Looks like we have our WR coach

Mr Schwump

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Who said anything about being limited to one sport? I specifically replied to the text I quoted. Can you not understand what I was saying in response? It's pretty clear UK doesn't own Louisville in every sport as quoted above is my only thing. Nonetheless to answer your question it is currently a school known more for basketball than football yet we are trending upward in football.

Trending upward? In whose mind other than your own? You might want to drop Bama, Ohio St, Michigan, etc a note informing them you're a major football power now. Doubt it's occurred to them.
 

CardfbFanatic06

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Trending upward? In whose mind other than your own? You might want to drop Bama, Ohio St, Michigan, etc a note informing them you're a major football power now. Doubt it's occurred to them.

Man, so many assumptions in just two responses from you. In the original reply I was replying to the comment of being superior in every sport. I don't agree with that, specifically as it relates to football. Basketball? Sure.

In the last post it is very evident that the school is trending upward in football. Hell they almost gave up football in the late 80s. I simply said the school is trending upward and that's impossible to argue against. No one said anything about being on par with Bama, OSU, and Michigan at this time. Well no one except you.
 

CardfbFanatic06

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No sir, the crazy thing is you believe that nonsense.

How so??? So what if I told you we own basketball right now despite being 1-8 or even the record before that? Would you honestly believe that? Would that not look crazy? Some of you guys won't be satisfied until you prove you are better than Louisville at every little thing to include winning chess matches. I conceded that you guys own basketball against us, but we own football and have since the modern series. I don't see how it is even debatable right now. Doesn't mean it can't change, but I can only go off of the modern Governer's Cup series which has been around for quite some time now.
 

BigBlueCatNation

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How so??? So what if I told you we own basketball right now despite being 1-8 or even the record before that? Would you honestly believe that? Would that not look crazy? Some of you guys won't be satisfied until you prove you are better than Louisville at every little thing to include winning chess matches. I conceded that you guys own basketball against us, but we own football and have since the modern series. I don't see how it is even debatable right now. Doesn't mean it can't change, but I can only go off of the modern Governer's Cup series which has been around for quite some time now.

All valid points, but records don't tell the entire story. Besides, that doesn't mean you SHOULD be winning those games. I've always said shame on Kentucky for letting that happen by not caring about football. Good for Louisville for taking advantage of a situation that Kentucky has neglected for decades. Kentucky has better facilities in every single sport, many, MANY more fans, much better sports conference and makes much more money than Louisville.

There is no excuse for Kentucky to not totally dominate this series against Louisville like they do in baseball, basketball and every other sport that matters. In every sport but football, the series records are laughable, at best. Now that it seems like Kentucky is FINALLY taking football seriously, the football series will start being lopsided in Kentucky's favor soon.
 

un4getables

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Rhavicc...you may be a little right, but I'm sorry I am just not big on the leadership of this program right now and I hope I turn out to be completely wrong and I will be happy yo eat all the crow I need to eat. The recruiting is going great, but until we see the results with the leadership on the sidelines I will remain skeptical all the whIle being at the games cheering my head off


You don't know what you are talking about and I am sure your would LOVE to have your buddy JOKEr back.. Because I am sure you LOVED his management of the football program..

Your pathetic.... What exactly has this coaching staff done? If there were weak spots He has fixed them he has brought in more talent than this program has ever seen consistently in the last 20 years if not longer. He had a Grand Canyon sized hole to fix when he got here and I guess you expected him to fix within the first three years with nothing but Freshman... Yeah that is realistic... :rolleyes:
 
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WildcatofNati

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The coach in question announced after it was already leaked, so blaming him for that is not fair, unless he was the person who leaked it in the first place, which is unlikely. As for who did leak it, I have no idea and honestly don't care. Moreover, it's hardly a grand internet tsunami. Outside of UK and Louisville message boards, it's more like a splash from a rain puddle. Somehow I suspect Alabama and Ohio St. and USC fans are not exactly watching these developments like hawks.

