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Sorry for posting this reply late, just got home from morning mass, shaking hands and dispelling rumors and innuendo.
I don't know why they don't post the losing scores on their Twitter feed.
I'd be like '7th and 8th graders, plenty of opportunities to get two years of film in arguably the best football conference in the state. Open House on November 6th at SR's beautiful 37 acre campus'
Like I posted before, in today's age with overlapping areas, shrinking pot, recruiting goes in waves. What school-traditional, dependable families are coming through, lead recruits you get etc.
But more importantly, HS is the 4 year window where youth promise or youth potential eventually meets reality. Ever hear of IMG? Basically a HS where the idea is that your sport or specialty is your major and where you will meet the state guidelines to graduate in your off-field, off-court time. I believe MC lost an impact senior this way. And IMG won't be the last of these types of education models. And on this board, there are parents' of transfers that navigate these 4 years the best they can. It's not right or wrong. Any parent can develop their child the way they see fit and people should butt out of those personal decisions.
When I went to SR, you had 3 great grade school superstars at each position freshman year. And that was the same at Leo, MC, SL, and BR. By varsity, kids quit if they weren't starting to get a job after school and get some money on the hip, or stuck to another sport or activity other than football. But this was ubiquitous across the Catholic League. And it didn't matter because tuition was $850 to a grand a year. Nowadays with tuition north of 10K and other money shelled out to camps during the youth potential years, why would you risk going to a dominant Frosh/Soph program where you have to sweat not playing the position you want or wait until senior year to compete for a starting role. In this day and age, where college recruiters don't have to leave their lazy-boys, why wouldn't you want to have some junior year film.
Point being, recruiting goes in waves, now more than ever. And parents are more invested like never before in this 4 year window from promise to reality.
Frosh/Soph records are good for chest thumping and tavern talk but they hardly mean that much. Take this year's Provi seniors and last year's SR seniors, both won their freshman titles. Frosh/Soph years should be spent running 5 running plays, 5 3rd down plays and your base defense so when the Varsity coach gets you, you can run those plays with your eyes closed.
And this post is not a knock on SR's current Frosh/Soph classes. They'll be fine. The Frosh score was 7-0 at half but MC obviously has more depth and veer just runs you down. Last week's Frosh loss to SL in OT is not a concern either. Both teams had enough opportunities to win the game in regulation. Those freshman will develop over the next couple weeks and years vs PC, BR, MC and LA. Practices will be crisper, off-season workouts will be more intense. And if leaders emerge making sure that practice/workouts are at the needed intensity, then they can be like the 1978 state championship team at Rita that went 2-5 their Freshman year. And SR has the coaching staff throughout the whole program to develop them over the next 3 seasons.
I don't know why they don't post the losing scores on their Twitter feed.
I'd be like '7th and 8th graders, plenty of opportunities to get two years of film in arguably the best football conference in the state. Open House on November 6th at SR's beautiful 37 acre campus'
Like I posted before, in today's age with overlapping areas, shrinking pot, recruiting goes in waves. What school-traditional, dependable families are coming through, lead recruits you get etc.
But more importantly, HS is the 4 year window where youth promise or youth potential eventually meets reality. Ever hear of IMG? Basically a HS where the idea is that your sport or specialty is your major and where you will meet the state guidelines to graduate in your off-field, off-court time. I believe MC lost an impact senior this way. And IMG won't be the last of these types of education models. And on this board, there are parents' of transfers that navigate these 4 years the best they can. It's not right or wrong. Any parent can develop their child the way they see fit and people should butt out of those personal decisions.
When I went to SR, you had 3 great grade school superstars at each position freshman year. And that was the same at Leo, MC, SL, and BR. By varsity, kids quit if they weren't starting to get a job after school and get some money on the hip, or stuck to another sport or activity other than football. But this was ubiquitous across the Catholic League. And it didn't matter because tuition was $850 to a grand a year. Nowadays with tuition north of 10K and other money shelled out to camps during the youth potential years, why would you risk going to a dominant Frosh/Soph program where you have to sweat not playing the position you want or wait until senior year to compete for a starting role. In this day and age, where college recruiters don't have to leave their lazy-boys, why wouldn't you want to have some junior year film.
Point being, recruiting goes in waves, now more than ever. And parents are more invested like never before in this 4 year window from promise to reality.
Frosh/Soph records are good for chest thumping and tavern talk but they hardly mean that much. Take this year's Provi seniors and last year's SR seniors, both won their freshman titles. Frosh/Soph years should be spent running 5 running plays, 5 3rd down plays and your base defense so when the Varsity coach gets you, you can run those plays with your eyes closed.
And this post is not a knock on SR's current Frosh/Soph classes. They'll be fine. The Frosh score was 7-0 at half but MC obviously has more depth and veer just runs you down. Last week's Frosh loss to SL in OT is not a concern either. Both teams had enough opportunities to win the game in regulation. Those freshman will develop over the next couple weeks and years vs PC, BR, MC and LA. Practices will be crisper, off-season workouts will be more intense. And if leaders emerge making sure that practice/workouts are at the needed intensity, then they can be like the 1978 state championship team at Rita that went 2-5 their Freshman year. And SR has the coaching staff throughout the whole program to develop them over the next 3 seasons.
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Im very worried about the frosh; especially b/c of the low number of kids. I agree with you that frosh results are basically meaningless, but I have seen parts of two games (St. Pats and St. Laurence), and they looked very weak in both games. Like yourself, I am very high on the coaching staffs at SR. I loved the guys who coached Rita's frosh team for years. They were Visitation guys (same parish as my Mom) who were always real good to me. But I never liked how they ran a system different from the varsity system. I'm very happy the current frosh staff runs the same system as the varsity, and the frosh coaching staff seems pretty damn good. I just don't think they have much talent and not a ton of kids to work with. Hope I'm wrong.
Wow, never knew the 78 title team was 2-5 as frosh; that is pretty astonishing. Was Zvagnin on the 78 title team? As a St. Bernadette grad, he was kind of a legend in our parish. My brother used to teach at St. Joe's and got to know Mark well; I was hoping Zvagnin could have had a bit more success there.