LT Academic Center...

[JMsmith.sixpack]

LT and the architect - Skip have made a joke out of this building coming anywhere close to an academic center. It is useless. Can you believe that they did not even consult with the Asst AD for Academics regarding what the needs were? I am sure it is b/c they knew so much more than a seasoned veteran with years of academic success. They put glass walls throughout - how can anyone work with students this way? LT ordered furniture without consulting anyone. LT insisted
there were enough computer ports without asking and now there are no where near enough for computers in the study areas - which is also a joke. What student can study with glass walls to distract and desks too small to hold the equipment - much less the student? AND LT has an office in the building. It has no functionality in regards to an academic setting. It is useless and non functioning. LT only wants a shrine. He doesn't care about anything but promoting himself and he only cares about those who kiss up to him. You can blame the architect with Wyatt & Assoc along with LT for this disaster in the making.

<span style="font-style: italic;">Edit to say I split the topic because it bumped up a month old post. - DS</span>

 

[JMsmith.sixpack]

LT and the architect - Skip have made a joke out of this building coming anywhere close to an academic center. It is useless. Can you believe that they did not even consult with the Asst AD for Academics regarding what the needs were? I am sure it is b/c they knew so much more than a seasoned veteran with years of academic success. They put glass walls throughout - how can anyone work with students this way? LT ordered furniture without consulting anyone. LT insisted
there were enough computer ports without asking and now there are no where near enough for computers in the study areas - which is also a joke. What student can study with glass walls to distract and desks too small to hold the equipment - much less the student? AND LT has an office in the building. It has no functionality in regards to an academic setting. It is useless and non functioning. LT only wants a shrine. He doesn't care about anything but promoting himself and he only cares about those who kiss up to him. You can blame the architect with Wyatt & Assoc along with LT for this disaster in the making.

<span style="font-style: italic;">Edit to say I split the topic because it bumped up a month old post. - DS</span>

 

[JMsmith.sixpack]

LT and the architect - Skip have made a joke out of this building coming anywhere close to an academic center. It is useless. Can you believe that they did not even consult with the Asst AD for Academics regarding what the needs were? I am sure it is b/c they knew so much more than a seasoned veteran with years of academic success. They put glass walls throughout - how can anyone work with students this way? LT ordered furniture without consulting anyone. LT insisted
there were enough computer ports without asking and now there are no where near enough for computers in the study areas - which is also a joke. What student can study with glass walls to distract and desks too small to hold the equipment - much less the student? AND LT has an office in the building. It has no functionality in regards to an academic setting. It is useless and non functioning. LT only wants a shrine. He doesn't care about anything but promoting himself and he only cares about those who kiss up to him. You can blame the architect with Wyatt & Assoc along with LT for this disaster in the making.

<span style="font-style: italic;">Edit to say I split the topic because it bumped up a month old post. - DS</span>

 

[saltybulldog]

mooku.

 

[8dog]

they have damn near ruined our campus.

 

[Center Z]

to at least try to match the architecture of new buildings to the existing campus architecture? That's a nice looking building and all, but damn, it doesn't look a #@$$!+# thing like Lee, Swalm, Montgomery, McCain, Carpenter, etc.

The renovation of the Union, which transformed it from the "Government Building" motif to actually match the **** that's all over campus, was a huge step in the right direction. I thought whoever is in charge of these types of decisions would have realized that by now.

 

[bonedaddy401]

athletes I talked to say that they aren't looking forward to being in there because they will never leave. They will practice study and eat in the same basic complex.

 

[DerHntr]

Signed,

Doc Foglesong

/i couldn't resist

 

[DerHntr]

DP would appreciate it.</p>

 

[Dawgbreeze]

All LT was interested in was getting an office to continue to suck off the tit and getting his name on the bldg. I would imagine if someone dug into the furniture deal, he had a piece of the action like he has on most of every other contract in which he has been involved. Watson, when confronted at the West Point Rotary Club last week told someone that LT would always have an office at MSU as long as he was there. Interestingly, LT and his cronies are supporting Watson. It is the same old same old. As long as LT is on campus, there will be disharmony and Byrne better realize he will be targeted at every opportunity.

 

[TR.sixpack]

Now that LT is gone, Foil-Wyatt's MSU gravy train is over. These tools are responsible for some the worst architectural abominations on campus today -- Henry Hunter Center, Bryan Building, Palmeiro Center, etc.

 

[topdawg.sixpack]

This actually has to do with what Veazy talked about on his blog the other day, about leasing the land for athletic facilities. The Bulldog Club leased that land, and chose the architecture, which I am sure was chosen by LT. However, I dont think it is that bad, because It matches most buildings on that side of campus.

Plus, if LT had gotten his way that building would be in the Junction, in the corner of the stadium between the west side of DWS and The M-Club. He wanted to put that building right there and not have the Junction. Luckily, Charles Lee did buck him on that.

 

[Stansfield]

The building looks badass. Stop all your <17>ing pissing and moaning all the damn time. Everytime I have driven past It I have been highly impressed. This just goes to show that no matter what you do, some redneck from MSU is gonna piss and moan.

 

[futaba.79]

nt

 

[rugbdawg]

in a room with windows. I'm serious about that. But, haha, it seems like they went a little overboard to max out the students' potential.

