Louisville has to go 13-0 to make the playoffs.
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IDK..... I think 12-1 with ACC championship would get us in.
One thing this season has proven is that you do get punished for weak OOC schedule. Ours needs an upgrade. No more Charlottes. Our OOC has to be good because the bottom of our division in the ACC really drags down our SOS.
Starting with Purdue next year is an upgrade over Charlotte.
Year after that is Bama.
One thing this season has proven is that you do get punished for weak OOC schedule. Ours needs an upgrade. No more Charlottes. Our OOC has to be good because the bottom of our division in the ACC really drags down our SOS.
Starting with Purdue next year is an upgrade over Charlotte.
Year after that is Bama.
I think they are looking primarily of 2 things, wins against ranked opponents and losses to unranked opponents.
I don't agree at all with the point on not playing anyone OOC. If you truly get punished Washington would not be in the final four. We were ranked 5th before we lost to Houston and UK. Our season came down to us losing and failing to execute the last half of the season. Plus Ohio state has wins against Oklahoma, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Not sure who you would put in over them?
Our out of conference schedule next year is trash. If we hope to make playoffs next year we have to 13-0.
Pardon for the cliche. Winning is what matters. The OOC schedule did not hurt Washington but when you are winning it takes care of itself instead of losing and waiting to see what other teams are doing. So having a "weak" team like UK didn't hurt us by having them on the schedule, losing to them did.
I'm confused what this thread is about. What is the OSU debacle? I agree with the poster who said who else would you put in ahead of them?
I really have no problem with the Playoff teams based on how the season eventually ended up. 3 conference champions and Ohio State.
I also believe Louisville could potentially go to the Playoff next year with 1 loss, depending on who the loss is to, and with winning the ACC Championship in spite of the loss, like Clemson did this year.
I really have no problem with the Playoff teams based on how the season eventually ended up. 3 conference champions and Ohio State.
I also believe Louisville could potentially go to the Playoff next year with 1 loss, depending on who the loss is to, and with winning the ACC Championship in spite of the loss, like Clemson did this year.
This year's process sent out conflicting messages about your SOS... Washington barely made it in with one loss as a conference champ and with a bad schedule. tOSU safely made it in with a great resume and as a non-champ.
On balance, I think the message is to improve your schedule to be safe. Little question that undefeated in a P5 conference gets you there. (And I'll remind that we've never been undefeated in our long football history...) One loss might still qualify, but again, Washington barely made the cut.
Dropping OOC teams like Charlotte isn't an option. Each represents a couple million dollars to the athletic department. It's the midmajor home-and-away opponents that do nothing for us, financially or schedule-wise...
On balance, I think the message is to improve your schedule to be safe. Little question that undefeated in a P5 conference gets you there. (And I'll remind that we've never been undefeated in our long football history...) One loss might still qualify, but again, Washington barely made the cut.
Dropping OOC teams like Charlotte isn't an option. Each represents a couple million dollars to the athletic department. It's the midmajor home-and-away opponents that do nothing for us, financially or schedule-wise...
I think if Louisville doesn't lose to Houston and UK, they get into the playoff. They were ranked that way at least. It would have come down to Washington or Louisville and I think a team with the Heisman winner would get the nod.
I don't have a single issue with the playoffs this year. From a fan perspective, I don't think Washington is that good and I wanted Michigan to have beaten OSU and get into the playoff but it played out as best as it could to avoid controversy. If you're Penn State, you can't really argue because you have more losses than the other four teams that got in.
As far as what Louisville has to do, is get one typically good power five team from someone like the Big Ten or Big 12 or Pac 12 to do a home and home with since you're locked into the rivalry game with Kentucky.
That way people can't say anything if the conference is down or if you have to make a case at the end of the year to get into a semi over another contender. Ohio State scheduled Oklahoma and that may have been the difference to voters.
It's just kind of an insurance policy if being left out is something you're concerned about as a coach.
That way people can't say anything if the conference is down or if you have to make a case at the end of the year to get into a semi over another contender. Ohio State scheduled Oklahoma and that may have been the difference to voters.
It's just kind of an insurance policy if being left out is something you're concerned about as a coach.
It didn't hurt Washington. They played 2-10 Rutgers, 8-4 Idaho, and 3-8 Portland State.IDK..... I think 12-1 with ACC championship would get us in.
One thing this season has proven is that you do get punished for weak OOC schedule. Ours needs an upgrade. No more Charlottes. Our OOC has to be good because the bottom of our division in the ACC really drags down our SOS.
Starting with Purdue next year is an upgrade over Charlotte.
Year after that is Bama.
Had Louisville beaten Houston and UK it would have changed nothing except that we would have gone to the Orange Bowl as the 5th ranked team. Neither Houston or UK were, or are, ranked. Louisville still would have been 1-1 against ranked competition and that would not have been enough to jump Washington or OSU. I don't see them picking the Cards over a one-loss PAC 12 champ Washington with 3 ranked wins, or one-loss OSU with wins over Wisconsin, Oklahoma and Michigan.
So if a 12-1 Louisville team wins the ACC Title game and is passed over the playoffs for a 11-1 FSU team , whos only lost is to Louisville? never going to happen, right ?
