MAD-DOG 20/20's Uni-Guide & Proposal

ChillbillyRock

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Aug 30, 2009
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It really did bother me somewhat this year on our total-adoption of white helmets. Its like we abandoned our maroon lids. And when we did don our bold-colored hat, it was the grossest version of a maroon helmet. I don't mind the gray face mask every now-n-then or even the maroon logo on maroon helmet (for some unknown reason)....but the gray single stripe down the center just capped it off with a crude punchline. Whoever pitched that design as our main maroon helmet just doesn't get it. I didn't have enough time today to mock-up my opinions for appropriate alternates....but I will!!!!! and of course Alternate Uni's ARE fun & cool when done appropriately . But My God.....did we really have to wear the white helmets SOOO much this year?? anyway, here's what i did today and I'll finish up this little project pretty soon with alternate colored helmet/jersey/pants & appropriate reasons in which to wear them.

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Uncle Ruckus

All-American
Apr 1, 2011
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This is the right answer, but white pants with maroon tops with maroon and gray piping is also acceptable. I think it’s been 23 years with we’ve seen that combo with the helmet pictured above
 

39762

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Mar 3, 2008
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Like everything but the banner logo. It was designed as an alternate logo and somehow has become primary for uniforms. Let’s go to “State” and we’re good to go. Problem with including Mississippi in the banner is that people may associate us with Ole Miss and all of their embarrassment.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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The banner logo is not going to change. It wasn't designed as an alternate logo, it was designed as our basketball logo and a few years later we adopted it as our only logo. The only good think Polk did in his 2nd stint as our coach was veto using it for baseball, which was Templeton's original plan.

Edit: I thought you were referring to the M-State logo, but realize you were talking about the Mississippi State banner on the jersey. Either way, that's not going anywhere either.
 
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travis.sixpack

All-Conference
Mar 3, 2008
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These are good tweaks to an already solid uniform design. The new white helmets don’t bother me, but the M/M/Gray combo is the best uniform ever worn by State.

I’d like to see some Sleepy Robinson era throwbacks with the STATE on then jersey and the block interlocking MSU helmets.
 

Dawgpile

Senior
May 23, 2006
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Like everything but the banner logo. It was designed as an alternate logo and somehow has become primary for uniforms. Let’s go to “State” and we’re good to go. Problem with including Mississippi in the banner is that people may associate us with Ole Miss and all of their embarrassment.

My thoughts exactly before I read your post. Lose the "Mississippi" part of the woodmark, and just go with a bigger "State" banner.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

Redshirt
Aug 23, 2012
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Change the gray pants to white pants. Last I heard our colors are maroon and white-not maroon and gray. Everything else I agree with.
 
Aug 5, 2011
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It really did bother me somewhat this year on our total-adoption of white helmets. Its like we abandoned our maroon lids. And when we did don our bold-colored hat, it was the grossest version of a maroon helmet. I don't mind the gray face mask every now-n-then or even the maroon logo on maroon helmet (for some unknown reason)....but the gray single stripe down the center just capped it off with a crude punchline. Whoever pitched that design as our main maroon helmet just doesn't get it. I didn't have enough time today to mock-up my opinions for appropriate alternates....but I will!!!!! and of course Alternate Uni's ARE fun & cool when done appropriately . But My God.....did we really have to wear the white helmets SOOO much this year?? anyway, here's what i did today and I'll finish up this little project pretty soon with alternate colored helmet/jersey/pants & appropriate reasons in which to wear them.

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Maroon top with gray pants/maroon helmet is my favorite uni, I don't mind mixing in the white pants either. On the road we need to go all white with maroon helmet or the gray pants....I like what you have created...
 
Aug 22, 2012
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I like the all white look, otherwise stick with Maroon helmets. I like moving to just STATE on the jersey. We have already started branding some stuff like that.
 

josebrown

All-Conference
Aug 4, 2008
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If you get time would you make a matte maroon helmet with white S T A T E letters on it curved to the top like LSU's? I'd like to see how it looks, and have a new avatar. And I'd like to see it or the old MSU on the helmets. When I use to design team uni's the banner logos were cheapest and most used for some reason across the country in the catalogs. Due to that experience I guess I've never liked our banner M logo. To me, if we can't use the old interlocking MSU, I'd love to see us go to a S T A T E logo on helmet.
 

Shamoan

Redshirt
Jun 27, 2013
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If we can commit to keeping the white helmet ONLY for all white road games, I could get behind keeping it. I’ve been anti white helmet in the past, but the all white pops. If you mix in any other combination, it just doesn’t work, but all white looks good.

 

HumpDawgy

All-Conference
Apr 6, 2010
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With my great fashion expertise***, I would prefer the natural gray facemasks. On the home unis, this would make the white logo and number stand out more. Everything else looks good.
 

