Looks like we have our WR coach
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So what you are saying is that everyone on this board should never bash another program for hiring morally corrupt people to "win at all costs" because it ensures we will eventually start doing so ourselves???
I think this is more of a "if you want to wrestle with pigs you have to get in the slop" type of move and I fear that mentality. We have seen multiple times here and more recently at other programs like UL, Ole Miss and UNCheat that if a athletic department starts to accept that type of culture things can turn ugly fast.
I think this is more of a "if you want to wrestle with pigs you have to get in the slop" type of move and I fear that mentality. We have seen multiple times here and more recently at other programs like UL, Ole Miss and UNCheat that if a athletic department starts to accept that type of culture things can turn ugly fast.
You were addressed with a simple answer..."This is a seriously awful look for him"......You have to love this comment from a fan base that supports Pitino's ***** house to the scum bag Petrino....You're going to be concerned for the way something looks? Did Petrino make any splashes on his way out of coaching positions?
It's great how you question others but deny or over look things that reflect on your own program.
Actually, these were my first posts on the issue, composed more of questions than statements. I'm just curious is all. This doesn't worry me much at all, actually. Louisville appears to be in the middle of signing another excellent freshman class. Lord knows I'm high in the prospects going forward. I just think this entire affair looks messy as hell, lol.
Aside from whatever satisfaction your salaciousness gives you on such a regular basis, my question about Lamar was in how he will have damaged his reputation as a coach by making such an untimely switch on his way out the door...........when he could have waited 2 days without causing a small internet storm.............and the revelry which accompanies it at this end, which probably tells me all I need to know about where the leak came from. This is like 2 Yahtzees, lol.
"I just think this entire affair looks messy as hell, lol.".... again from someone who supports UL athletics to say something like this...LOL
Damaged reputation really? Again from a supporter of UL athletics raising a question about reputation...PURE GOLD!
I know no matter what any UL fan says on here its going to be met with ridicule and "sour grapes" comments...thats fine. Rivals typically don't use logic when discussing one another as hatred and passion get in the way of logical thinking. But if both sides could step back, take a breath and look at this from the outside there's not much here than what appears to be a UL coach who was unhappy with his place in the pecking order under Petrino.
Either Lamar wanted more responsibility and UL wouldn't give it, or he wanted a raise and UL wouldn't give it, or whatever....bottom line is that he wasn't happy at UL and I'm sure UL knew that. This also means that logically.....it would make sense that UL was aware that Lamar was looking around (he tried to join Richts staff at Miami but was brushed aside ironically for former UL WRs coach Ron Duggans) and UL did little to stop him or try and keep him. .UL allowed Thomas to leave as it appears from the UL side that they were expecting his departure but not until after NSD. I think both sides can probably logically assume that had UL given Lamar whatever it was he was looking to get then he would still be at Louisville...you don't look for another job if you're happy with your current job and you're only unhappy with your current job if you're not getting the respect you think you deserve and for whatever reason...You especially don't look for another job when your current job is set up to go through the most successful run of your short time there..UL didn't want to promote, pay or do whatever it was Lamar wanted. It doesn't take away from the hire or make this any different in any way....I just 100% do not buy the idea that UK went after a perfectly happy Lamar Thomas and convinced him to come to UK because it was being rumored for weeks that he was job hunting, the only surprise is the job he took.
Either Lamar wanted more responsibility and UL wouldn't give it, or he wanted a raise and UL wouldn't give it, or whatever....bottom line is that he wasn't happy at UL and I'm sure UL knew that. This also means that logically.....it would make sense that UL was aware that Lamar was looking around (he tried to join Richts staff at Miami but was brushed aside ironically for former UL WRs coach Ron Duggans) and UL did little to stop him or try and keep him. .UL allowed Thomas to leave as it appears from the UL side that they were expecting his departure but not until after NSD. I think both sides can probably logically assume that had UL given Lamar whatever it was he was looking to get then he would still be at Louisville...you don't look for another job if you're happy with your current job and you're only unhappy with your current job if you're not getting the respect you think you deserve and for whatever reason...You especially don't look for another job when your current job is set up to go through the most successful run of your short time there..UL didn't want to promote, pay or do whatever it was Lamar wanted. It doesn't take away from the hire or make this any different in any way....I just 100% do not buy the idea that UK went after a perfectly happy Lamar Thomas and convinced him to come to UK because it was being rumored for weeks that he was job hunting, the only surprise is the job he took.
