Lots of Jim Knowles rumblings on X right now…

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This feels like an awful negotiating tactic. Knowles opts to stay at OSU for big $. PSU’s next target demands Knowles level money.

We’re likely getting played by T™️osu. On the other hand, few, if any others that Franklin will consider have Knowles’ credentials. So, PSU likely won’t have to worry about setting a precedent.
 

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We’re likely getting played by T™️osu. On the other hand, few, if any others that Franklin will consider have Knowles’ credentials. So, PSU likely won’t have to worry about setting a precedent.
Is this the equivalent of Allar going through his progressions with 40 seconds to play, tie game, and then throwing over the middle at Evans' feet?
 

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Rumor is 3.2M offer as already posted, plus we'd cover the buyout which I think is another 1.2M. It seem PSU is spending the playoff money they just got and ready to compete with the big programs for the big names.

Dumb if true IMO. Promote one of our guys - maybe get more than a year out of him? Knowles had one of the best rosters in the game to work with. Ask Saban how much that matters (and how little his coordinators mattered). Pass.
 

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Dumb if true IMO. Promote one of our guys - maybe get more than a year out of him? Knowles had one of the best rosters in the game to work with. Ask Saban how much that matters (and how little his coordinators mattered). Pass.
This is really poor precedent by Franklin especially when head football coaches, like CEO's, should be focused on not only winning games but also "organizational health". Development of players and their coaches is paramount. Hiring/portalling externally versus developing and promoting from within leads to internal complacency amongst players and assistant coaches.

At this point, even if Franklin awards the DC position to Poindexter or someone else, they will accept it knowing that Franklin preferred many other candidates. And the players will notice this also.

Way to go James....you can't help yourself. You could F up a one car funeral.
 
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This is really poor precedent by Franklin especially when head football coaches, like CEO's, should be focused on not only winning games but also "organizational health". Development of players and their coaches is paramount. Hiring/portalling externally versus developing and promoting from within leads to internal complacency amongst players and assistant coaches.

At this point, even if Franklin awards the DC position to Poindexter or someone else, they will accept it knowing that Franklin preferred someone else. And the players will notice this also.

Way to go James....you can't help yourself. You could F up a one car funeral.
So Franklin’s supposed to pick somebody who would be his 3rd or 4th choice possibly?
This may be the dumbest thing written on this board in a long time - and that’s saying something.
 

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This all out pursuit of Knowles is a clear indication that Franklin is doing everything to win it all in 2025 because offering $3.2 million to a DC that won't be here more than a year or two doesn't make any sense otherwise.
I disagree. To be the best part of the battle is having the best coaches. If that requires setting the market for Assistant coach salaries then do be it. I'd rather this scenario than being cheap or broke and settling.
 

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Dumb if true IMO. Promote one of our guys - maybe get more than a year out of him? Knowles had one of the best rosters in the game to work with. Ask Saban how much that matters (and how little his coordinators mattered). Pass.
Nick Saban is likely the greatest college coach of all time. He probably doesn't need great coordinators. James Franklin absolutely needs great coordinators. Knowles was a really good DC at Ok St when his players weren't as good as OSU.
 
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Nick Saban is likely the greatest college coach of all time. He probably doesn't need great coordinators. James Franklin absolutely needs great coordinators. Knowles was a really good DC at Ok St when his players weren't as good as OSU.

Guess who else was a really good coordinator at Ok St.?

The question here shouldn't be 'Why settle for your second or third choice?' but rather, 'Why is Knowles #1?' He just won a NC? That was Jeremiah Smith and the offense fellas.
 

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So Franklin’s supposed to pick somebody who would be his 3rd or 4th choice possibly?
This may be the dumbest thing written on this board in a long time - and that’s saying something.
I can already decipher that you've never led a large organization or even 2-3 co-workers.
 

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Guess who else was a really good coordinator at Ok St.?

The question here shouldn't be 'Why settle for your second or third choice?' but rather, 'Why is Knowles #1?' He just won a NC? That was Jeremiah Smith and the offense fellas.

I already said that Knowles should bring the players with him. For $3.2 MM plus the buyout, that is not only reasonable, but should be expected. For f*ck’s sake.
 