FQDawg

Senior
May 1, 2006
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the maroon logo on maroon helmet (for some unknown reason)....

We may actually be seeing more of this. Heard that the university actually tweaked the logo slightly and is moving away from using the white version of the M.
 

AtomicDog001

Redshirt
Nov 5, 2010
162
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13
Gimme white britches. And the two stripes on the shoulder. My favorite uni is the one where Dak stiff arms LSU DB into the ground.
 

The Peeper

Heisman
Feb 26, 2008
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Get rid of the black. Get rid of the silver/gray. Get rid of the 17'in GOLD. Get rid of "M State". Do whatever you want to with stripes, and Maroon & White.
 

AusTexDawg

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Mar 29, 2017
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If we can commit to keeping the white helmet ONLY for all white road games, I could get behind keeping it. I’ve been anti white helmet in the past, but the all white pops. If you mix in any other combination, it just doesn’t work, but all white looks good.


This photo is a good example of why I’m not a fan of the all white look - the helmet looks cream next to the bright white jerseys. It’s not just us - Texas and others have the same problem when they wear their “stormtrooper” look. M/W/G is our best road look in quite a while
 

EarlDawg

Redshirt
Aug 23, 2012
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Please get rid of the white helmets, I'm ok with everything/anything else. JUST NO WHITE HELMETS!
 

bbqbully

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Sep 14, 2008
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Two points:
First, pick a uniform and stick with it. This ******** about recruits like the alternates is just that. Alabama doesn’t change, LSU rarely changes, Ohio St. doesn’t change. This doesn’t seem to hurt their recruiting.
Second: I’m older than dirt. I’ve been a State fan since the Shira days. Every time we really, really suck at football, we’ve worn white helmets. See Shira and Croom. I associate white helmets with football hell. Get rid of them.
 
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Bulldog Bruce

All-American
Nov 1, 2007
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The only time I can go for white helmets is when we play TAMU and they are wearing Maroon headgear (or other Maroon helmeted teams). I could see that as helpful to the players.
 

BigWorm.sixpack

Redshirt
Mar 1, 2019
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If we wanted to get rid of the gray...

Get rid of the black. Get rid of the silver/gray. Get rid of the 17'in GOLD. Get rid of "M State". Do whatever you want to with stripes, and Maroon & White.
You can always do what BYU does. They just have two colors but they use a variation of the size of their stripes. Looks clean and good!
 

Rezdog

Junior
Oct 25, 2015
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Two points:
First, pick a uniform and stick with it. This ******** about recruits like the alternates is just that. Alabama doesn’t change, LSU rarely changes, Ohio St. doesn’t change. This doesn’t seem to hurt their recruiting.
Second: I’m older than dirt. I’ve been a State fan since the Shira days. Every time we really, really suck at football, we’ve worn white helmets. See Shira and Croom. I associate white helmets with football hell. Get rid of them.

Bama and LSU don't need to change uniforms to recruit players. Programs like MSU might as well. It definitely doesn't hurt recruiting.
 

Shamoan

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Jun 27, 2013
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it certainly does look pink on the helmet, but that chrome M-state doesnt match the other maroon. its more of a croom era maroon...so pinkish crimson.
 

Shamoan

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Jun 27, 2013
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i agree that mwg is the best, but i dont mind the all white look. its auburn-esqe, but its grown on me. a bunch of teams have problems matching their helmet color with jersey color. thats just the nature of different mediums and materials, but i agree its not spot-on. the white helmet with maroon jersey is trash.
 
Sep 7, 2007
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Color scheme in Chillbilly's proposal is great.

Can we have a discussion about switching logos to our most recognizable one instead? For the record, I'd prefer a solid maroon hat and no outline on the stacked MS. We should've made this happen years ago. Compared to the M-State banner POS, this is fantastic.

 

ServiceDogg

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Nov 19, 2017
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Could you make a few with STATE across the chest and with the MS baseball logo in place of the M STATE logo?
Would love to see how it looks.
Nice work!
 

ChillbillyRock

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Aug 30, 2009
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The only time I can go for white helmets is when we play TAMU and they are wearing Maroon headgear (or other Maroon helmeted teams). I could see that as helpful to the players.

Agreed. There are plenty of reasons to alter a uniform, like the one u mention. I was trying to think of one of the times this year when i was like, "'U serious?, theres rabsolutely no reason to wear white hats this weekend!" ----Tenn game maybe?
 
Sep 7, 2007
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We're leaving money on the table by pushing the BASKETBALL LOGO on the helmets rather than the "baseball logo."

But if the Flying M-State it is, this is the best version I've seen in years--back to early Mullen era.

 

J-Dawg

Junior
Mar 4, 2009
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Honestly, who makes the decision on our logo use? The school or adidas? And who do we need to talk to to plead our case on incorporating the baseball logo into our football uniforms?
 
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