I would highly doubt that Lamar Thomas had done anything to hurt his reputation as a coach. There are coaches who have done much, much worse and are still coaching. If you want an example, look no further than your own program (and even in 2 sports!)
It's business. Coaches leave for other jobs in a short period of time (your coach almost jumped ship to Auburn in the middle of the night years ago), recruits get scholarship offers taken away days before signing day, coaching circles just see these things as business decisions. Lamar Thomas went to a place that was going to pay him more money, it's a business decision.
"he wanted to stay at Louisville but coach Bobby P didn't wanna pay him more money. What I'm saying is that Lamar was essentially an overpaid recruiter"
Let's call it what it is. That's what you were trying to say, no need in beating around the bush.
Position coaches make more money at UK (roughly 75k more) so maybe there's that. Maybe he just wanted to leave Louisville. Ultimately, only Petrino and Lamar know. It's not because he wanted more responsibility, because UK is closing a deal with Tommy Mangino (was a WR coach under Mark Mangino, his father) as a QC assistant coach, and Lamar Thomas was the only WR coach on your staff last year.
Now, I know that it has become popular belief that a guy that has never been more than a high school QB that has drug issues on his record, has been coaching Louisville's wide receivers, but if that sounds realistic here, I don't think Kentucky fans are the ones that need to "step back" and "take a breath".
man is this spin control or what..bullcrap from butt hurt fans...to be expected from a fan base with a negative IQ..:cool2:
Or may be Bobby isn't the warm and fuzzy teddy bear ul fans want to pretend he is and people just honestly still dislike him. Lamar isn't the only coach to leave and Grantham has been trying to get out.
Senore 2006
Is this worse than your head coach leaving notes on lockers to tell him team he was QUITTING on then DURING the season? Seems to work out ok for bobby.
Is this worse than your head coach leaving notes on lockers to tell him team he was QUITTING on then DURING the season? Seems to work out ok for bobby.
So tell us where it falls on a Little Brother's messy measuring stick:
as messy as your head basketball coach plowing a ***** on a restaurant table, getting her pregnant, paying for her abortion, & getting a raise?
or as messy as your head football coach plowing a volleyball player, hiring her for a university job she was completely unqualified for, getting caught after wrecking his harley with her on the back?
or as messy as your basketball program having to pay for strippers and whores to entice high school recruits?
c'mon, give us some perspective here
Beating Lil Brother every year and having the scumbag flip us off is Christmas enough..
I like the hire from a player breakdown as much as knowing how Bob game plans. He might know player weakness that the staff tries really hard to hide.
We have to start winning that game. If he helps us in Miami that's awesome. If he's better than mainord at leading the group then we hit a home run. Hinshaw has already said how they are going to coach wr's so Lamar will have a plan in place for him and just has to teach and lead that group.
We have to start winning that game. If he helps us in Miami that's awesome. If he's better than mainord at leading the group then we hit a home run. Hinshaw has already said how they are going to coach wr's so Lamar will have a plan in place for him and just has to teach and lead that group.
Have to wonder why Senore is here too. For somebody to often insult the intelligence of Kentucky fans, and come here seeking answers is a tad bit contradictory.
To be objective, it is much less than that. We do not know whether Thomas was "unhappy." Football coaches change jobs for a lot of good reasons. It is expected. It does not have to mean ANYTHING about the team he leaves or the one he goes to. It is a career move that he may address, but need not have anything negative associated with it. Three years with one HC is a lot for a young coach and Thomas is still professionally young.
There's not much more a coach could do to tarnish their reputation than reside on a modern UL "Big Two" sport staff (there are teams like Auburn, UNC, and FSU that contest that). This is looking at the situation objectively.
Louisville programs have: extortion, abortion, adultery, human trafficking, paying recruits, drug charges, misuse of funds, and media appropriation. The last two in that list are less objective, but a case could nonetheless be argued and backed up with evidence.
That's just my two cents on it. I personally hold no hatred towards UL athletics, but the modern department ever since UL moved from AAC to ACC has progressively made a reputation as a win-at-all-costs program.
Now, is everyone who goes through UL a bad guy? No. However, the overall department starting with Jurich and trickling down to GA's and even in some cases, players, has become tainted from an objective standpoint and this begins to infect the subjective reputations of people who work within the athletics department. Whether justly or unjustly, this happens.
Like someone who is tried for association with a major felony but is not guilty: there may not be prison time, but you can expect a potential employer to ask about it.
