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NeverTellMeTheOdds

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Fitzgerald is going to be asked to fire his oc at the end of the year. He probably listens when LSU calls.

Rich Rod was OC at Tulane under Bowden when they went 12-0. He'd be interesting.

My guess is they're going to swing at established HC's and get nowhere with big names. Left overs who may be interested would be guys like Tuberville, Cuttcliffe and Petrino, yuck.

It would be surprising if they went flashy or with a coordinator with this hire, but if they go that way Kiffen, Jeremy Pruitt and Frost probably top the list. SEC schools love hiring Saban coordinators...

Don't see Herman or Fisher making the move.

NFL wildcard: Josh McDaniels

It's early for these threads!
 
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Whether or not Herman would take the job, and I don't know if he would, he's going to get a great big *** kicking raise at Houston. I just don't think he does it personally.
 
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They are in a tough situation. If they don't manage to hire a really big name like Fisher, then the new guy will be some up-and-comer like Herman. But with the total domination of Alabama right now, would someone like Herman even want to go to a precarious job situation like LSU, where you need to win titles or get fired? Alabama owns the SEC right now so LSU needs to hit a big name here or they are going to regret firing Miles.
 
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Dark horse prediction is Mark Dantonio. Unfortunately, I don't think LSU wants to run a Dantonio offense, they want a spread system to beat Saban.
 
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huskerbr12 said:
Fitzgerald is going to be asked to fire his oc at the end of the year. He probably listens when LSU calls.

Rich Rod was OC at Tulane under Bowden when they went 12-0. He'd be interesting.

My guess is they're going to swing at established HC's and get nowhere with big names. Left overs who may be interested would be guys like Tuberville, Cuttcliffe and Petrino, yuck.

It would be surprising if they went flashy or with a coordinator with this hire, but if they go that way Kiffen, Jeremy Pruitt and Frost probably top the list. SEC schools love hiring Saban coordinators...

Don't see Herman or Fisher making the move.

NFL wildcard: Josh McDaniels

It's early for these threads!
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Say what you will about Petrino but he would excel with the talent down there real quick. Louisville has some killer defense to go along with that offense.
 
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They are in a tough situation. If they don't manage to hire a really big name like Fisher, then the new guy will be some up-and-comer like Herman. But with the total domination of Alabama right now, would someone like Herman even want to go to a precarious job situation like LSU, where you need to win titles or get fired? Alabama owns the SEC right now so LSU needs to hit a big name here or they are going to regret firing Miles.
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If Herman wouldn't leave Houston for a job like LSU he's a straight up coward and not worth having.
 
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They are in a tough situation. If they don't manage to hire a really big name like Fisher, then the new guy will be some up-and-comer like Herman. But with the total domination of Alabama right now, would someone like Herman even want to go to a precarious job situation like LSU, where you need to win titles or get fired? Alabama owns the SEC right now so LSU needs to hit a big name here or they are going to regret firing Miles.
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Analagous to our situation here in the B1G. No one is probably going to consistently beat Meyer save Saban (who probably isn't going anywhere, let alone here).

I think we did a great job getting Riley, we may not end up as a team that is favored in most games over OSU, but he's building the program the right way and will give us at least a chance of competing for a B1G title.
 
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Say what you will about Petrino but he would excel with the talent down there real quick. Louisville has some killer defense to go along with that offense.
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Ya, Petrino is the south end of a mule walking north but he can coach high level football. He would be a nightmare for the SEC with Louisiana and E Texas talent.
 
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Bobots be like, "what about this guy?"
 
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Ya, Petrino is the south end of a mule walking north but he can coach high level football. He would be a nightmare for the SEC with Louisiana and E Texas talent.
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It will be interesting to see how coaches approach job opportunities with the playoff now established. I don't think Petrino goes back to the SEC. In four years at Arkansas he finished 4th, 4th, 2nd, and 3rd in the West. He has it made in Louisville and a much easier path to the playoff.
 
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litespeedhuskerfan said:
Frost isn't the hot commodity Herman is. Herman can go anywhere, maybe even the NFL. Frosty prolly isn't gonna get a better opportunity than LSU, ever.
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I guess I don't see the difference. If Frost turns around UCF, similar to what Herman did at UH, he will be a hot commodity too. Secondly, how many better opportunities are there than LSU? 5 or 6 maybe. I have never seen anything written where Herman has said he has NFL aspirations. Maybe he does, but as a career college coach he seems to thrive in that arena.
 