But you mention timing in your post, and the timing that interests me is the timing of a sudden flurry of posts from UofLoL fans claiming that Thomas wasn't really the receivers coach at Louisville. It's interesting how all of these football scholars failed to share that knowledge until after that preposterous tweet from Demling. It's odd how the tenor went from outrage to feigned nonchalance shorter after the tweet from Demling. How is that so few of your fans knew that Petrino was the actual receivers coach until Demling told them so?
This story is certainly a grand internet tsunami on the national Rivals football board. A thread was started, and it has 0 replies. Meanwhile, by way of comparison, a thread about eating crawfish currently has 154 replies.
 

un4getables

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I know no matter what any UL fan says on here its going to be met with ridicule and "sour grapes" comments...thats fine. Rivals typically don't use logic when discussing one another as hatred and passion get in the way of logical thinking. But if both sides could step back, take a breath and look at this from the outside there's not much here than what appears to be a UL coach who was unhappy with his place in the pecking order under Petrino.

Either Lamar wanted more responsibility and UL wouldn't give it, or he wanted a raise and UL wouldn't give it, or whatever....bottom line is that he wasn't happy at UL and I'm sure UL knew that. This also means that logically.....it would make sense that UL was aware that Lamar was looking around (he tried to join Richts staff at Miami but was brushed aside ironically for former UL WRs coach Ron Duggans) and UL did little to stop him or try and keep him. .UL allowed Thomas to leave as it appears from the UL side that they were expecting his departure but not until after NSD. I think both sides can probably logically assume that had UL given Lamar whatever it was he was looking to get then he would still be at Louisville...you don't look for another job if you're happy with your current job and you're only unhappy with your current job if you're not getting the respect you think you deserve and for whatever reason...You especially don't look for another job when your current job is set up to go through the most successful run of your short time there..UL didn't want to promote, pay or do whatever it was Lamar wanted. It doesn't take away from the hire or make this any different in any way....I just 100% do not buy the idea that UK went after a perfectly happy Lamar Thomas and convinced him to come to UK because it was being rumored for weeks that he was job hunting, the only surprise is the job he took.

So you a good Friend of Lamar ? I am assuming since you know he wanted the Miami job but he was "Brushed" aside. I think it would do you and the rest of your pathetic fan base justice and read what Coach Lamar had to say why he joined the UK Staff
 

kykats

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There's not much more a coach could do to tarnish their reputation than reside on a modern UL "Big Two" sport staff (there are teams like Auburn, UNC, and FSU that contest that). This is looking at the situation objectively.

Louisville programs have: extortion, abortion, adultery, human trafficking, paying recruits, drug charges, misuse of funds, and media appropriation. The last two in that list are less objective, but a case could nonetheless be argued and backed up with evidence.


That's just my two cents on it. I personally hold no hatred towards UL athletics, but the modern department ever since UL moved from AAC to ACC has progressively made a reputation as a win-at-all-costs program.

Now, is everyone who goes through UL a bad guy? No. However, the overall department starting with Jurich and trickling down to GA's and even in some cases, players, has become tainted from an objective standpoint and this begins to infect the subjective reputations of people who work within the athletics department. Whether justly or unjustly, this happens.

Like someone who is tried for association with a major felony but is not guilty: there may not be prison time, but you can expect a potential employer to ask about it.

I'm not saying Lamar is a perfectly clean individual aside from any unsubstantiated subjectivity from coaching on Louisville's staff. What I am saying, however, is if we only employed completely clean coaches, we'd run out and have to hire middle schoolers.

Again, that's me trying to look at it objectively.
don't forget the cheerleader found dead in UL fb players room. What ever happened with that anyway?
 

Beatle Bum

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How so??? So what if I told you we own basketball right now despite being 1-8 or even the record before that? Would you honestly believe that? Would that not look crazy? Some of you guys won't be satisfied until you prove you are better than Louisville at every little thing to include winning chess matches. I conceded that you guys own basketball against us, but we own football and have since the modern series. I don't see how it is even debatable right now. Doesn't mean it can't change, but I can only go off of the modern Governer's Cup series which has been around for quite some time now.

When is the chess match! I am there!
 

un4getables

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So still not answering the why now?

What does it really Matter? You are not going to lose any of your recruits. Its a dead period we have Junior day coming up this weekend and we wanted it announced so 2017 recruits can make plans to come this weekend. maybe he has some 2017 guys to come up who knows. But really what does it matter and why are you asking are you insinuating something? Cmon Senior man tell us your great wisdom... I know that can't be true since Wisdom and UofL fan don't go together
 
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Why does it matter when he announced it? Apparently he wasn't the lead recruiter on any recruit and wasn't even coaching the WR. Sounds like he was just hanging around and getting paid. According to Jody Demling...
 

