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ImHurtinLinda

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just watched the replay......

interception #1 -nice play/interference by the db,if relf leads him to the inside it is 6

interception #2 - running back that stayed in to block was looking for a blitzing safety or corner from the outside-there wasn't one, he just stood there, and #11 almost decapitates Relf

interception #3 - Ballard whiffed at the blitzing LB if he even touches the guy, the screen is completed to Perkins with 8 or 9 LSU defenders in our backfield - likely a touchdown

interception #4 - Russell held the ball in the pocket too long - like his guts to hang in there, but if it ain't happening after 3 or 4 seconds, you need to look around for an escape plan

interception #5 - our5 offensive linemen locked up with their 3 defensive linemen (there were TWO very effective double teams) - only problem is that thoseTWO double teams opened a gaping hole for #11 to sprint through (almost decapitates Russell) - I am not exagerating on this one at all - I am not an O-Line coach, but is that supposed to happen????

kicking game - I am tempted to take a week off of work, and travel around (3 or 4 days max?!?!?) until I find a kid (male or female) under 19 years old that can pass the ACT, and can kick the freaking ball to the goal line with a little air under it - I'm not saying it is the easiest thing in the world, but come on - it is costing us 20-25 yards on every possession.
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Coach34

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ImHurtinLinda said:
just watched the replay......

interception #1 -nice play/interference by the db,if relf leads him to the inside it is 6

interception #2 - running back that stayed in to block was looking for a blitzing safety or corner from the outside-there wasn't one, he just stood there, and #11 almost decapitates Relf

interception #3 - Ballard whiffed at the blitzing LB if he even touches the guy, the screen is completed to Perkins with 8 or 9 LSU defenders in our backfield - likely a touchdown

interception #4 - Russell held the ball in the pocket too long - like his guts to hang in there, but if it ain't happening after 3 or 4 seconds, you need to look around for an escape plan

interception #5 - our5 offensive linemen locked up with their 3 defensive linemen (there were TWO very effective double teams) - only problem is that thoseTWO double teams opened a gaping hole for #11 to sprint through (almost decapitates Russell) - I am not exagerating on this one at all - I am not an O-Line coach, but is that supposed to happen????

kicking game - I am tempted to take a week off of work, and travel around (3 or 4 days max?!?!?) until I find a kid (male or female) under 19 years old that can pass the ACT, and can kick the freaking ball to the goal line with a little air under it - I'm not saying it is the easiest thing in the world, but come on - it is costing us 20-25 yards on every possession.
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he was supposed to do with the pass protection that was called- he was responsible for the backside...he orignally lined up wide to the left and motioned back into the backfield. LSU checked into this blitz when we went 5 wide...they covered out center, RG, and RT and on the snap those guys latched on to our guys- then the MLB shot the opening- Ralph had exactly 1 second to get rid of the ball before he was hit- blaming him for the INT is stupid...he should have just taken the sack and lets punt- but when you have 1 second to react, thats what happens.

Putting Ralph into 5 wide sets is a waste of time and actually a detriment to our offense
 

Todd4State

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that's a grade A example of what Dan is talking about when he says that communication on the o-line has to get better.

I don't know if the depth chart has come out or not, but we need to sit Gabe Jackson and let Saulsberry start. That is basically our o-line from last year minus Craig Jenkins. And I like Gabe Jackson and think he will be good in time, but he is a RS freshman and I think having a line that resembles basically what we had last year should in theory communicate better. If that is indeed the problem.
 

DogFan75

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Tobias, is one of our best O-lineman but his health with his ankles is always a question. He is healthy this week and will get the start. But when we get in this spread formation with just the QB in the backfield in the backfield it gets ugly. Lets put our best blocking back in there to protect the blitz when we use this formation? We seem much more productive when have good blocking backs in the backfield. All this fancy **** drives me crazy and the best 2 things we have done this year is the start of the 2'nd half in both the Auburn & LSU games!!
 

Todd4State

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I would like to see us use a "sixth offensive lineman" especially since our TE's are banged up. This is something that Florida does regularly, and also the Saints do it some as well. So, it's not a foreign concept. It's just that one of those lineman is an eligible receiver, but it really doesn't matter since we're using them for extra blocking.