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I guess I don't see the difference. If Frost turns around UCF, similar to what Herman did at UH, he will be a hot commodity too. Secondly, how many better opportunities are there than LSU? 5 or 6 maybe. I have never seen anything written where Herman has said he has NFL aspirations. Maybe he does, but as a career college coach he seems to thrive in that arena.
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It's just my opinion, worth exactly what you paid for it!

Hey I don't know, it's just a gut feeling. I'm not the only one I've heard mention that Herman might want to avoid LSU though, and we'll see soon enough.

Frost doesn't have to turn LSU around, they are LSU. UCF is only keeping his headset warm until he leaves, which will be about as soon as he can if he has some success there. Herman probably isn't going to be at Houston very much longer, but between some of the openings out there...Oregon, Texas, USC, all are better winnable opportunities because they don't have to share as much of the recruiting territory and none of the others are in the SEC, where BTW, LSU wanted to run a national title winning coach out last year, way before they should have. All those others schools I mentioned would be better in that area in terms of fan patience. Out of Oregon, USC, and Texas, I believe at least two of them will be open, no way all 3 coaches are at all of those schools next year. So that factors into this as well, LSU isn't the only pretty girl at the dance.
 
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I was just looking for your rationale. Living in south Texas, I hear a lot about Tom Herman but I haven't heard anything about him wanting to turn down LSU at this point, other than the I have no comment coach speak and no one from LSU has contacted me stuff.

I am not sure what you meant about Frost turning LSU around. I hope I didn't insinuate that LSU was a rebuild job. Clearly it isn't. My point about Frost was just that if/ when he turns UCF around he will be the next Tom Herman, as far as hot commodities go.

Those jobs that may open are all attractive. But as of now only one of them is.

Regardless if anyone of them do open, LSU is still a top 5 or 6 job in the country. So when you said Frost won't get a better opportunity than LSU ever, I was just surprised. It's like saying Mack Brown was never going to get a better job than Texas. They don't get much better. Equal sure. That's why guys don't typically, if ever leave Alabama for Texas or Texas for USC unless they are fired or go to the NFL and then return.

Good discussion. Thanks
 
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I am baffled as to why Kyle Wittingham from Utah isn't mentioned. He has taken a small Mountain West School and made them competitive in the PAC-12.
 
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I am baffled as to why Kyle Wittingham from Utah isn't mentioned. He has taken a small Mountain West School and made them competitive in the PAC-12.
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I know I sound like a broken record, but they ran Miles last year, or tried to, and he was awesome there. I really believe that matters to a lot of coaches with options, Kyle would have options if he wanted to leave. Having said that, LSU will make you an instant 50X millionaire so there's that...Be real easy to go there knowing no matter what, your worth 50mil. regardless of how it ends.

I predict Kyle takes USC job if Herman doesn't.
 
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I know I sound like a broken record, but they ran Miles last year, or tried to, and he was awesome there. I really believe that matters to a lot of coaches with options, Kyle would have options if he wanted to leave. Having said that, LSU will make you an instant 50X millionaire so there's that...Be real easy to go there knowing no matter what, your worth 50mil. regardless of how it ends.

I predict Kyle takes USC job if Herman doesn't.
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agree .. I just haven't seen his name mentioned .. LSU would be crazy not to be interested ... whether Wittingham would take the job or not I don't know
 
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If Frost goes 12-1 and drills Florida St and the Sooners back to back then he will be a hot commodity on the level of Herman. Hasn't done that yet.

My impression is that Herman believes if UH can get into the Big XII he can build a dynasty recruiting the Houston area. I think he is probably right and this is precisely the reason Texas wants no part of the Coogs and Tom Herman in the conference. They lose their Houston recruiting and it creates a monster. Tom locks down all the players that go to UT, A&M, LSU, OU, etc. Houston has the $ backing now too. I think he is a strategic dude who gets what he wants. He stays. (By the way if he turns down the LSU job he is likely bring strategic. Don't think he is a coward. Sheesh.)
 
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If Frost goes 12-1 and drills Florida St and the Sooners back to back then he will be a hot commodity on the level of Herman. Hasn't done that yet.