Beatle Bum

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Does not matter. Should he have waited until after the dead period or after signing day? No. Silly Cards.

And, if he was searching for a job and was told he needed to move on after not coaching WRs or recruiting crap for the Cards, why would Card fans care?
 

Dr. Faustus

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Does not matter. Should he have waited until after the dead period or after signing day? No. Silly Cards.

And, if he was searching for a job and was told he needed to move on after not coaching WRs or recruiting crap for the Cards, why would Card fans care?
They only care because he left to join Kentucky and it sticks in their collective craws. We would never be so small!
 

Beatle Bum

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They only care because he left to join Kentucky and it sticks in their collective craws. We would never be so small!

I believe it does eat at Card fans knowing that they lost a coach right before signing day to a staff that has already demonstrated UK has better recruiters. Relationships for 2017 have been lost with the departure of three coaches and one now lost to a staff that is out-recruiting the UL staff. This after UL lost numerous recruits to bigger schools and UK has held it higher ranked class together. Ouch. That must sting. So much that UL fans would exaggerate, make things up and disguise themselves to hide their shame and embarrassment. Yikes! I hope we are never like that!!

Did they lose ALL of their coaches to SEC schools?
 

Dr. Faustus

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Did they lose ALL of their coaches to SEC schools?
Dont know - don't care. I only care who Kentucky hires. On the surface I understand why - it checks off several boxes. Experienced coach who was an all pro at a position that we have the talent to be really good at but have not achieved up to their ability. Ties to South FLA, an important area of the recruiting country that we've not had a sustained presence. But in the attempts to gain those things, we run the risk of broaching the line that we have rightfully ridiculed Loserville for these past 10 years. There's other coaches that can check off those boxes - we didn't need this guy.
 

Beatle Bum

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You created an account to claim you care in numerous posts. We get your point. This guy is good enough for UL, not UK. We get your first day message.
 

sluggercatfan

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You don't know what you are talking about and I am sure your would LOVE to have your buddy JOKEr back.. Because I am sure you LOVED his management of the football program..

Your pathetic.... What exactly has this coaching staff done? If there were weak spots He has fixed them he has brought in more talent than this program has ever seen consistently in the last 20 years if not longer. He had a Grand Canyon sized hole to fix when he got here and I guess you expected him to fix within the first three years with nothing but Freshman... Yeah that is realistic... :rolleyes:
And you sir are an idiot!!!!...I was one of those that boycotted midway thru the second season of Joker and wouldn't even give my tickets away because I didn't want any butts in my seats..the third year I didn't even purchase tickets--after 30+yrs--and the day MS was hired I was back on board and was there in Nutter when he was introduced so you don't have a damn clue about me..If you can't see that MS is in over his head just like Joker was then that is on you...with that being said I hope I have to eat crow and I personally hope he has made the right decisions on this staff that will carry him thru his deficiencies as a head coach..
 

CardfbFanatic06

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All valid points, but records don't tell the entire story. Besides, that doesn't mean you SHOULD be winning those games. I've always said shame on Kentucky for letting that happen by not caring about football. Good for Louisville for taking advantage of a situation that Kentucky has neglected for decades. Kentucky has better facilities in every single sport, many, MANY more fans, much better sports conference and makes much more money than Louisville.

There is no excuse for Kentucky to not totally dominate this series against Louisville like they do in baseball, basketball and every other sport that matters. In every sport but football, the series records are laughable, at best. Now that it seems like Kentucky is FINALLY taking football seriously, the football series will start being lopsided in Kentucky's favor soon.

Ok I at least understand what you mean now. I guess we shall see how it plays out.
 

KendallCat

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We're a baseball school now. So no one bothered addressing the timing? Anyone? Why would an assistant coach at a P5 school announce he was going to leave a team the day before NSD, fully cognizant that the entire affair would become this grand internet tsunammi? I mean, was there doubt over that, lol? That UK fans would declare a Yahtzee Apocalypse?

It honestly doesn't bother me much what anyone's opinion is of me or Petrino or even your old Hero Rick - I am only partially trolling for a few laughs, and it intrigues me to see if anyone here considers this football thing a game and not somehow intimate with their own self-worth. If I fail at that, I'll take a ban, no problem.

Since he did not coach WR's as card fans stated repeatedly why do you care when he leaves. It is like the jilted wife saying how could you leave me during the holidays - would you rather they wait until spring and do the same thing. End result is the same - he is gone.

