He looks comfortable out there. He will get the 2nd most minutes for the 4 freshman. Caleb, whose game I really like, looked like he never dribbled before when he got here.
Mag - initial impression
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Reminds me a lot of Eugene Omoruyi.
He'll benefit tremendously from a year in the weight room.
He'll benefit tremendously from a year in the weight room.
Eugene couldn't dribble either in his first year. Could end up being a better version of eugene.
I really like Mag’s game. He moves well and is a confident defender. And a very raw talent. easy to root for.
He looks like he will make huge developmental strides this year and next.
Sitting 3 feet behind the Rutgers bench, Eugene had the body of a prototype Tight End.
I don’t think Mag will ever evolve into that kind of size.
Doesn’t mean he can’t perform at the same level.
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Hoping Mag will be that quintessential glue guy. Solid/Great D, foul shots, rebounds,
fluid moving around w/ & with out the ball, and hopefully develops a nice mid range jumper. He definitely has promise
fluid moving around w/ & with out the ball, and hopefully develops a nice mid range jumper. He definitely has promise
Different body type than Eugene. But it is clear that playing at a high level high school program prepared him very well for the college game. Can he shoot consistently? Not a scorer in high school. But does a lot of things very well and will be a key guy during his career.
Mag is a baller. He is so long and bouncy. Will be a an absolute defensive terror. Rebounds steals doing the dirty work. Perfect glue / Pike guy. If he can shoot a decent percentage from 3 it will be massive
He reminds me of Montez and what he has brought to the team. He has alot of potential.
Still a little too early to tell, for me, to be certain what he's going to bring. He's a frosh and he'll be feeling his way for a while, just like the other frosh.
I think he has plenty of room to grow, but I don't think raw talent is how I would describe his play thus far.
I think he has been very solid. Very much in control, which is kind of the antithesis of raw talent.
I have been very impressed with Mag's poise. He doesn't look nervous on the court and I see him developing into a first rate defender / solid rebounder and possessing adequate offense.
He also seems to shoot free throws rather well.
He also seems to shoot free throws rather well.
Looks like the floor is that he will be at least a solid role player with defense and rebounding. If he can shoot, then he could be great. We'll see.
The possibility could be an improved version of Dane Miller?
Miller did a lot of things well, but never put it together, hopefully Mag will.
Miller did a lot of things well, but never put it together, hopefully Mag will.
You are right. I take back my raw talent comment. He is in control and solid, especially on the defensive end. I think he has a lot of potential to be a scorer that other teams would need to worry about.
I have no idea how Mag’s career will end up. Dane was very good and made a big impact immediately at Rutgers.
Someone's gonna have to do more shooting than we've had. Scoring whatever percentage of points we've gotten on fast breaks is not sustainable against good teams.
When I replied originally it got me thinking as to what is a "raw talent" and I kind of knocked around the idea of Reiber being a raw talent. I think he has some clear ability, but he's just not ready to yet, he needs more cooking. Yet, because he can shoot, he can pass, seems pretty cerebral, we often don't equate that type of player with being "raw". Palmquist might fit the raw bill even more, but again, because he can shoot, he's not one we would typically consider raw.
Now Cliff? Because of that length and athletic ability which at this point exceeds his polish, he looks like the epitome of what we typically call raw.
I'm really just bouncing the idea around in my head, but I think any young player who has room to grow should be considered raw, yet it's not often how we use it.
As per Mag, I do wonder what he eventually brings offensively. Someone mentioned Mathis above, but I kind of have the feeling he'd be less of a rim attacker and more of point fwd, but this is from very limited viewing so just shooting from the hip on this one.
Geo coming back will help. Harper certainly looks like he is stepping up as a guy who wants shots, and Young is a guy who is always looking to shoot.
Not that I don't want Mag taking a few more shots, but this team has a ton of options, almost to the point where guys get a little too unselfish.