My impression is that Herman believes if UH can get into the Big XII he can build a dynasty recruiting the Houston area. I think he is probably right and this is precisely the reason Texas wants no part of the Coogs and Tom Herman in the conference. They lose their Houston recruiting and it creates a monster. Tom locks down all the players that go to UT, A&M, LSU, OU, etc. Houston has the $ backing now too. I think he is a strategic dude who gets what he wants. He stays. (By the way if he turns down the LSU job he is likely bring strategic. Don't think he is a coward. Sheesh.)
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Herman did not drill FSU. Petrino did
Let's not get carried away over Herman. OU was overrated this year and Houston plays in a non power five conference. Sure Herman seems like a great coach. But LSU can do better by luring a successful coach proven in a power five conference
 
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Personally, I would go after Briles. He knows the recruiting in that area and if you can turn a dumpster fire program like Baylor's into a top ten team, you have some skills.
I also think he got a raw deal and scapegoated at Baylor
 
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Herman did not drill FSU. Petrino did
Let's not get carried away over Herman. OU was overrated this year and Houston plays in a non power five conference. Sure Herman seems like a great coach. But LSU can do better by luring a successful coach proven in a power five conference
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See chick Fil A bowl last year for Houston victory over FSU.

What proven successful power 5 coach is leaving what they have for LSU? In theory you have a point but most power 5 schools can match any salary to keep their successful coach.

This is the same problem Nebraska had after firing Solich and Pelini, In theory Nebraska is a very good job. But when you fire 9 win coaches people will be cautious. So you get a quasi successful power 5 coach or you go get a successful non power 5 coach
 
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fair enough on the 'show cause'. yet, they just strike me as having the cognitive dissonance to do it, if they can, regardless of the baggage.
 
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See chick Fil A bowl last year for Houston victory over FSU.

What proven successful power 5 coach is leaving what they have for LSU? In theory you have a point but most power 5 schools can match any salary to keep their successful coach.

This is the same problem Nebraska had after firing Solich and Pelini, In theory Nebraska is a very good job. But when you fire 9 win coaches people will be cautious. So you get a quasi successful power 5 coach or you go get a successful non power 5 coach
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Thanks. Forgot about the bowl game.

And I agree that LSU is in a bit of a bind here. Which is why I suggested Briles. Great coach and he would definitely take it. I too wonder though if the NCAA has a show cause deal with him
 
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Herman did not drill FSU. Petrino did
Let's not get carried away over Herman. OU was overrated this year and Houston plays in a non power five conference. Sure Herman seems like a great coach. But LSU can do better by luring a successful coach proven in a power five conference
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UH did drill FSU-held them to something like 5 yards rushing in 1H in Peach Bowl (a much better FSU team than this year's Noles).

Also, Herman coached up a third string QB to beat Alabama and then to win the national championship the year before as OSU offensive coordinator. So yea. He does OK.
 
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OT --- but on the subject of head coaching searches -- to the "we never should have fired Frank" crowd - has Frankie ever been a serious contender for another power 5 coaching position ??

I realize LSU is way out of his league ... but Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, kentucky, etc --- have any of the ****** power 5 programs ever brought him in for so much as an interview?
 
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UH did drill FSU-held them to something like 5 yards rushing in 1H in Peach Bowl (a much better FSU team than this year's Noles).

Also, Herman coached up a third string QB to beat Alabama and then to win the national championship the year before as OSU offensive coordinator. So yea. He does OK.
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Yes, as I noted above I forgot about the bowl game. My bad.

Look, I am not saying he isn't s good coach. I think he is. But I still think LSU is better off going after a proven power five coach. Of course, as has been pointed out, that may not be easy. So Herman might be the guy. He is certainly the hot coach right now. But he has a good gig going right now at Houston.
 
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Yes, as I noted above I forgot about the bowl game. My bad.

Look, I am not saying he isn't s good coach. I think he is. But I still think LSU is better off going after a proven power five coach. Of course, as has been pointed out, that may not be easy. So Herman might be the guy. He is certainly the hot coach right now. But he has a good gig going right now at Houston.
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the thing with Herman is that he recruits exclusively the Houston area ... Houston is only a 4 hr drive from Baton Rouge and Dallas is only 6 hours
You would have a coach that is already deeply engrained in the 2 biggest recruiting hotbeds in Texas
 
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jlb321 said:
the thing with Herman is that he recruits exclusively the Houston area ... Houston is only a 4 hr drive from Baton Rouge and Dallas is only 6 hours
You would have a coach that is already deeply engrained in the 2 biggest recruiting hotbeds in Texas
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Good points.
 
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