Happen to Penn state.
Hell, it happened to UofL in the Orange bowl 'selection'
Happen to Penn state.
Hell, it happened to UofL in the Orange bowl 'selection'
So.
They beat OSU AND won the conference.
OSU didnt even win their division.
11-2 UofL vs 11-1 FSU under the same circumstances as Penn st and OSU, who gets in...
They beat OSU AND won the conference.
OSU didnt even win their division.
11-2 UofL vs 11-1 FSU under the same circumstances as Penn st and OSU, who gets in...
That is true. PSU did lose two games. PSU also beat OSU head to head, AND won the B1G conference championship game which OSU didn't even get to play in.
A strong argument can be made for Penn State to be in the top 4 based on winning what was considered the strongest college football conference championship and beating Ohio State head to head. PSU is on the outside looking in. OSU is in. Makes me shake my head.
On the surface, seeing OSU make the playoffs despite not winning their conference looks weird. But, they were an original top 4 when the rankings were first released and did their part to remain in contention. Head to head just isn't that important, so we've falsely been led to believe. UofL beat FSU. Doesn't matter. FSU gets the Orange. OSU lost to PSU. Doesn't matter. OSU makes the playoffs.
No they weren't. OSU was ranked 6th in the first playoff poll and had already lost to Penn State.
Everyone was predicting the TCU model. TCU was 3rd until the final poll where they dropped to #6.
If Penn state had scheduled West Carolina instead of Pitt, theyre in the playoffs.
The thing not mentioned is, maybe some punished them because of the Sandusky stuff, or they think OSU can compete with Bama.
My OP stands. UofL is not one of the big boys. They need to be 13-0 to get in.
Here's a pretty good article on why the committee got it right:
https://theringer.com/the-college-football-playoff-committee-got-it-right-15e844e9817c#.ejrghtty7
https://theringer.com/the-college-football-playoff-committee-got-it-right-15e844e9817c#.ejrghtty7
A very good article. I still think that what happened this year will force the expansion to 6 or 8 teams to happen sooner rather than later. I mean we have the B1G champion sitting at home watching a team they beat playing for the chance at a national championship from their own conference. I also think it's safe to say the B1G had the best football conference from top to bottom this past season.
Penn State lost to Michigan by 39. Thirty nine!
I'll go out on a limb and say no team will ever lose a game by that many points and qualify for the playoff that year.
I'll go out on a limb and say no team will ever lose a game by that many points and qualify for the playoff that year.
Injuries need to be considered too. PSU had a TON of injuries to key players the week leading up to playing Michigan. Once they got healthy, they started playing as well as anyone in the country and isn't that what we're supposed to see playing today for the championship? The 4 teams playing the best football? It's really hard to say PSU isn't one of those 4.
Teams in the playoffs have been blown out in 4 of the 6 games by scores of
39,38,22, and 20.
Same thing will probably happen this year with Alabama in there.
And obviously, I meant a regular season loss.
Cue, to your point, it's a tough discussion. Alabama clearly belongs in, and I think you can make the argument that Clemson also absolutely belongs.
I've got no dogs in the fight but if you forced me to pick the next 2 best teams, it's probably OSU and Michigan. Hell, USC is probably playing better than anyone not named Alabama right now.
I look at it this way - back in the old days before I started losing hair and gaining weight, we had the old Bowl Coalition tie-ins, where the best 2 teams wouldn't even play each other in the post season - we complained, and eventually got the BCS. We complained some more, and now we have 4 teams. I personally think 4 is enough. No matter how many teams get in, there will always be someone on the outside looking in who thinks they belong.
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I want to see 8 teams myself. I want to see the power 5 conference champions and 3 at-large teams. I think that is about as fair as it can get. That way, like this year, a team like USC, Penn State, or even Michigan might qualify for a second shot at a national championship.
Interesting about OOC scheduling... Wash took the safe route and it paid off.... albeit barely. Oklahoma tried to get aggressive and got burned. If they replace Houston and OSU with Rutgers and Idaho then they are undefeated and take the Wash spot. I don't see the OOC upgrade risks in this model.
I thought the rules stated they must take the highest ranked team outside of the champion so there wasn't a selection, right?
I've never had an issue with any of the college football playoffs yet. The BCS, however, had many huge mistakes that come to mind.
2000-FSU over Miami (a little more complicated because Washington also lost once but beat Miami while Miami beat FSU)
2003- Oklahoma over USC
2008- Oklahoma over Texas
2011- Alabama over Oklahoma State
IDK..... I think 12-1 with ACC championship would get us in.
One thing this season has proven is that you do get punished for weak OOC schedule. Ours needs an upgrade. No more Charlottes. Our OOC has to be good because the bottom of our division in the ACC really drags down our SOS.
Starting with Purdue next year is an upgrade over Charlotte.
Year after that is Bama.
The schedule next year is absolute ****, especially OOC.
We'll never know, but from the way it turned out I think you're mistaken.
The POC was all over the board with their criteria. And most of it was set up to get 2 B1Gs in if there was any way possible.
I think we were Orange bound. Period. Until WE blew it of course.