Dane is 6'6 215 Career Stats 8.2 pts, 5.8 reb, 2.5 ast FG 45% 3pt 26.6% FT 60%
Mag is 6'7 215
They seem to play a very similar lunchpail, do a little of everything style, I would just hope Mag develops into that but more consistent, a Shane Battier type player. Dane had a lot of good games, 53 out of 127 games double digit scoring, but also had 270 TOs for his career average over 2 a game, he had 8 in one game. He also had 29 games of 3 or less pts averaging 20-25 minutes in most of those games. Probably enjoyed college a little too much at times. You don't have to worry about that from this team.
There was obvious friction between Mike Rice and Dane Miller. It was sad watching him play as a senior. 3 games in to the season there is no comparison between the 2. Granted Mag doesn't have the luxury of stepping in to an open line up spot.
I remember the friction, started his Jr Year and continued through his Senior year, didn't that happen in the NBA between an all star and coach, I forget who. The comparison of impact on game is there though watching a couple of Prolific Prep games last year.
First 3 games
Dane Miller 46 min(11,13,22) FG 4-7, FT 3-3, 11 pts, 12 reb., 3 ast., 2 st., 8 TOs, 5 PFs
Mawot Mag 41m(12,17,12) FG 5-8, 3pt 0-1, FT 3-6, 13 pts, 11 reb, 1 st,, 1 blk, 2 TOs, 4 PFs
I don't think Mag will ever have to handle the ball or will have to score like Miller had to his freshman year. Mag won't ever turn the ball over like Miller, his freshman yr with Fred Hill Jr., 2.7 TOs in 32 games(other years. 2.0, 2.0, 1.9). Once Mag gets comfortable in his role and becomes an upperclassman, he will put up similar but better numbers than Miller's best year, 9.2 pts, 6.6 reb, 2.6 ast. Battier 6'8 220 avg 7.6 pts 6.4 reb,, 1.1 ast, 1.4 st, 1.5 blk, 0.7 TOs in 24 minutes freshman year, Mag won't get 24 minutes but he will get about 16-18 minutes, 66-75% of Batter's #s.
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Imagine 3 years ago if I told you........
Eugene Omoruyi would be transferring and it would be devastating news to the program, but the program would recover because Myles Johnson would replace him and become a very important player and possibly the best player on the team.
10,000 to 1 odds on that one.
most (including me) were scratching our head why Pikiell would recruit Eugene and the fact that Myles would be redshirted led most of us to conclude he was never going to be a huge impact player.
bottom line I make no conclusions any more what a player will end up being. Doesn’t stop me from guessing though
Eugene Omoruyi would be transferring and it would be devastating news to the program, but the program would recover because Myles Johnson would replace him and become a very important player and possibly the best player on the team.
10,000 to 1 odds on that one.
most (including me) were scratching our head why Pikiell would recruit Eugene and the fact that Myles would be redshirted led most of us to conclude he was never going to be a huge impact player.
bottom line I make no conclusions any more what a player will end up being. Doesn’t stop me from guessing though
Let me put it in Jim Calhoun/Steve Pikiell recruiting terms. Coach Pike was looking for a Scott Burrell, Donny Marshall, Kevin Freeman, Caron Butler UConn gym rat type player that gets you to the Elite 8/Final 4 and sometimes a National Championship game or win, EO fit that mold 6'7 220 out of HS, bigger now, Mawot Mag fits that mold 6'7 215. He doesn't recruit to rankings, recruit talent and skills to build a Uconn like NC team. You can compare a lot of our roster to UConn players from their best teams in the 90s and 00s
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Why did you think a Myles redshirt meant he wouldn't be an impact player? He was a big man coming off injury working his way back and working on his body. I always thought he would be very good watching his tape with his length and soft hands you could see the skills were there
Because I’m a pessimist. You are an optimistic. Too much so
He's the guy who can get you points without running plays for him
Haha too much being right. I wasn't an optimist watching Eddie Jordan team's play some of the worst defense I've ever seen. Pike just keeps recruiting players who can play so the correct evaluation is to be high on themBecause I’m a pessimist. You are an optimistic. Too much so
And the word from the team and coaches was how well Myles was playing in practiceduring his redshirt year. And how he was getting into good shape, building muscle and dropping the bad weight he gained during his injury the previous year.
I also expected Myles to make a good contribution to the team in his very first year playing.
I believe they said he was the best big man in practice towards the end of the year but didn't want to burn the redshirt