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Nick Saban is likely the greatest college coach of all time. He probably doesn't need great coordinators. James Franklin absolutely needs great coordinators. Knowles was a really good DC at Ok St when his players weren't as good as OSU.

I assume you meant to write Nick Saban is likely the greatest college football coach of all time. If this is what you meant, I agree.
 

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We’re likely getting played by T™️osu. On the other hand, few, if any others that Franklin will consider have Knowles’ credentials. So, PSU likely won’t have to worry about setting a precedent.
What exactly are the credentials?
 

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This all out pursuit of Knowles is a clear indication that Franklin is doing everything to win it all in 2025 because offering $3.2 million to a DC that won't be here more than a year or two doesn't make any sense otherwise.
Would not going all out include recruiting/NILing a Division 1 WR…or 5?
 

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I assume you meant to write Nick Saban is likely the greatest college football coach of all time. If this is what you meant, I agree.

Hard to argue with success, but he's successful in a way that you would be if you could pick your own hand in poker. His worst ranked class since 2018 was 5th; he finished first or second every other time. Go back further and it's the same; Bama is an F1 car racing bumper cars.
 

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This is really poor precedent by Franklin especially when head football coaches, like CEO's, should be focused on not only winning games but also "organizational health". Development of players and their coaches is paramount. Hiring/portalling externally versus developing and promoting from within leads to internal complacency amongst players and assistant coaches.

At this point, even if Franklin awards the DC position to Poindexter or someone else, they will accept it knowing that Franklin preferred many other candidates. And the players will notice this also.

Way to go James....you can't help yourself. You could F up a one car funeral.
What a clown post. YOU are the one who can’t help himself.
 

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Andy Kotelnicki looking at his $1.8mm salary....

 

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Guess who else was a really good coordinator at Ok St.?

The question here shouldn't be 'Why settle for your second or third choice?' but rather, 'Why is Knowles #1?' He just won a NC? That was Jeremiah Smith and the offense fellas.
Texas had 1st and goal at the 1 to tie the game. They were driven backwards until they fumbled the game away on 4th down.

Similar situation as psu vs osu when they stopped us on the goalline. The osu defense was every bit as responsible for that championship.

Coordinators matter
 

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Nick Saban is likely the greatest college coach of all time. He probably doesn't need great coordinators. James Franklin absolutely needs great coordinators. Knowles was a really good DC at Ok St when his players weren't as good as OSU.
I think Joe was the greatest when you factor in doing it the right way and his impact on humanity at large on a global level. There will never be another JVP which is why the BoT needs to honor him the right way
 

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I assume you meant to write Nick Saban is likely the greatest college football coach of all time. If this is what you meant, I agree.
I'd certainly put Saban up there with Coach K and Wooden if we wanted to look across sports.
 

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I'd certainly put Saban up there with Coach K and Wooden if we wanted to look across sports.

If we are talking about major men‘s sports programs, no one comes close to the legendary John Wooden and his 10 NCAA National Championships. Wooden’s achievements are simply incomparable in my opinion.

Saban, Krzyzewski, Paterno, Bryant, and others may be candidates for 2nd greatest.
 
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If we are talking about major men‘s sports programs, no one comes close to the legendary John Wooden and his 10 NCAA National Championships. Wooden’s achievements are simply incomparable in my opinion.

Saban, Krzyzewski, Paterno, Bryant, and others may be candidates for 2nd greatest.
It’s where it gets tough comparing across time periods. Plus lots of smoke around the paying of players (even more so than Saban). But he certainly dominated during their run.
 

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If we are talking about major men‘s sports programs, no one comes close to the legendary John Wooden and his 10 NCAA National Championships. Wooden’s achievements are simply incomparable in my opinion.

Saban, Krzyzewski, Paterno, Bryant, and others may be candidates for 2nd greatest.
Cael Sanderson says hello.
 

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He's not there yet. He needs 5 more Natty's to pass Dan Gable.

It can be done.

It will be done and then some. Cael knew exactly what he wanted to do when he came to PSU and it's rich recruiting territory. He wanted to build the greatest wrestling dynasty that ever existed.
 

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It will be done and then some. Cael knew exactly what he wanted to do when he came to PSU and its rich recruiting territory. He wanted to build the greatest wrestling dynasty that ever existed.

And he’s only 45. He could kick the world’s a$$ for a lot more years.
 
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