What is hypocritical is a U of L troll coming on our board and trying to discuss ethics and morals and values. You do realize that your athletic program has become and is a cesspool filled with coaches with known checkered pasts, and is seen as probably the dirtiest in all of college sports?

* You have a basketball coach who has been cheating on his wife repeatedly and to the point where he gets caught on a restaurant table with an assistant coach keeping watch. After he pays for the abortion the same watchdog assistant marries her, and he is rewarded with a new contract.

* You hire back a football coach with a past that includes secretly meeting with his old boss at Auburn's AD secretly while still employed and lying about. Then bolts for the NFL where he leaves the team in the middle of the first season by leaving a note and sneaking off. He then leaves Arkansas because he cannot drive a motorcycle with a coed and her fiancée hanging on to his back and neck while driving.

* Your AD has repeatedly allowed players with criminal backgrounds to join U of L creating an atmosphere that is giving U of L a rep as a school for thugs nationally.

* Former VB coach turned asst AD is used and loses for harassment and conduct to others.

* And the crown jewel is the turning Minardi hall into a brothel where strippers have sex with recruits and under age kids plus their dad's, and Pitino is banned from discussing it because he was trying to intimidate witnesses according to the NCAA. Of course he was caught lying about it saying never happened, then I cannot believe Andre would do this since I have taught him so well, to something happened but I did not know. Guess what Rick - you are still culpable and responsible despite trying to play the "I did not know card."

You support a program that does all of this and your main concern is the timing? Maybe if you had someone with character working anywhere at U of L from Ramsey to Jurich to Pitino to Petrino to Hurtt you would not constantly have these black eyes within your program. The only "timing" you need to worry about is when the NCAA nails your BB program for violations.
 

Dr. Faustus

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You created an account to claim you care in numerous posts. We get your point. This guy is good enough for UL, not UK. We get your first day message.
1. You don't speak for the board - much less the fan base. Plenty of Kentucky fans agree with me that this was a questionable hire - if you think differently well, you are entitled to your opinion as I am with mine. That said, everyone had a first day here because they had an opinion they wanted to express - including you, "the smartest guy in the room".
2. I said nothing about whether he was good enough for Loserville, I simply said he was a guy that doesn't bring enough to the table to deal with his past.
 

DACats86

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1. You don't speak for the board - much less the fan base. Plenty of Kentucky fans agree with me that this was a questionable hire - if you think differently well, you are entitled to your opinion as I am with mine. That said, everyone had a first day here because they had an opinion they wanted to express - including you, "the smartest guy in the room".
2. I said nothing about whether he was good enough for Loserville, I simply said he was a guy that doesn't bring enough to the table to deal with his past.
Whores.
 

CatDaddy4daWin

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1. You don't speak for the board - much less the fan base. Plenty of Kentucky fans agree with me that this was a questionable hire - if you think differently well, you are entitled to your opinion as I am with mine. That said, everyone had a first day here because they had an opinion they wanted to express - including you, "the smartest guy in the room".
2. I said nothing about whether he was good enough for Loserville, I simply said he was a guy that doesn't bring enough to the table to deal with his past.
deal with something that happened 20 years ago? Seems like you and UL fans are the only ones bringing that up...huh wonder why?

Seems like he and UK are dealing with his past just fine. I guess UL is the only program allowed to give 2nd chances. UK just happens to wait for 20 years to lapse, not pick up guys from jail and call them 'reformed'.
 

Dr. Faustus

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deal with something that happened 20 years ago? Seems like you and UL fans are the only ones bringing that up...huh wonder why?

Seems like he and UK are dealing with his past just fine. I guess UL is the only program allowed to give 2nd chances. UK just happens to wait for 20 years to lapse, not pick up guys from jail and call them 'reformed'.
Do you even read what you type? Loserville is THE 2nd chance place - not Kentucky. Now you want to split hairs on time frames? You either employ / recruit questionable guys or you don't - simple as that.
 

DACats86

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Do you even read what you type? Loserville is THE 2nd chance place - not Kentucky. Now you want to split hairs on time frames? You either employ / recruit questionable guys or you don't - simple as that.
UofL = whores.
 

