklahoma was in sync then the discussion is over lol. Mateer was 17 for 31 and fumbled. And fumbled again that was ruled an incomplete pass. Their drives were like an engine out of tune.
Mateer was 15 of 23 at Bama and the offense had zero turnovers.
Some of you guys are idiots with blind bias. Even OM fans say they know they caught OU at a good time for their first and only ranked SEC road win. Wild work by some dufuses here truly.
I mean multiple things can be true. OM probably did catch OU at a good time but also Mateer isn’t some world beater even when healthy. Oklahoma’s strength is its defense.