bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - wrong again cuntryroads...
Wrong once again.
Wrong once again.
While it might stem from exactly what you say, I would also argue the concerns are in fact substantiated through Obama's body of work. Not everything he has done has been a clusterfvck, but enough evidence exists that you can't exactly trust the decision making and execution of his agendas either.
Even though I may or may not agree with any President, I do trust that they will make decisions that they believe will be for the best of the country. I disagreed mightily with many things Bush did but at no point did I ever say he is attempting to ruin the country on purpose. That is a huge difference on how I view myself and how I view your line of thinking and those like you.
Im pretty sure everyone realizes by now that you have an extremely high opinion of yourself.
Where in anything in my post did I say anything that would lead you to the conclusion of me thinking he is trying to ruin the country on purpose? I've never said it nor have I thought it. Keep on the offensive Bru, you'll get me one of these days.
You said you don't trust Obama based on his past performance and implied i can't either. Trust. Key word. I do trust that the President that he wants to do the best for the country. You don't. You said it, not me. If you meant something else, state it as such.
I trust that he wants to do what he "thinks" is best for the country. His judgement on what he "thinks" is best for the country and the execution of that judgement in carrying out action is what I question. I thought it was pretty clear and I also think the multitude of clusterfvcks he has had should make anyone want to take pause to fully analyze the situation. He used up all of his "trust" several screwups ago. Now it's trust but verify and to verify it takes time. I think something like this requires us to thoroughly understand how it's going to be implemented.
Thanks for the reasonable response. However, regardless how you are parsing your words, you simply are questioning Obama in his judgement as it pertains to what is best for the country. That is "trust" and your comments are conflicting. Again, I don't feel any President is going to intentionally harm the country. Things may not work out to how envisioned and that most certainly is open to criticism. And I have no problem with debate on the plan that is proposed. Lord knows I have problems with many proposed plans through the years put forth by Republicans and Democrats. But I have yet to see one President other than Nixon that has done something in office that has actually been intentional in terms of hurting the country. You disagree with me is perfectly fine with me.
I disagree with the notion that every president has lied. Lying and breaking campaign promises are not the same. I hope you are referring to breaking campaign promises.
Somebody else brought up the word "lie". Not me. Re-read my comment and it was about presidents intending to hurt the country.
We have a distinct difference in the comment Obama said on keeping your Health plan. Most Americans have kept their health plans. Some has decided to leave their plans as they became undesirable. Some of those instances were in direct conflict with the law. In my viewpoint, the discussion point you are attempting to make has taken on a life of its own (as many of the fake outrage you people do) and a lot of the facts are totally ignored.
Huh? I said in response to Neil that Clinton lied. Lying was not in my original point. You need to learn how to read before the knee jerking. You do it all the time and are wasting every other poster's time with pointless drivel.
Do you understand the english words of "intent" and "lie". It appears you don't.
I actually don't disagree with you as I agree no president intentionally does something that would knowingly harm the country. Again, my concern with Obama is that when he thinks something is right, he pushes it through on the quick. After it's passed, then we find out that we aren't getting what was advertised and even further, the implementation of said action is also wrought with failure in a lot of cases. For you to presume we should back anything and everything the President feels is best for the country is ludicrous.
Not my pposition at all. Never has been and I actually position myself directly opposite of that viewpoint and always will.
"I did not have sexual relations with that girl" while shaking his finger at the camera. Who was he lying to? Did he not commit perjury before a judge - with the world watching? Certainly had intent to deceive, and he was found guilty of such.