Beatle Bum

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1. You don't speak for the board - much less the fan base. Plenty of Kentucky fans agree with me that this was a questionable hire - if you think differently well, you are entitled to your opinion as I am with mine. That said, everyone had a first day here because they had an opinion they wanted to express - including you, "the smartest guy in the room".
2. I said nothing about whether he was good enough for Loserville, I simply said he was a guy that doesn't bring enough to the table to deal with his past.

(1) actually, I was voted "most likely to speak for the board." To accept, I am stepping down from "the smartest guy in the room."
(2) everyone had their first 20 posts, but few people used their first 20 to post the same thing 20 times.
(3) when you never complained about his 3 previous coaching jobs, it was implicit that you thought he was good for thugs and lesser programs.
(4) Bonus: a statute of limitations is a criminal term. As is double jeopardy. I think the law dealt with Thomas over 15 years ago. That said, the allegations are ugly. You should voice your concerns to coach Stoops if you think them still relevant. Or, type 20 more identical posts to your first 23.
 
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DACats86

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(1) actually, I was voted "most likely to speak for the board." To accept, I am stepping down from "the smartest guy in the room."
(2) everyone had their first 20 posts, but few people used their first 20 to post the same thing 20 times.
(3) when you never complained about his 3 previous coaching jobs, it was inplicit that you thought he was good for thugs and lesser programs.
(4) Bonus: a statute of limitations is a criminal term. As is double jeopardy. I think the law dealt with Thomas over 15 years ago. That said, the allegations are ugly. You should voice your concerns to coach Stoops if you think them still relevant. Or, type 20 more identical posts to your first 23.
Or go back to your board and quit pretending to be something you are not. And, whores.
 

Dr. Faustus

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(1) actually, I was voted "most likely to speak for the board." To accept, I am stepping down from "the smartest guy in the room."
(2) everyone had their first 20 posts, but few people used their first 20 to post the same thing 20 times.
(3) when you never complained about his 3 previous coaching jobs, it was implicit that you thought he was good for thugs and lesser programs.
(4) Bonus: a statute of limitations is a criminal term. As is double jeopardy. I think the law dealt with Thomas over 15 years ago. That said, the allegations are ugly. You should voice your concerns to coach Stoops if you think them still relevant. Or, type 20 more identical posts to your first 23.
Why would I complain about his previous coaching jobs - other than an ancillary dislike for him as part of a reprehensible Miami program, the guy never made my radar screen in any meaningful way. Certainly not enough to form an opinion on. But then the program that I support hired him and allowed Tard fans to run their mouths that we were hypocrites.

You're right double jeopardy is a legal term - you don't see me calling for arrested again - just not hired by UK. And if you don't mind, and even if you do, I'll continue to express my opinion anytime I see fit. You haven't heard me complain about the never ending circular arguments that you have with that one Tard fan - pubic enema.
 

Beatle Bum

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Why would I complain about his previous coaching jobs - other than an ancillary dislike for him as part of a reprehensible Miami program, the guy never made my radar screen in any meaningful way. Certainly not enough to form an opinion on. But then the program that I support hired him and allowed Tard fans to run their mouths that we were hypocrites.

You're right double jeopardy is a legal term - you don't see me calling for arrested again - just not hired by UK.

Nope, just saw you reference a statute of limitations. It was a misplaced use of the phrase.
 

BigBluePhantom

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Why would I complain about his previous coaching jobs - other than an ancillary dislike for him as part of a reprehensible Miami program, the guy never made my radar screen in any meaningful way. Certainly not enough to form an opinion on. But then the program that I support hired him and allowed Tard fans to run their mouths that we were hypocrites.

You're right double jeopardy is a legal term - you don't see me calling for arrested again - just not hired by UK. And if you don't mind, and even if you do, I'll continue to express my opinion anytime I see fit. You haven't heard me complain about the never ending circular arguments that you have with that one Tard fan - pubic enema.

I think Caveman does speak for the majority of the board when he says that we are tired of your rant. You seem to be one who is under the impression that whomever is the loudest or says it the most times is right. You stated your opinion and it had merit. Then, you stated it again and again and again and that was just superfluous dribble. Just like people who don't know when to shut up in a public place, you have the right to make an azz of yourself. Like I usually do when I encounter those people, I just shook my head every time I ran across one of your many posts saying the same thing. Well, enough is enough, I do speak for the board when I say that you have worn out your welcome. If you would like to contribute something new, by all means do so. However, if you have nothing new to add, please spare us all and just STFU.
 
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