I'm not saying Lamar is a perfectly clean individual aside from any unsubstantiated subjectivity from coaching on Louisville's staff. What I am saying, however, is if we only employed completely clean coaches, we'd run out and have to hire middle schoolers.
Again, that's me trying to look at it objectively.
Louisville programs have: extortion, abortion, adultery, human trafficking, paying recruits, drug charges, misuse of funds, and media appropriation. The last two in that list are less objective, but a case could nonetheless be argued and backed up with evidence.
That's just my two cents on it. I personally hold no hatred towards UL athletics, but the modern department ever since UL moved from AAC to ACC has progressively made a reputation as a win-at-all-costs program.
Now, is everyone who goes through UL a bad guy? No. However, the overall department starting with Jurich and trickling down to GA's and even in some cases, players, has become tainted from an objective standpoint and this begins to infect the subjective reputations of people who work within the athletics department. Whether justly or unjustly, this happens.
Like someone who is tried for association with a major felony but is not guilty: there may not be prison time, but you can expect a potential employer to ask about it.
I'm not saying Lamar is a perfectly clean individual aside from any unsubstantiated subjectivity from coaching on Louisville's staff. What I am saying, however, is if we only employed completely clean coaches, we'd run out and have to hire middle schoolers.
Again, that's me trying to look at it objectively.
So ..this is your third coach to leave since the end of the season for THE SEC...do you not think that leaving to coach in the best conference in the country may have played a big part in this?
And you didn't even get into the on-going federal investigation(s) on the administrative and academic sides of the house: http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...s-fbi-investigating-3-u-l-officials/76952110/
Yeah, Thomas has sure hurt his reputation... But, if you think about it, he has probably helped his reputation by fleeing that scum-riddled morally-depraved swill-hole...
Even the UofL fans surely could admit the juxtaposition here is funny - comparing the litany of UofL embarrassments against UK leaking a coaching hire and saying the latter is worse....
to be fair they are probably high on the "snitches get stitches" side of morality. and when senore said he was high on the ul freshmen he probably meant he'll get high with the ul freshmen.
First off, I don't know why Senore is allowed to post here, if you go to there boards any at all, he is always downing Cal and anything UK. Most of the UL posters I can handle alright, there UL fans, no harm. Senore has no respect.
My take is Lamar was receptive to a job offer because of more money and like someone else posted, he was tired of babysitting Petrino 2.0.
My take is Lamar was receptive to a job offer because of more money and like someone else posted, he was tired of babysitting Petrino 2.0.
Pick any post of mine and I'll be glad to defend my opinion.
The only one I was really off on was predicting a struggle finding a solid OC this year which I admitted half way through the thread that I did not consider guaranteed money contracts in my thinking.
According to CardinalJim (lol), Thomas, the guy who coached at WKU with BP and came with BP to UL, who recruited super star Lamar Jackson and who just finished his 3rd year with BP was a poor fit and was on his way out, anyway.
Yea just took a look....dam Lamar Thomas was hated by tard fans who knew he was such a horrible coach and person.
spin keeps getting dumber & dumber. UK realized our offensive playcalling wasnt working, Stoops fired Dawson. As a part of that the receivers were under performing, fired Mainord. did both of this back in December. we've hired replacements.
nice of them to be running a charity outfit though unlike us. Thomas was awful at any aspect of his job, but they kept him around & kept paying him anyway. For 2 years! Navar only got less than a year before he had to pack his bags.
nice of them to be running a charity outfit though unlike us. Thomas was awful at any aspect of his job, but they kept him around & kept paying him anyway. For 2 years! Navar only got less than a year before he had to pack his bags.
When Terrell Buckley was leaving a little while back, Whacker on the Scout UL board posted this:
"I would like to see him stay, but I had heard around Thanksgiving both he and Thomas might decide to look elsewhere. I haven't heard any rumblings since about Thomas, though."
"I would like to see him stay, but I had heard around Thanksgiving both he and Thomas might decide to look elsewhere. I haven't heard any rumblings since about Thomas, though."
Crazy thing is, you actually believe this. You have basketball. We have football. That's the way it is my friend.
Who said anything about being limited to one sport? I specifically replied to the text I quoted. Can you not understand what I was saying in response? It's pretty clear UK doesn't own Louisville in every sport as quoted above is my only thing. Nonetheless to answer your question it is currently a school known more for basketball than football yet we are trending upward in football.
I respectfully disagree. Many coaches would consider a move from an upjumped midmajor (commuter school) to a flagship, land grant school in the SEC. It's a step up.