 

[olemissbydamn]

The building looks badass. Stop all your <17>ing pissing and moaning all the damn time. Everytime I have driven past It I have been highly impressed. This just goes to show that no matter what you do, some redneck from MSU is gonna piss and moan.

I think you are missing their point.

The building does look nice. The posters are just noting that it doesn't fit in with other structures on campus.

Whoever your campus architect/facilities planning person is should have nixed that design in the planning stages. You can't blame the architect. The university accepted his concept. I doubt he drew it and they were forced to accept it.

Skip did the Inn at Ole Miss and it turned out fantastic. It fits in well.

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[SWFLDawg]

It looks like something that Mussolini would have wanted to be buried in. It's entirely too monumental and easy to see that it was built on a very tight budget. I totally disagree with the argument about windows. Rugbdog is right, it is fact that students and workers for that matter perform better with natural light. The architecture library was always my favorite place to study on campus. I always max out indirect natural light in my buildings.

I am not a believer that all the buildings on campus have to look like Lee or Montgomery. Building technology has come a long way in 100 years: why not look forward instead of back? But still this building aint good no matter where it is. We could have done much better.

 

[8dog]

what type of architecture to stick to as opposed to our campus, which he has used as his firm's own experimental lab.

The only positive about the Templeton Center arch is that it matches the Bryan Building. I think for the most part we are done sticking contemporary arch on a college campus. The Union had a contemporary look and was renovated for a classic look.

 

[8dog]

it sounds like the wall within the building are clear. That is a different deal and is a distraction. You can incorporate all sorts of building technology into a building that doesn't look dumb as **** on a college campus.

And has anyone seen the new batter's eye we had to buy b/c of this building.

 

[olemissbydamn]

what type of architecture to stick to as opposed to our campus, which he has used as his firm's own experimental lab.

I think for the most part we are done sticking contemporary arch on a college campus. The Union had a contemporary look and was renovated for a classic look.

I agree. That's what I'm saying. It's up to the university planners to tell Skip to go back to the drawing board.

I was at MSU before the Union was renovated. It was hideous, just like the OM union. Architects in the 60-70's got on a contemporary kick. I call it Brady Bunch architecture. Batesville had a beautiful old Courthouse on their square once upon a time. It was torn down in the 60's for a building that was similar in design to the old MSU union. I'm sure everyone thought it was a great idea at the time. It's an eye sore now.

 

[8dog]

have traditional architecture..b/c its always good looking. Even if you can call one of F-W's disasters on our campus good looking now...it won't be in 25 years. And MSU will still be around in 25 years.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

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[8dog]

do they provide laptops?

i would think if you are going to have a computer lab, you would have an ample amount of ports. If you are relying on wireless, just rename the CW Depot, the academic center.

 

[dawgstudent]

to have wireless. You can get a wireless card for a desktop. The lack of wired ports is not that big of a deal but at the same time, I don't see why they didn't do it.

 

[8dog]

but you are saying there is a desk top there but no port? I just assumed that no port=no computer being there. I guess I need to see what's going on in there. As long as there are sufficient computers that connect to the net somehow someway, that seems good.

I'll get Extreme to get with Duncan McKenzie to set up a tour.

 

[dawgstudent]

to run the PC and their is a wireless signal being produced, any desktop PC can connect via a wireless network. Or they could have a network switch which will split a connection - same way a power strip works.

 

[Sarc Dawg]

in the building (and I am sure there is) they could add however many ports they need without much trouble. Or as it's been said- just make the whole building wireless capable and be done with it.

 

[8dog]

I took the lack of ports to also mean a signficant lack of actual computers.

 

[dawgstudent]

but you could have as many as you want regardless of how many ports you have.

 

[8dog]

and maybe I just don't understand the original poster. But if there are significant numbers of computers with wireless access, I don't know why a lack of ports would be perceived to be a problem by the original poster. I'll just stop posting about this b/c Im waist deep in a conversation I know very little about.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

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[dawgstudent]

and to add a port in the wall after the fact takes about 5 minutes.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Also, one problem a lot of places have been having in the past few years is what to do with cables, ports, etc. since technological advances are such that they can move away from them.

I see the "less ports" comment brought forth by the original poster to be a non-issue provided that the academic center has the necessary IT support.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Office computers could be on a secure wireless network.</p>

 

[dawgstudent]

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[Stansfield]

The building looks badass. Stop all your <17>ing pissing and moaning all the damn time. Everytime I have driven past It I have been highly impressed. This just goes to show that no matter what you do, some redneck from MSU is gonna piss and moan.

I think you are missing their point.

The building does look nice. The posters are just noting that it doesn't fit in with other structures on campus.

Whoever your campus architect/facilities planning person is should have nixed that design in the planning stages. You can't blame the architect. The university accepted his concept. I doubt he drew it and they were forced to accept it.

Skip did the Inn at Ole Miss and it turned out fantastic. It fits in well.

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If you have been by the Athletic Department complex all of the buildings fit together perfectly.

 

[cowbell9]

....they DID try and match it with other bldngs in its vacinity.

 

[Stansfield]

It will look really nice when it is all completed.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

plus they just aren't that fast. I get about 40-50mbps here at work, where the wireless would probably be about 1/10th that

 

[vandaldawg]

And the Union renovation is a disaster. Terrible. And yes, Foil Wyatt has singlehandedly gangraped our campus. These things should be competitively bid. I don't give a rat's *** if the firm is a Mississippi firm or not.</p>