We could make Gabe Jackson the "sixth" guy. Also, leave Hanrahan in to block as well at times. I'm thinking of a formation kind of like West Virginia, but slightly heavier where we have Relf in the gun flanked by Ballard on one side and then Hanrahan on the other. Then have Bumphis and Arceto split out as WR's. Then run option out of that (zone read, speed, etc). We could also use Bumphis/Heavens/Arceto in short passes, screens, and also on reverses/jet sweeps. I would put Marcus Green in this formation as a WR instead of Arceto, but I'm assuming that Green isn't healthy. Marcus is our best receiver in my opinion. He is a fairly big target with good hands, and he could be a tough match-up for some corners.

Have to agree that Relf in a five wide set is not very effective because he can't throw accurately as it is. Any team will take the gamble that they can all out blitz him in that set and even the slightest bit of pressure will mess it up. On top of that, even if they don't get great pressure, there's a better than average chance that he will screw it up even without pressure. Plus, if it is a designed run, it's not going to work more times than not because people will bring the house again not respecting the pass. We also do not have a reliable WR that is over 6 feet tall that we can count on the outside. We have a lot of slot type WR's, so we aren't getting great match-ups on the outside.
 

patdog

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Coach34 said:
Putting Ralph into 5 wide sets is a waste of time and actually a detriment to our offense
I think us running 5wides period is a waste of time and a detriment to our offense. I cringe every time I see us line up with 5wides. It's a disaster waiting to happen. If I can see this, surely Mullen can.
 

Shmuley

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Why is an SEC program forced to trot glass ankled pussies out there as OL starters? Why?

And a comment: When we go 5 wide, it appears the hope is that maybe one of those slow bastards will get just a small bit of separation (hey, I can dream, can't I?). Pulling a back in to chip or whiff just means there's one less covered receiver in the pattern.

Run the damn ball.
 

coach66

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his back and basically knocked him down to claim the ball. Had that been caught for a TD, game on. Basically, after watching the replay I felt better about our team because for the most part we beat ourselves and were not overwhelmed by their talent level which has been the norm. If we can right our ship we have enough talent to win five or six more games.
 

lawdawg02

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interception #4 - Russell held the ball in the pocket too long - like his guts to hang in there, but if it ain't happening after 3 or 4 seconds, you need to look around for an escape plan
Watch Berry's route. He took about 3 seconds to go the first three yards because he was jammed. Russell had to wait for him to break the route to the outside past the marker, which is why he waited in the pocket so long. When Berry finally got there, Russell had already been hit and thrown the ball. If he had thrown it more to the sideline, it still had a chance. But I think Berry's route (and not getting off the line) was the failure of that play.

On the screen (Nevis INT), Perkins might still be running if Russell gets that ball over the hands in his face. It was the PERFECT play call there - they brought 7. Our execution was just amazingly bad.
 

Irondawg

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But if Berry's not getting into the route Russell has to check that quickly and check down to the options 2 or 3 on the play and that internal alarm clock has to go off that he's got to do something other than just stand there.

I think the Memphis game gave him a little false confidence in the OL b/c he and Relf could stand back there for 7 seconds with no pressure
 

lawdawg02

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And I should've added that I don't know what the other receivers did on the play. But it seemed like TR was only looking for Berry, who took all day to run his route.

I don't think there was a blitz, so maybe he thought he would have plenty of time to stand in. Either way, that's a young QB mistake - gotta feel the pressure.
 

mjh94

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i keep watchin all these other games, and EVERYBODY IN THE NATION has a kicker that kicks it to the goal line if not deeper, except US. WTF? that's killing us in field position.

ETA: and, God, please let someone besides Bumphis return kickoffs.. he's the most nonchalant lookin' returner we've had in years. langston was much better at the end of the LSU game.. can't remember if Berry even touched the ball on a return.
 

dudehead

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can't say that I blame him. I wouldn't want to return kickoffs either, but someone has to do it. Just get someone in there that does.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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Coach34 said:
Putting Ralph into 5 wide sets is a waste of time and actually a detriment to our offense
The only useful play for Relf in a 5-wide set would be to run the QB draw in the 2 minute offense. We should have done this against Auburn when we were approaching field goal range with a timeout left.
 

tenureplan

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Then 99% of the time the returner gets taken down at the 16 after bringing it out of the Endzone and a holding call brings it back to the 8.